Are some cases of acne untreatable?

I would have thought so lybertyne..it used to be quite common when I was younger but is rarely seen nowadays

I have very bad acne when I was a teenager, nothing seemed to work

In the end the Doctor told me to scrub my face very hard each night with hot water and soap. The sink would be filled with blood.


It worked, but left me with lots of scarring pits over my face. I later had dermabrasion which removed the worst of the scarring.

When I had to scrub my face I was told to use a scrubbing brush, bit painful to begin with but I soon got used to it.

It cleared the acne.

The cause is hormonal the oily skin,bacteria and blocked pores are a symptom,best advice initially would be to drop ALL dairy/meat/eggs and dietary fats from your diet give it a month and see what happens,odds on huge improvements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ruli7d270U

I still get spots and I'm 30

I think stress can play a part also

Common complaints such as acne that have plagued modern communities for over a century, are a sad reflection on the medical profession.
And despite the money that's gone into research and science, most GPs might as well be living in the dark ages as far as curing them are concerned.   

A doctor walks through his front door after work  ''Hi honey I'm home''

''Oh there you are darling - what did you cure today?''

''F'all as usual'' came the reply.

Definitely he's in a tight squeeze. Will just have to bite down hard and stop milking it.

Acne is strange in the modern world. Both my sister and I suffered from it and as previously mentioned, we both suffered from scarring, which I've learned to live with. The strange thing is that neither or our parents suffered AT ALL with acne. Perhaps it is diet based.

The answer to the OPs question is yes. The most potent treatment is Roaccutane. When I went on the course, the GP was not allowed to prescribe it and you had to get referred to a dermatologist. It took an immense amount of effort for my GP to refer me. Then you had to have regular blood tests as Roaccutane can be very harmful to the liver, in fact I was taken off Roaccutane because it started to affect my liver. I was informed that it is a milder form of chemotherapy. Fortunately, as soon as I stopped taking Roaccutane the acne all but disappeared overnight. I was lucky that I didn't get any acne on my face, and only got it badly as an early adult. An incredibly painful and depressing condition, my heart goes out to anyone who suffers from it badly as the mental affects are as hard to cope with as the physical ones.

Yes Aspro, as Denzil has already stated it's diet related.

But there's no drugs involved in treating illnesses through food exclusion, so the powers that be will not even consider this approach.
In fact they'll do their best to put down any suggestion that it is food related, and if the proof is put in front of them they simply acknowledge the evidence, then ignore it and carry on prescribing their their creams and pills.

I'd be a little surprised if it proved completely intractable, but then I'm no skin specialist.

I had very bad acne as a teenager and had to take antibiotics, and slather my face in a chalky-looking liquid each night, to get rid of it. The liquid used to  dry the skin up something awful, but it had to be done.

The antibiotics were taken off the market a couple of years after I'd stopped taking them because teenagers were suddenly getting depressed on them and killing themselves... .

Mine was purely hormonal, I think, although my skin did flare up again some years later as a result of grief. That time the doc' said it was a bacterial infection, so not strictly speaking the same thing, maybe.

Whatever the case, it's bloody horrible and hurts a lot.

When you look at old photos or images of people in the 60's, 50's and before, you never really see anyone with bad skin conditions, people in general appeared to be slimmer too, then the 1970's came and so did the invetion of high fructose corn syrup which was more cheaply produced, maintained freshness and colour and was a dream for manufacturers as it meant lower costs for them and the consumer, the consumer of course becomes hooked on sugar and so does every successive generation til this day, the problem being, over two thirds of all foods consumed in a typical western diet contains HFCS, hence the rise and rise of cancers, diabetes and all sorts of other diseases that were not common pre 1970's. And because of it's ability to produce longer sell by dates in foods they started to add high fructose corn syrup to other foods that you wouldn't normally associate with sugar.

When people began to shine a light on HFCS and it's negative impact on health, they fought for a while to make it seem as if it was harmless, eventually they gave up and somehow managed to convince the powers that be that they should be allowed to have high fructose corn syrup listed on products as just fructose, a complete scandal as fructose is found naturally in fruits and veg digested with other nutrients whilst HFCS is a manufactured sweetner that goes through processes to ensure you become addicted to it.

I endorse the opinions about changing your diet to help with acne, you need to fight the condition from the inside out as well as outside in, but outside in for me doesn't include tablets, I would go recommend diluting apple cider vinegar (organic) with water and using cotton wool to dab it on to your face, when you dilute it with water, make sure it's 50:50 and don't hold it there, if it's pings too much then add a bit more water.

I use to ask my grandma if any of her family suffered from acne back in the day and she had no idea what I meant

Spots she knew about but they only suffered one or two and they quickly cleared up, so its not passed on like some say, it must be the modern day stuff we use like soap/food etc

Its horrible, I get outbreaks around my nose and its sore

Its defiantly the s*** they put in our stuff, they'll claim its not but when their making millions in cr***y creams and pills they aren't going to tell you the truth

Same with Cancer

They can make a computer send a message on here? but they can't clear up some spots on the skin?

Blowtorch and blotting paper usually does the trick

One day they will develop a pill to cure acne.

Blowtorch Knight Commander

I've had mild acne for years.  Although I've had it for years I never had any scarring.  Mine is diet related but I think that is unusual.  Drinking plenty of water, eating plenty of fish and generally avoiding gluten and coffee works for me.  I've gone gluten and coffee free before and that would get rid of the acne altogether for a period and then my body would readjust and the acne would come back.  It seems to work better long term keeping them to a minimum.

