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SontaranStratagem
13 Jun 19 17:14
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Report Angoose June 13, 2019 5:26 PM BST
Two oil tankers have caught fire after being attacked in the Gulf of Oman.

One of them, the Front Altair, was "suspected of being hit by a torpedo", Taiwan's state oil refiner CPC Corp said.

It was "on fire and adrift", according to maritime intelligence firm Dryad Global.

The blaze was caused by an explosion, according to International Tanker Management, which operates the vessel.

The other tanker - Kokuka Courageous - was attacked twice in three hours, the president of Japanese owner Kokuka Sangyo told reporters, and breached above the waterline, igniting a fire in an engine room.

International shipping association BIMCO said the ships may have been damaged by mines.

No country or group has said it was to blame.
Report terry mccann June 13, 2019 7:54 PM BST
"Of course,this latest attack will be blamed on Iran,never mind the stupidity of believing Iran is inviting a war that will kill thousands,possibly millions and probably escalate into game over for life on Earth.

Why do we have to live your lifes waiting for the next false flag, our lives at the mercy of batsh1t crazy bastards like John Bolton,who would like nothing more than a full scale war simply to make the elite more money and more power and to hell with the rest of us.
Report SontaranStratagem June 13, 2019 8:00 PM BST
They've officially blamed Iran and offered absolutely no evidence

Still think Trumps one of you, Trumpies?
Report terry mccann June 13, 2019 8:02 PM BST
No evidence is needed anymoreShocked
Report nellie1970 June 13, 2019 10:38 PM BST
probably an American proxy will be involved somewhere.

Military industrial complex must need some Dollar
Report tobermory June 13, 2019 11:11 PM BST
I don't usually go with conspiracy theories but wouldn't be surprised at a Gulf of Tonkin type event here.
Report nellie1970 June 14, 2019 12:11 PM BST
America release video apparently showing The Iranian guard involved in the oil tanker attacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id-bQqmqlsg
Report GAZO June 14, 2019 12:26 PM BST
surprised they weren't wearing iranian football tops
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 12:26 PM BST
Yeap

All blurred and greyed out so you can't actually see f*** all Crazy

Where's the HD cameras? don't they have them in the military?

Same old s*** different "attack"
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 12:29 PM BST
They aren't fooling anyone with a pair of eyes and a brain between the ears

They've played these same games for 500 years, when they want to get the gullible masses on board for a war, up pops an "attack" from the enemy, and oh look we've got blurred out grainy s****y footage of the so called enemy pulling out bombs from the tanker, no thought for their safety, no idea why they'd want to blow up a cr***y oil tanker anyway like but here it is nonetheless

Now, lets go and bomb them of that CrazyCrazy
Report terry mccann June 14, 2019 12:31 PM BST
Mike baby took zero questions after blaming Iran--pitiful bloody liars, even Sky News  yesterday call it a possible false flag,yes reallyShocked
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 12:32 PM BST
Why would they risk annihilation for the sake of a couple of 100 year old banged up oil tankers?

Its absolutely laughable again from the yanks
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 12:34 PM BST
They have really outdone themselves here

Iran have supposedly risked WW3 for a pair of ships that were not worth using one of your bombs on CrazyCrazy
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 12:35 PM BST
"lets blow up two of our pointless oil tankers, send oil higher in the process, and we can blame it on Iran"

F*** off, America
Report terry mccann June 14, 2019 12:36 PM BST
It was Iran who came to their rescue,thats their involvement
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 12:46 PM BST
Yeah

They supposedly rocked up, climbed up the boat and sneakily took removed an unexploded mine CrazyLaugh

I mean who the f*** is running this show? its not the fact they are trying to orchestrate a war or orchestrate an event to send oil prices rocketing, its the shoddy way in which its done, no respect for the people at all.

The cost at the pumps to go up though so its job done
Report terry mccann June 14, 2019 12:59 PM BST
If they can get away with 9/11 they must think they can get anyway with anything, and they are possible rightScared
Report Richie_Burnett June 14, 2019 1:00 PM BST
Imagine if that was your job: removing unexploded mines from shipsCry
Report john92 June 14, 2019 1:58 PM BST
Iran shouldn't have put their country in the middle of all those American military bases or proposed selling their own resources in whatever currency they want. They are asking to be Gulf of Tonkined.
Report twonky June 14, 2019 2:15 PM BST
The father of The Doors frontman, Jim Morrison, was the captain of the American warship at Tonkin..
Report Emitdeb June 14, 2019 4:19 PM BST
Leave this sht to the Americans... Else we'll all be paying £2 a litre for petrol... Sooner they invade the better. imo.
Report dave1357 June 14, 2019 4:25 PM BST
rofl what price do you think oil will be if the US and Iran go to war?  You think that anything is getting out of the gulf?
Report terry mccann June 14, 2019 5:27 PM BST
One of the few left that does not central bank do biz there so what a wonderful opportunity for the elite to move inWhoops
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 6:16 PM BST
Emitdeb

Fuel will go through the roof if America "retaliate", this is why they pull something just so that happens

The economy is dead, the stocks are propped up by paper, so they need to something to hide all that

More people are homeless, more people are using food banks etc etc etc
Report DenzilPenberthy June 14, 2019 6:37 PM BST
Could this be another one of them US set up jobs or is it legit (haven't seen the footage).
Report edy June 14, 2019 7:11 PM BST

Jun 13, 2019 -- 8:00PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


They've officially blamed Iran and offered absolutely no evidence Still think Trumps one of you, Trumpies?


