Phil Neville "very angry" Apparently

Great to see a stadium 1/6th full in a knock out match of a world cup as well

I think they deserve all the money they get, all £2.20 of it

Womans Footbal don't make me laugh ffs.

I watched it, what a shambles.

The attempted 'race card' was a dirty but predictable play from the Cameroonians and the BBC pundits (not Mr Neville) were trying to shift the blame onto the referee (Eastern Asian viable target) away from the Cameroonians who didn't even know the rules and were a dirty team.

I think they knew the rules but just decided they weren't for them. Entitled beaches.

I didn't see the match, no tv, but I have just watched the interview and thought he came across very well.  I thought he was brave in this day and age to say what he did.  As he pointed out he could have trotted out all the old platitudes but he didn't.

For the umpteenth time, message to me - get a tv!

I agree about Neville Annie told the truth.

Thank you, Denzil

Why do you think he was pitiful Sonta?

























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The attempted 'race card' was a dirty but predictable play from the Cameroonians and the BBC pundits (not Mr Neville) were trying to shift the blame onto the referee (Eastern Asian viable target) away from the Cameroonians who didn't even know the rules and were a dirty team.

The Ref was utterly terrible. If she had dealt with it properly the first time then it's unllikely they would have kept chancing their arm like they did. She was meant to be the one in charge after all.

Jun 23, 2019 -- 9:07PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:

The attempted 'race card' was a dirty but predictable play from the Cameroonians and the BBC pundits (not Mr Neville) were trying to shift the blame onto the referee (Eastern Asian viable target) away from the Cameroonians who didn't even know the rules and were a dirty team.

Shows what a shambles womens football is though doesn't it

Its below none league standard and some of them don't even know the rules. The standard of goalkeeping is absolutely pathetic as well, the aussie keeper for that last penalty I saw was pitiful

Sorry BBC but you're selling a dead horse here, no one in interested not even the women ffs

When you've got 13-0 scorelines you know its awful

32 teams and there's probably 1 none league standard team amongst them

Jun 23, 2019 -- 9:29PM, akabula wrote:

Why do you think he was pitiful Sonta?+

He's managing women for a start

That tells me he's not the backbone to manage other men

Women should be managing women ffs

don't see how that makes him pitiful but ok

he maybe could have risen above it, praised his players instead of focusing on the opposition

he's right though. spitting, elbowing, bad fouling, protesting. cameroon behaved deplorably

do i think he's a wimp mentally though? yes

does my opinion matter? no

will england win the world cup? probably not

does anyone really care? nooooo

So Annie is Macca Macca or Billy?

I am sorry, terry, I watched the beginning of that clip but it was going to go on for a long time and I thought I would watch it some other time but of course I have lost it now.

Show some respect. He might be on his period.

This one of Terrys conspiracys?

Well I guess there is more to it than meets the eye

Shrewd dude the referee had little chance of controlling that situation especially with Robert Mugabe on the touchline stoking the fire,if she'd started throwing cards around the game mightn't have got finished imo.

DenzilPenberthy • June 23, 2019 10:25 PM BST
Robert Mugabe

Jun 23, 2019 -- 11:07PM, betting_masta wrote:

DenzilPenberthy • June 23, 2019 10:25 PM BSTRobert Mugabe

Was referring to the Cameroon coach who even now can't admit the VAR decisions were right and was telling the players 'the referee wants England to win today'

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/06/23/dont-worry-referee-wants-england-win-today-cameroon-rail-against/

More in that article suggests they weren't going to carry on and they announced on BBC at half time that they were accusing FIFA of racism.

You can only control a match where the teams consent to be controlled and abide by the rules, including the ludicrous VAR decisions).

When one team opts out, then you don't have a game of football, as Phil Neville correctly pointed out.

just an aside to phil and bbc, 6/7 million people with bbc channel on doesn't equate to 6/7 million people tunning in to watch womens football

At least they didn't play the racist card

They should have played the misogynist card along with the racist card.

They missed a trick there. The BBC would've been calling for a rematch

Should have filled the water bottles with Prosecco then had a proper tear up.

cant remember Neville calling keano out for his halland tackle or the battles with the invinvcibles, or cantona jumping into ground,but maybe the womens game in a 3rd world backwater are easier targets,
if var was round in the Fergie/wenger era yesterday would turn out to be tea party in comparisson

Neville is a s*** house that's why, 1tp

That's why he's managing women

Shrewd dude the referee had little chance of controlling that situation especially with Robert Mugabe on the touchline stoking the fire,if she'd started throwing cards around the game mightn't have got finished imo.