Anyone suffering should see their doctor, there's more help these days. And ask to try benzoyl peroxide cream, which really can be a miracle worker. Or you can still get it on Amazon I think, though I haven't needed to buy any lately. Just a thin layer is needed at 0.05% strength. It gets rid of bacteria that clog the pores which is the main problem, though I find it's best to avoid a lot of fat in the diet as it can be a trigger, and try to keep your hands off your face. I didn't discover this till my 40s - had tried everything else, antibiotics, tea tree oil, even Roaccutane and this is this only thing that has worked for good. Maybe slip your dentist a tube..

Don't listen to all the bollox on here. Just pop 'em and live with the scars. Simples.

Benzoyl peroxide is available freely over the counter, and is like napalm for acne bacteria.

Who was that snooker player with acne they had squeezing his zits and potting balls with the discharge? 
So funny.
On children in need I think.

https://www.drmcdougall.com/health/education/health-science/stars/stars-video/nina-randa/

The proof of the pudding, and these two were vegans.

Jun 6, 2019 -- 3:52AM, Misti wrote:

Anyone suffering should see their doctor, there's more help these days. And ask to try benzoyl peroxide cream, which really can be a miracle worker. Or you can still get it on Amazon I think, though I haven't needed to buy any lately. Just a thin layer is needed at 0.05% strength. It gets rid of bacteria that clog the pores which is the main problem, though I find it's best to avoid a lot of fat in the diet as it can be a trigger, and try to keep your hands off your face. I didn't discover this till my 40s - had tried everything else, antibiotics, tea tree oil, even Roaccutane and this is this only thing that has worked for good. Maybe slip your dentist a tube..

I used Quinoderm a few years ago and it kept them at bay almost, would only get 1 or 2, sadly it was banned in this country and there's nothing else that works when it comes to creams

I've gotten fed up of spending money on them anyway, I cannot be bothered to care about them spent all my teens and early to mid 20s worrying about them, I'm all worried out to be honest and it is what it is.

Don't give up SontaranStratagem. There's Oxy10 cream on ebay, only £5.98, with the benzoyl peroxide in, so it's worth a shot as it's so cheap. Look at the reviews, which are positive. I bought Oxy5 a few years ago and it cleared the acne very quickly. They don't seem to have that at the moment but the Oxy10 is just as good, though you have to use it very sparingly. I got my son onto it too, as he had bad acne on his back as well as nose and chin and he said he wished he found it years ago it's so effective. A doctor would prescribe it, but buying it online is cheaper, given the cost of prescriptions, and quicker.

Good post from darren_discombobulates_sports, about HFCS (0high fructose corn syrup.)
And its possible implications in this easily curable complaint.

A word about the addictive nature of this ubiquitous sweetener, which very likely accounts for the obesity epidemic we are seeing.

As someone who generally avoids eating stuff with added sugar, I can only say that if I ever do eat a cake or a biscuit I have to eat the whole packet once I start, and then I keep thinking about them for days afterwards.
But once the cravings have ended I never think about them again.

Yet when I eat a piece of toast with honey which contains natural fructose, there are no cravings at all.

Of course, should the message finally get around that HFCS is addictive, and is implicated in the huge numbers of overweight people around. Then the manufacturers of this sweetener would sponsor a study to prove one way or another that it was not addictive.

In much the same way that they manage to impose drugs on us, which have to be withdrawn when their claims of them being safe to use were clearly untrue.

loads of bull plop on this thread.

Gotcha!

That was a brief visit from STUDYFORM.

Something seems to have scared him off.

STUDYFORM and health issues are a bad combo cost me several weeks of lifetime last go,won't be getting that back.

FWIW our watered down version of HFCS Glucose Corn Syrup is similarly addictive I'm eating quite a few giant strawbs at the moment but almost zero fat so not all bad,but combined with processed rubbish and fat as many do a health catastrophe.

Obviously I can't say anything to him, even if it's helpful advice, as he has permission to poke around my mouth with sharp metal objects and as such I don't wish to upset him.

It's astonishing the faith people put in GPs considering the recklessness in which they dole out dangerous drugs to all comers. 

The accounts from Cider and bluebook above are just the tip of the iceberg.

If GPs can be so wrong, they why is their drug taking culture accepted so readily by the public, over the opinions of doctors every bit as qualified when they challenge this practice of treating the symptoms and ignoring the cause?   

The answer is quite simple, credibility and convenience. My doctor knows best, and if I can manage my illness simply by taking a pill then all well and good.

So any cure that requires a degree of effort or abstinence is immediately shunned.
And of course ker-ching for the drug companies as well.

I think it's down to being unlucky with your genes, as it can run in families. Certain foods can exacerbate acne, but if it was wholly diet based the many overweight/obese people on poor diets would surely have it, but they don't. In fact, most have smooth skins.

Jun 9, 2019 -- 8:50AM, Misti wrote:

I think it's down to being unlucky with your genes, as it can run in families. Certain foods can exacerbate acne, but if it was wholly diet based the many overweight/obese people on poor diets would surely have it, but they don't. In fact, most have smooth skins.

The issue is hormonal which is largely genetic but can be seriously affected by foods fats in particular that produce testosterone,insulin like growth factor and androgens.
Alot of these overweight/obese people will be hormonally subnormal and likely have a high estrogen/cortisol to testosterone ratio which lessens the effects of male hormones which means they are less likely to be affected despite what they shove down their necks.

if it was wholly diet based the many overweight/obese people on poor diets would surely have it,

Absolutely not.
And for the same reason most fat people don't suffer from food allergies or gout and many more common complaints which are diet related.

You obviously did not open the link I supplied.