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05 Jun 19 19:33
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wtf

how is that legal Shocked

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By:
tobermory
When: 05 Jun 19 19:35
Noa Pothoven, who was sexually assaulted and raped as a young child, has been legally euthanised at her home after medical experts agreed her suffering had become “unbearable”. The 17-year-old, died in an “end-of-life clinic” bed in her living room in the Netherlands after battling mental health problems for years, The Independent reported.

The teenager, from Arnhem, was granted the right to end her own life after sexual assaults and rapes as a young girl led her to develop post-traumatic stress disorder, depression and anorexia.

She was attacked three times as a youngster, the first two being when she went to children’s parties at age 11 and 12. She was then raped by two men when she was 14 in the Elderveld neighbourhood of the city. Pothoven never revealed the horrific abuse because she felt ashamed, until last year when she reported the attacks to police saying she hoped the men who raped her will one day be arrested.

She told the Gelderlander in December last year that she initially contacted the Life End Clinic in The Hague without telling her loved ones. “Out of fear and shame, I relive the fear, that pain every day. Always scared, always on my guard. And to this day my body still feels dirty,” she said. “My house has been broken into, my body, that can never be undone.”

The day before she died, she posted a message on Instagram revealing her decision to die.

“I deliberated for quite a while whether or not I should share this, but decided to do it anyway,” she wrote. “Maybe this comes as a surprise to some, given my posts about hospitalisation, but my plan has been there for a long time and is not impulsive. “I will get straight to the point: within a maximum of 10 days I will die.”

She explained that she made the difficult decision after “battling” mental anguish for most of her life. “After years of battling and fighting, I am drained. I have quit eating and drinking for a while now, and after many discussions and evaluations, it was decided to let me go because my suffering is unbearable.” She added that while she was “alive” she felt as if she was merely surviving, writing: “I breathe, but I no longer live.”

She asked her friends to “not convince me that this is not good, this is my decision and it is final. “Love is letting go, in this case.”
By:
bluebook
When: 05 Jun 19 19:43
Saw that earlier.

Very, very sad.
By:
MC Roller
When: 05 Jun 19 19:54
Poor girl. I agree with her decision, because no one gives a shitt anymore, it really is a horrible World.
By:
themightymac
When: 05 Jun 19 19:55
Poor girl. Very sad.
By:
themightymac
When: 05 Jun 19 19:56
The human race stinks.
By:
Injera
When: 05 Jun 19 20:00
Can of worms...
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Jun 19 20:04
I saw that story and I was amazed at how ****ed up it is. Are the seriously saying that they can't offer psychiatric help to help her come to terms with this?
That by the time she was in her 20s, with the coping skills of an adult and help from psychiatrists, she might well have had a decent quality of life?

It's disgusting imho. They allow kids to be euthanised from the age of 12 up, and their parents don't even need to agree once they hit 16!

Surely this is for terminal conditions like cancer or degenerative disease victims and so on. I can't get my head round this.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 20:09
Surely someone could have helped her

Other women do experience these horrific sorts of sexual assaults as children...and come through

But then maybe not, she seems to have been in this state for years, and sexual problems can often be the most difficult to deal with

r.i.p

I knew of two young men who committed suicide, because of some sort of sexual problems, they had suffered for years

seems a waste.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 20:13
I understand how you feel just checking


But one of those young men, I had never seen anyone so distressed, he walked out of hospital and did it, jumping


Also knew a female who was in a state for years, she was in her twenties though, no one could reach her
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 20:17
Karen Carpenter a famous singer, one of the Carpenters, did it when I was young, in her early thirties, such a waste


But it had gone on for many years
By:
Just Checking
When: 05 Jun 19 20:18
Carpented died of anorexia not suicide didn't she? But we digress.
By:
snowynoon
When: 05 Jun 19 20:19
Very strange that they allow this,i agree,a tragic story ,and a waste of her life.
By:
MC Roller
When: 05 Jun 19 20:21
I read a story a while back, where another troubled soul killed herself in a rehabilitation clinic. As I said, no one cares.

There's a program tonight called crisis in care. I think I'll give it a miss. They'll go on about we have to do this and that to improve things but in years to come they'll still be repeating the same drivel and continue to do nothing. Give people the respect they deserve you heartless *****. The old and vulnerable are treated like pieces of dirt and it simply has to stop.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 21:08
You are right Just Checking Karen Carpenter died from the effects of anorexia, I need to learn to check myself, oh well
By:
tobermory
When: 05 Jun 19 21:08
Surely this is for terminal conditions like cancer or degenerative disease victims and so on. I can't get my head round this.

Yeah, when I saw the headline I thought she must be paralyzed, in constant pain or terminally ill.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 21:15
Well she was in mental pain, I am a bit surprised myself they euthanised her


I had my previous cat euthanised after he lost his sight after being hit by a car, I tried to keep him alive,


but he was an Alpha cat, he could not cope with not seeing, I took it for two days then had him euthanised.


But all people cope with loss of sight, some must have committed suicide, but to euthanise oneself for depression??????


and they did it!
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 21:16
sb not all people
By:
Culvin
When: 05 Jun 19 21:18
I just cannot believe this , I just cannot Fu .King. believe it .
That , poor , poor girl .
A person of such age should not have been allowed to make such a decision .
I personally feel that no matter how much emotional damage a
person has suffered in their life , that damage can be repaired .Not
totally , but certainly to the extent that a person can go on
to have a life . A life worth living .
I feel angry and upset by this .
That is fu.ke.d up .
CrySad
By:
Hank Hill
When: 05 Jun 19 21:22
Apparently it was not assisted death:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/05/noa-pothoven-netherlands-girl-not-legally-euthanised-died-at-home
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 21:30
anorexia...she starved herself to death...still very sad
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 05 Jun 19 21:39
Very sad but it seems the reports are false and she died of anorexia not euthanasia (which was denied)
By:
superjudge
When: 05 Jun 19 22:05
that is one of the saddest things i have ever read. rip young lady.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 05 Jun 19 22:09
people with mental health issues, just can't do that,they are irrational.

Of course they can't Twonky, because they are mentally ill
By:
Aspro
When: 05 Jun 19 22:17
My jaw dropped seeing just the headline of this thread

This is as Sad as it gets
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 05 Jun 19 22:17
I think you lack empathy if you see her as attention seeking and selfish twonky
By:
akabula
When: 05 Jun 19 22:17
An incredibly sad story but questions must be asked of those who came to this decision.
Any normal human being would surely have sought other options rather than this.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 05 Jun 19 22:24
reports suggest intial reports were wrong akabula.  Fresh reports say she died of anorexia and that euthanasia was refused
By:
akabula
When: 05 Jun 19 22:28
Sorry CB I somehow missed your earlier post.
By:
superjudge
When: 05 Jun 19 23:12
twonky you know what you are mate. a fecking idiot.
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