Fancy Getting Sacked in Tolerant, Progressive, Modern Britain?

Ken sayed you was a good writer.

Does he know any other genres iyo?

Yes, he can also compose a "vibrant" novel.

The article quotes him stating the common denominator in most sackings for breach of social media policy:

"When I posted it I did not think much about it"

If you are also stupid enough to post pictures of yourself wearing your employers uniform/logo on social media - then it is not just their social media policy that you will have breached - dismissal pretty much par for the course in such cases.

It's Darwin's Law - survival of the fittest - I feel about as sorry for this bloke as I do for the people that fall off mountains while taking selfies.

What a dishonest society we live in one rule for one and one for another the validators are the real criminals.

It's Darwin's Law - survival of the fittest

WALOS

You can spout your hateful nonsense on here Denzil but once you put your employers uniform on (and I know you have one!), you would have to be pretty thick to carry on spouting it.

So nobody in employment should post anything from comedians in case they offend someone and get dismissed? Hopefully he is in the process of making a claim for unfair dismissal.

He's wearing an Asda uniform!

Maybe you think they spend millions on a Social Media Team, Advertising, Branding, Corporate Social Responsibility, etc and then also employ "Brian from Dewsbury" as their spokesman on religious affairs?

Planted by Tesco?

There are some plants on here today mm!

Do you know, I used to trust the Daily Mail implicitly until Injera recently pointed out it's disingenuity on these very pages?

He's wearing an Asda uniform!



What point are you making? Yes he's wearing an Asda uniform in the posts after his sacking from my reading of the article. What relevance is that?

Shrewd - pop into your HR department at work tomorrow and ask them for a copy of their social media policy. Maybe also ask for a copy of their Standards of Behaviour, Code of Conduct, Employee Handbook, etc.



Then come home and delete all your social media accounts I would imagine!

In other words avoid my question as you don't know what point you are making.

I don't use social media that would identify who I am but having read it I'm pretty confident sharing a quote by BIlly Connolly wouldn't breach it.

Shrewd - If your quote mentioned views on religion, race, sexuality, denigrated your employer, denigrated a competitor, expressed a political view (not an exhaustive list) AND your employer could be identified from your social media account - you would 100% have breached your employers social media policy.

p.s. After they quite legally dismissed you, I wouldn't fancy your chances of winning an appeal, if you were to announce your intention to appeal via the daily mail whilst wearing their uniform!

Can you put a disclaimer on your tweets to make clear they don't represent the views of Asda?

George at Asda texted - he says no.

#everylittlehelps

Or is that Tesco?

#everyLidlhelps

Shrewd - If your quote mentioned views on religion, race, sexuality, denigrated your employer, denigrated a competitor, expressed a political view (not an exhaustive list) AND your employer could be identified from your social media account - you would 100% have breached your employers social media policy.

What a load of nonsense. You must be having a laugh if you think an employment tribunal find unfair dismissal if one day I posted I was enjoying my job at KFC then the next day posted "Corbyn for PM".

p.s. After they quite legally dismissed you, I wouldn't fancy your chances of winning an appeal, if you were to announce your intention to appeal via the daily mail whilst wearing their uniform!

It's not relevant if I'm already dismissed.

*don't find

Prob not get dismissed for that but I expect you would have breached their policy.

If you tweeted your job was finger licking good and then tweeted that all region was a load of fecking shoite etc - you would get dismissed. Brian from Dewsbury that got sacked did the latter.

He didn't tweet religion was a load of fecking ****. He shared a post from someone else which quoted comedian Billy Connolly saying religion was a load of ****. Now we have only Brian's word that that was what happened but if that is what happened then it's not proportionate at all to sack someone for that.

Diversity - where everyone looks different, but thinks the same

I won't trust the story at all until they reproduce the original tweet.

Fair play shrewd dude - The fella has done nothing wrong and is a fine advert for his employer, whilst wearing their uniform, he is projecting to the whole world exactly the kind of image and views that they want the public to associate with their business.

So you are probably right - they will reinstate "Brian from Dewsbury", promote him to Head of Community Liaison Services, also put him in charge of the e-Communications Unit and then take Billy Connolly to court for bringing their brand into disrepute.

Fair play The Management.

What Brian has done is terrible. He deserves to be sacked. He should never share comedic sketches on facebook and in fact should never tell any jokes to anyone (especialy ones from that Neo-nazi Billy Connolly) When he wears his uniform he should act like a robot who only goes straight to work and goes straight back again. He shouldn't pop in to the bookies or the pub in case people think Asda condones drinking and gambling because Asda selling alcohol and lottery ticket is ambigous and isn't  a contradiction . If anyone knows he works in Asda he should never talk about politics, sex, religion or anything like that. Brian should never give any opinions unless he talks to people anonymously.