To be fair to Trump, I legitimately think he doesn't want to go to war with Iran (or any other country). In his quest to mindlessly dismantle everything Obama, he has however set himself up for Bolton, Pompeo, or actors in the area interested in regime change like Netanyahu, bin Salman to lure the inexperienced man into a violent conflict.

Report Emitdeb June 14, 2019 7:18 PM BST
Trumps struggling in the polls, a good bombing'll put that right....
Report SontaranStratagem June 14, 2019 7:25 PM BST

Jun 14, 2019 -- 7:11PM, edy wrote:


Jun 13, 2019 --  8:00PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:They've officially blamed Iran and offered absolutely no evidence Still think Trumps one of you, Trumpies?To be fair to Trump, I legitimately think he doesn't want to go to war with Iran (or any other country). In his quest to mindlessly dismantle everything Obama, he has however set himself up for Bolton, Pompeo, or actors in the area interested in regime change like Netanyahu, bin Salman to lure the inexperienced man into a violent conflict.


Lame

He's the president so can fire them?
He's suppose to be his own man and isn't swayed by others?

But he's happy enough to go to war?

Report nellie1970 June 14, 2019 7:28 PM BST
Netanyahu  could be the one to get to egg on Trump seems he may be losing his grip on Israel.His wife took a plea deal on Wednesday pleading guilty in a case concerning illegally ordered meals at the Prime Ministers residence.

with corruption charges looming and another election in September he may just get his friend the clown in the White House to go to war with Iran as a going away present
Report mouse muldoon June 14, 2019 7:32 PM BST
Has he consulted the Prince of Whales yet?
Report mouse muldoon June 14, 2019 7:33 PM BST
He could send a couple of humpbacks to escort the stricken vessels.
Report edy June 14, 2019 7:34 PM BST
He'll only be consulted when it's time to call the lapdog into joining a war.
Report DenzilPenberthy June 14, 2019 7:53 PM BST
Has he consulted the Prince of Wales yet?

Corrected version
Report DenzilPenberthy June 14, 2019 7:58 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-48622001
Report nellie1970 June 14, 2019 9:38 PM BST
owner of of one of the tankers says that the crew saw flying objects before the attack suggesting the tanker was not damaged by mines

according to the Americans that a drone saw an Iranian boat going towards a tanker shortly before the attack and that the Iranians fired a ballistic missile at the drone but it missed

a few days earlier an American drone was shot down by Iranian backed Houthis into the RED SEA

CNN Pentagon reporter Barbara Starr just breaking the news
Report themightymac June 14, 2019 10:19 PM BST
They must think we came up the Clyde in a banana boat.

... mind you most Americans are daft enough to believe anything.

They know sfa about the world. Probably think Iran is in Denmark.

How dumb can you be?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_pw8duzGUg
Report themightymac June 14, 2019 10:22 PM BST
The link above is when Jay Leno tests the geographical knowledge of college students, yes believe it or not. Make some know alls on here look like Einstein. LaughLaugh
Report themightymac June 14, 2019 10:33 PM BST
Iran has been on their hit list for years, along with Iraq and Libya.
Report DenzilPenberthy June 14, 2019 10:33 PM BST

Jun 14, 2019 -- 10:22PM, themightymac wrote:


The link above is when Jay Leno tests the geographical knowledge of college students, yes believe it or not. Make some know alls on here look like Einstein.


'Imagination is more important than knowledge'
'Two things are infinite:The Universe and human stupidity;and I'm not sure about the Universe'.
Albert Einstein world famous genius and scientist

'The deluded are unaffected'
DenzilPenberthy Betfair forum 'know sod all'

Report detraveller June 15, 2019 11:36 AM BST
So you lie about airphones and I get the nick?
can i be the head of department though?
Report mecca June 15, 2019 12:21 PM BST
Corbyn questioning the US version of this will appeal to the electorate
Report the old nanny ;-) June 15, 2019 2:29 PM BST
There have been explosions galore in the area the past 4 weeks , inccluding at facilities inside Iran ,who knows whats going on very little being reporting .
Report twonky June 15, 2019 9:49 PM BST
Best not mention the country that can't be blamed for anything
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Report onlooker June 16, 2019 2:05 AM BST
That gormless Communist - euphemism for **** - Corbyn - claims that Iran may not be responsible