Come on, the referee shouldn’t be awarding deserved red cards and penalties because a team might walk off in a huff? Get a grip. The referee was utterly abysmal and was criminally out of her depth in allowing the game to get to that stage.

If the ref had done that SD it would've reaffirmed what they all thought i.e nobody wants us to win,the officials are all against us,FIFA are racist etc. once you go down those roads impossible to predict what might've happened.
As it stands the game got finished and the correct decisions were made via the VAR.

Neville had every right to say what he did! he is supposed to protect his players. The assault on Houghton being a case in point. In Rugby you can cite a player for that type of violence and assault. That is common assault in a court of law!

I remember Emile Heskey being racially abused in Belgrade in an U21 match. Nobody did anything! If he was on my team I would have done any of them off the ball. You don't do that to an Englishman!

and you don't stand by as a team mate gets assaulted and do nothing!

verbally or physically!

No the right decisions weren’t made via VAR. The ref bottled a clear penalty and red card because she didn’t want to upset the Cameroon players. I can’t belive people genuinely condone a referee letting a game get that much out of control because they didn’t want to upset the players more.

All's the ref did was give them a bit of time to calm down when it first kicked off and the red card was virtually the last kick of the game.

All*

What? She let them run riot and behave atrociously as per the reason you started this thread. It doesn’t matter if it’s the last kick of the ball it was the wrong decision not the right one.

Started should mean initial post on this thread.

I don’t think I’ve ever watched any game where a red looked so completely out their depth.

Interesting what PN said about the 'agenda'.

He said they're briefed to be positive in post match interviews to say what a good game it was. He refused to do that and gave the Cameroonies both barrels.

It's sickening that they have to brief managers to lie!!!

To be fair to him he did admit that, injera

And yes it is pathetic, its about time all of them come out and told the truth about what goes on in these "media training lessons" ffs

Isn't it funny how a bloke like Nigel Pearson can't find employment but someone like Alan Pardew keeps getting jobs?

Wouldn't have anything to do with this towing the party line would it?

Jun 24, 2019 -- 4:50PM, Injera wrote:

Interesting what PN said about the 'agenda'.He said they're briefed to be positive in post match interviews to say what a good game it was. He refused to do that and gave the Cameroonies both barrels.It's sickening that they have to brief managers to lie!!!

I heard that too which seems to have been missed (likely on purpose) which adds credibilty to Neville imo.
SD think you're going a bit overboard in unpredictable circumstances nobody knows what would've happened with a firmer approach from the ref.

The media are embarrassing anyone with an ounce of intelligence.
Re the spitting Gabby mentioned 'clearing the throat' and refused to condemn it.

Cameroon were ready to dish it out, and did not want to accept correct decisions.
That is the African way (I lived there years back).  You can get kicked from behind and they call it a tackle.
At the same time the BBC commentary got a little out of line when the England player was pushed off the pitch and fell against the Cameroon manager.
The BBC commentary suggested the England player was assaulted by the Cameroon player (true) and by the Cameroon manager (false).

I think England's play was a little loose, and their next opponents Norway are a very precise team.
England might need to be better organised, and not have bouts of inattention.

I think England's play was a little loose, and their next opponents Norway are a very precise team.
England might need to be better organised, and not have bouts of inattention.

Spot on seemed like they were in danger of conceding in the blink of an eye a few times.

Jun 24, 2019 -- 5:38PM, Injera wrote:

The media are embarrassing anyone with an ounce of intelligence.Re the spitting Gabby mentioned 'clearing the throat' and refused to condemn it.

If it was a bloke we would have been met with Armageddon

Vile

Wonderful to see Cameroon bringing to the feast that special African brand of culturally-enriching vibrancy, for which that continent is rightly famed.

If an Argentinian men's side had behaved like that against an England men's side, they would have rightly been roasted in the media.

spot on, alun

None of these womens national teams would give a non-league team a game

In their final warm up match, tournament favorites USA Women were beaten 5-2 by Dallas Boys Under 15's.