What about his opinions on Corrie & Eastenders?

Brian looks like an Emmerdale sort of bloke to me MM.

Jun 25, 2019 -- 5:53PM, The Management wrote:

You can spout your hateful nonsense on here Denzil but once you put your employers uniform on (and I know you have one!), you would have to be pretty thick to carry on spouting it.

What hateful nonsense and what employer is this?

The mouse line fwiw:

Eastenders: too diverse
Corrie: not diverse enough

So you're an Emmerdale man.

What about his opinions on Corrie & Eastenders?

Brian got sacked for sharing a quote from Billy Connolly he's not going to cross the minefield of choosing between Corrie and Eastenders.

Is Priya still on she was one of the tidiest bits on TV a while back.

Never watched Emerdale, don't like animals.

Shrewd - stick your company's uniform on, or if you/they don't have a uniform, just hold up a picture of their logo.

You could make that your profile image or you could just scatter your account with references to them being your employer.

Download that same hilarious BC sketch - send it to lots of people that you work with and attach a few - remember to include all the colleagues that practice religions - sit back - wait for the promotion.

Shrewd - stick your company's uniform on, or if you/they don't have a uniform, just hold up a picture of their logo.

You could make that your profile image or you could just scatter your account with references to them being your employer.

Download that same hilarious BC sketch - send it to lots of people that you work with and attach a few Laugh Laugh Laugh- remember to include all the colleagues that practice religions - sit back - wait for the promotion.

I don't know what happened and I have only got one side of the story but If you are trying to suggest that's what he did based on that article then you are a ****g idiot.

Pointless article if they can't reproduce the tweet.

I have summarised it for sure - but I have seen many cases like this one since every half-wit on the planet got access to Social Media. The company involved are a very professional/reputable employer (imo). If Brian wins his appeal - I will eat Paddy Ashdown's (RIP) hat.

People seem to think it's ok to have "Works at xxxxxx" on their profile page (Twitter, FB, etc) and then to post, retweet or like a topic that is (especially in this day and age) likely to offend plenty of people. This might well get dismissed if a colleague customer, member of the public etc complains. You can argue that is wrong if you like - but from a legal perspective, that's how it is!

The Management what hateful nonesense and what employer are you referring to?
What does any of Darwin's theories have to do with this issue?

Aren't you the Morrison's baker?

should have joined a union

Jun 25, 2019 -- 8:30PM, mouse muldoon wrote:

Aren't you the Morrison's baker?

Coincidence have just put my gear on to there

*go

Better sit on your twitter finger.

When I join it'll be an all out assault on the 'betting' industry scumbags haven't got round to it yet.

Trolling Sir Hugh?

Sir Hugh will get a good mention for sure but mostly the lying scum of the industry,I'll also call out the liars who are claiming to be winning betting with bookmakers and show all the multiple standards from those that work in the industry and the protected sports stars and celebs.

Will take a good bit of time up so not at the minute need to be in an aggressive mood.

Johngrace will break you if you hound Sir Hughy off the twitter.

This wasn't a problem a few short decades ago. Where has it all gone wrong?

Jun 25, 2019 -- 8:45PM, mouse muldoon wrote:

Johngrace will break you if you hound Sir Hughy off the twitter.

He'll break altogether when all these tipsters shysters get shown what they are and who/what they're really employed for,think he might struggle PICKING HIS OWN.

Er, no twitter or other social media a few short decades ago?

Brian from Dewsbury didn't have a global platform a few decades ago. Time is relative though, I expect his 50 times great grandfather died after poking a Stegosaurus in the eye.

Same thing - survival of the fittest.

Would never happen to Fred Flintstone.

'Survival of the fittest' - sounds like a veiled threat?

Where's the threat - I'm just saying if you do something incredibly stupid you might lose your job, fall of a mountain or get eaten by a predator at the top of the food chain.

It's 2019, the bloke did something incredibly stupid and he lost his job.

free advertising for ASDA and comes with a halo

these firms aint daft

but from a legal perspective, that's how it is!

Pish.

I expect they will use him in their forthcoming bed linen promotion:

Buy a white blanket and get a free white pillow case that is shaped like a pointed hat?

Are you seriously suggesting a man who shared a post about a BIlly Connoly sketch is akin to a member of the Klu Klux Khan?

Who are these people that filmed this  video of Billy Connolly? The cameramen, producers, director and distributors should all be rounded up and never work again.

The Mangagement looking like a clown on this thread very strange posts must be a wind up.

Yeah that's what I'm suggesting. I wasn't being flippant, Asda will undoubtedly now use him in their adverts. Maybe get him to black-up and do a double act with Howard from the Halifax?

Back to reality - I spent a career negotiating with unions, dealing with tribunals, solicitors, unions, discipline cases, appeals, dismissals, redundancies, NDA's, compromise agreements, settlement agreements, managing risk.