What a TOTAL TAWT he is showing himself to be.
Report aaronh June 16, 2019 9:27 AM BST
some fantasists also claiming America wasn't telling the truth the last time they were itching for war
Report detraveller June 16, 2019 12:04 PM BST
People believe what they are told by the media, as long as the events happening are far away from home. The same people whine all day complaining how the media works on an agenda in their own country.
Report terry mccann June 16, 2019 12:07 PM BST
Whats there not to believe if the Americans say soLaugh So real clowns out there
Report terry mccann June 16, 2019 12:15 PM BST
Im no supporter of Corbin,but I can understand why there is an agenda out to get him, he asks too many questions unlike the fully paid out Tory scum
Report mouse muldoon June 16, 2019 2:21 PM BST
I a agree with Terry.
Report mouse muldoon June 16, 2019 2:22 PM BST
I agree with Terry.
Report terry mccann June 16, 2019 2:26 PM BST
Laugh Is that a good thing Mouse?
Report mouse muldoon June 16, 2019 2:31 PM BST
Yes, although I'm sure people were expecting me to preface the post with "I never thought I'd say this but", so I didn't.
Report john92 June 16, 2019 2:45 PM BST
"Gormless", "tawt" or educated?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6LKmhDRWF

This is how things work
Report terry mccann June 16, 2019 2:47 PM BST
Mouse,we got the tote double upGrin
Report mecca June 17, 2019 11:34 AM BST
It will be quite interesting to see how the MSM handle this. How do they go from continually slagging off Trump... to having to get behind everything he does if a major conflict does break out
Report John.W.Henry. June 17, 2019 11:38 AM BST
https://uk.video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-aztec-default&hsimp=yhs-default&hspart=aztec&p=PNAC#id=4&vid=91f602dc7b51c14238452908d28ab208&action=click


Watch it if you want or don't bother. Matters not to me as I already know Grin

To comprehend what is happening in the present you have to understand the past and there4 get a handle on what the future might bring.

Enjoy your day
Report aaronh June 17, 2019 12:44 PM BST

Jun 17, 2019 -- 11:34AM, mecca wrote:


It will be quite interesting to see how the MSM handle this. How do they go from continually slagging off Trump... to having to get behind everything he does if a major conflict does break out


Will be quite easy for them to get war hungry again

Report SontaranStratagem June 17, 2019 12:46 PM BST
Its going to be a fun flip from them

He's a scum bag

Oh no its war so we love him now

Can't wait
Report aaronh June 17, 2019 1:01 PM BST
EU foreign ministers remained unconvinced by US allegations that Iran was behind last week’s attack on two Gulf tankers, as they arrived at a meeting on Monday.

There was strong support among EU countries for an independent UN investigation and calls for more evidence – with the UK relatively isolated in its support the Trump administration’s line.

One foreign minister invoked the spectre of US misuse of intelligence over Iraq as a reason for scepticism, as representatives of the 28 countries arrived at the council meeting.

The ministers will discuss the incident in the Gulf of Oman over lunch, with Sudan, trade policy with Cuba, and the situation in Venezuela also on the main agenda.

Heiko Maas, the German foreign minister, said the EU states “continue to gather information” while Dutch foreign minister Stef Blok said the Netherlands was “interested in any clarifications that can be made available”.


Iran threatens to break uranium limit to prevent bomb in '10 days'

Trump’s ‘evidence’ of Iran’s role in the Gulf attacks is dodgy

Iran summons UK envoy as tensions rise over Gulf of Oman attack

Corbyn calls for ‘credible evidence’ over claim of Iran tanker attack
“We know the findings of the American and the British intelligence services, which assume that you can be almost certain. We are comparing this with our information. I think you have to proceed very, very carefully on this,” Mr Maas said.

Jean Asselborn, Luxembourg’s foreign minister, said: “I believe that the main task of foreign ministers is to avoid war. We have to do that today.”

He added: “I’m convinced, as I was 16 years ago, that you really shouldn’t make the mistake of believing that you can solve a problem in the Middle East with weapons.”

His Finnish counterpart Pekka Haavisto said it was important that EU states have “the full evidence” before reaching any conclusion.

“I support very much the line of the UN Secretary General Mr Guterres, that a proper investigation [to put] all the facts on the table and then we can look what really has happened, who is behind this,” he said.

“I think it’s a very very concerning event but let’s have all the details first.”


interesting
Report aaronh June 18, 2019 8:13 AM BST
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1140508243401293824?s=19

Imagine having the confidence to write and publish the 2019 piece after your 2002 one
Report John.W.Henry. June 20, 2019 6:52 AM BST
4 Times the US Threatened to Stage an Attack and Blame it on Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhqLaYBtvXA&feature=youtu.be

Make up your own mind Grin
Report John.W.Henry. June 20, 2019 6:52 AM BST
4 Times the US Threatened to Stage an Attack and Blame it on Iran


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhqLaYBtvXA&feature=youtu.be

Make up your own mind Grin
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