I am fairly certain any non-league side in the UK would beat Dallas Boys U-15's in a canter

That was 2017, BigH

But yeah the point still stands. Even an under 15s side played with them, and womens football wants to be taken seriously

USA are pretty much untouchable in womens football, and even they can't compete with college sides

Strangely they've wiped the result and reports of it off the web

I mean if your going to ram it down peoples throats at least have the good grace to admit its not of a great standard ffs

I assume we wont be seeing anymore womens teams playing under 18s/15s boy sides then, they can just say how great it is without having to bury any negative news

Someone needs to call them out

they would have to start at around level 12 -14  ...i think then their skill and fitness would see them over the line   ,but yes i agree they would be beaten soundly by a side in the National league etc

England womens - appx scores for comparison purposes  - this is how i imagine it
v  Tier 1  (epl) 0-34
V  Tier  2       0-28
v  Tier 3        0-22
V  Tier  4       0-17
v  Tier 5  (nat) 0-14   
v  Tier 6        0-11
7/  0-9
8/  0-8
9/  0-6

10/ 0-4
11/ 0-3
12/ 0-2
13/ 0-1
14/ 0-0

level 14 is around the district leagues  ,usually a village team  but up a few rungs from Sunday  league i believe 

Easy to knock the standard lads obviously but a positive for me is they have a go.
It's something I noticed in Womens Boxing and MMA there are some cracking tear ups where they seem to be trying to prove themselves which is a good thing,instead of the half hearted posers trying to look good and win without a fight or in football taking the huff with the manager and not trying like many of our Premier League pansies.

Hello, Coach.

I hope you are well, sir?

Regarding your hypothetical scenario of a women’s team facing an EPL side, dear chap: I have a hunch that if the men’s team were tasked with winning no holds barred then the match would end early due to injuries and retirements etc.

I've played around Tier 12 and we would easily beat any team at the Women's World Cup. Even at that level most players are fit and strong mixed in with some who could play much higher but would rather play with their mates.

Sorry Crisp you might play Tier 12 Football whatever that is but you obviously don't know much about football. I dare say any schoolboy 1st XL would beat the English Women's team.

they would have to start at around level 12 -14  ...i think then their skill and fitness would see them over the line   ,but yes i agree they would be beaten soundly by a side in the National league etc


Sorry coach but you are deluded too. Any men's National League team would thrash any England Women's team!

I believe any mans pub team would beat them comfortably,the little bits of skill they show is only due to the lack pf pace,amount of space they get, no law saying women cant play in a mans team,whats the lowest level you have to go down to to find a woman playing in a mans team,if a woman could play in a non lg side it would have more kudos than playing in womens lg,
with the size,strength, difference and womens goalkeeping any set piece ,corner would be a very high % end in a goal

absolutely!

Like I said even a schoolboys 1st XL would beat them.

Anyone who seriously thinks they would beat a decent men's team Tier 12 or whatever are complete boo****s imho!

Apologies to crisp! I didn't read your post correctly but you do over estimate how good women footballers are. They would be muller'd by most mens and even boys teams

Not a chance of beating a Sunday league team imo.

Any XL would outnumber them by almost 4 to 1.

its just a different game like a woman cricketer facing an over from Michael holding

you get our looney friend alex scott pinching phrases out of klopps playbook to describe game,full,press,closing down, pressure on the ball etc, when in reality the game she,s talking about has enough space all over the pitch to park double decker buses, ages to take a touch,control the ball etc

ok mouse

Don't get pernickety!

you know what I meant not what I wrote!

In that case I'd just about agree with you. They'd maybe give an average school first XI a run for their money.

many moons ago some oldies might remember a group called the boys brigade, like the scouts,cubs,but age range was 12ish to 16,18, we were towards the lower endand although very good for our age,when we played aside full of the older players even in 35,40 mins ew games, we,d lose 36,48 nil couldn't compete
half decent mens team you,d be looking at agoal a minute

I can just about remember being in the boys brigade many moons ago.

I think you're  wrong   ... the boys teams that the girls lost to were academy sides  .... i have seen /played plenty of local football at  Sunday level and I think the women would win sorry .

  Strength does play a major part i agree   but then wharrabout the Japanese etc ..they're slighltly built   
  and surely passing acc / skill on the ball trumps  'speed' at that level

Hope you're well too Poker and agree the men would play a bit rough maybe just  to make a point no doubt   - what is it with the human race ?

Good for Neville, spoke out when it would have been easier for him to brush it under the carpet. The sort of behavior you would want to see from your leader.