If he posted that sketch and it's apparent from the account that posted it who his employer is and if that employer has a Social Media policy, he is gone. Have you watched the sketch? Do you think any business that has customers wants to be associated with that sketch?

My first post to you (Shrewd dude) pretty much summed up the situatio:

The Management    25 Jun 19 17:59 
He's wearing an Asda uniform!

Maybe you think they spend millions on a Social Media Team, Advertising, Branding, Corporate Social Responsibility, etc and then also employ "Brian from Dewsbury" as their spokesman on religious affairs?

Are you seriously suggesting a man who shared a post about a BIlly Connoly sketch is akin to a member of the Klu Klux Khan?

The Management 25 Jun 19 21:48 Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 870 | Blogger: The Management's blog
Yeah that's what I'm suggesting.

Okay. Maybe I'm being unfair but you sound like an absolute Looneytoon if that is your position.

My first post to you (Shrewd dude) pretty much summed up the situatio:

The Management    25 Jun 19 17:59 
He's wearing an Asda uniform!


And I asked you how that was relevant given the posts were from my reading of the article after he was sacked. You never answered.

He doesn't answer the difficult ones.

When you wear the uniform - you are representing the company.

You can disagree with the policy if you like, but it's pretty standard.

But in your view was he wearing or not wearing the uniform at the time he committed the obscene grievance of sharing a quote from Billy Connolly?

Your 21:53 post - shows you to be a waste of my time - what I actually wrote is an inch above your 21:53 post.
What are you trying to prove with your 21:53 post?

[i]He's wearing an Asda uniform!



What point are you making? Yes he's wearing an Asda uniform in the posts after his sacking from my reading of the article. What relevance is that?[/i]

I posted this on the 1st page. Answer the question if you want to be taken serious.

OK - this case must be different from the dozens of similar ones I have seen the case notes from - Asda have probably gone out on a limb and dismissed him even though none of his social media accounts can identify him as one of their employees.

ffs - It doesn't matter if he's wearing the uniform or not when he made the actual post. If it is apparent in any way shape or form that he is employed by Asda he will have breached their social media policy. So if there is ANY mention of where he works anywhere on his account, or any photo's (EVER) of him in his employers uniform on any of his social media accounts. If he has sent the thing to work colleagues (which he has) he will have breached the social media policy. What they have done with it after he sent it to them will be completely out of his control - they could have done absolutely anything with it!

I would imagine amongst the many allegations for which he has been dismissed there will be ones to the effect of damaging the brand and bringing the reputation of the business into disrepute, misrepresenting the views of the company etc, etc.

I am not sure how he will appeal any of those allegations now that he has sold his story to the gutter press. But please do send me the link when he wins his appeal for wrongful dismissal and I will keep an eye out for it in all the publications that I still subscribe to.

I'm not going to bother reading that. Show some pertinence. It was a simple question.

I've been very patient and civil, if admittedly a little sarcastic - but now I think you just need to change your user name.

You've been civil, I agree but you've refused to answer the question.

If you can't read more than 14 words - suggest you get onto twitter/facebook with Brian from Dewsbury.

There are some funny videos on there - share them with your friends and work colleagues.

That's not very civil. I would try to reiterate my question about him wearing his uniform but I suspect you will never answer it, even if I did.

Probably not the full story in the mail.
As Oscar says about the truth.
If he had been a good employee he’d probably have got off with a warning.

The official line....
An Asda spokesman said: 'We would never comment on individual circumstances.

'However, we do not tolerate any form of discrimination from colleagues or customers and take such behaviour extremely seriously.'

... so if he had been equally offensive to Hindus, Sikhs, Zoroastrians and atheists (non-exhaustive list)?
They’d still have sacked him.

Personally i’d sack anyone who used Facebook.

Would be tough for the forum to decide what to do if the guy was a labour voter who posted some Jewish conspiracy content on his facebook and then some of his Jewish colleagues saw it and complained.

Not sure I agree in general with social media policies for plebs who work on the tills or in general for the lowest level of worker at least, even for dumb racists.

Jun 26, 2019 -- 7:33AM, aaronh wrote:

Would be tough for the forum to decide what to do if the guy was a labour voter who posted some Jewish conspiracy content on his facebook and then some of his Jewish colleagues saw it and complained. Not sure I agree in general with social media policies for plebs who work on the tills or in general for the lowest level of worker at least, even for dumb racists.

aaronh you are a racist you cannot judge people equally and favour non whites

The guy from Asda clearly has no racial issues he can laugh at anyone just like other well balanced people.

When I read the 'survival of the fittest' comment, I took it to mean 'be a good slave and toe the line or you'll be killed'. That's why I asked if it's a veiled threat.

If Asda guy can be legally sacked for something so ridiculous then we should all be worried.