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portmanpark
25 May 19 09:49
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The c*** smokes 40 **** a day?????????
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Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 10:18 AM BST
It's quite surprising how people in his position let themselves go in the first place.
Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 10:21 AM BST
Although we're taught to eat a balanced diet so it's no wonder most people are too fat.

The cigarettes will kill him, he must be very unhappy if it that doesn't bother him.
Report Aspro May 25, 2019 10:56 AM BST
I'm told that my ideal weight should be 12.5 stone. I'm currently a little over 16 (was 17) and I accept that I'm overweight, however; at 12.5 I look ill and old! When I hit around the 14 stone mark I was told by others that I looked well and healthy. Why would I want to lose weight to be within BMI when it makes me look so bad?

Over to you Dr C
Report portmanpark May 25, 2019 12:37 PM BST
aspro.........you will probably live longer at your correct weight
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 12:41 PM BST
When does his vegan diet business products hit the supermarket shelves?
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 12:42 PM BST
...... or is he just getting a % cut on products sold by the company?
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 12:45 PM BST
I honestly admire him. Shrewd businessman who has made millions from life`s thickos.

Loves his racing and occasionally posts on the forum but I forget his nom de plume. Confused
Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 12:46 PM BST
Why would I want to lose weight to be within BMI when it makes me look so bad?

That's fine Aspro, be sure to leave instructions for a mirror to be packed in your coffin.
Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 12:49 PM BST
The fat on your face smooths out the wrinkles, that's what makes you look young when you're overweight.
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 12:51 PM BST
When one loses weight, why does it normally come off the face first? Never understood that.
Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 1:02 PM BST
Nature gives us the ability to put on fat for the day when there's no food to be had.
The trouble is that day never comes, so we carry the fat around with us.

Imagine carrying two to three stone of food around with you in a holdall, in case you run out.

No wonder slim people have usually got spring in their steps.
Report casemoney May 25, 2019 1:06 PM BST
He has about a stone of Botox in his head ..
Report Just Checking May 25, 2019 1:15 PM BST
Fairly sure your body likes to keep fat where its most useful and surrounding your organs so they don't get cold, having in a place that doesn't affect movement is a better place than away from organs on extremities that will affect movement? So it'll burn the crap fat first. Older peoples skin gets "thinner" with I think less fat under it, which is why you see collagen vitamin supplements to try and thicken the tissue up. Women tend to store fat lower down and more in their legs and arse and under their skin, men it tends to be higher up in the body, but as the visceral fat where men store it is bad for heart disease etc thats why fat men tend to have heart attacks more often.

What is also interesting but I only found out recently is just how much more fat women store than men to be healhy, it's like double the % body weight. A woman at the same % body weight as a man might look fantastically fit but the man quite podgy, if a woman go her body weight % to that of a "ripped" man she'd be unhealthy and
ill.

Of course if a man wants to prevent heart disease he can just SAY he's a woman and biology will revert all the above, and anyone who denies this is trasngenderist fascist who can expect to be kicked off off twitter for hate speech, and fired from their job.
Report Aspro May 25, 2019 1:19 PM BST
There are those that dispute that BMI is accurate. I would rather look fit and healthy than gaunt and old, even if it does strip a year or two off my life expectancy.

At present I'm trying to lose weight with circa 13.5-14.5 being my own personal target... but I take your point.
Report Aspro May 25, 2019 1:22 PM BST
I also think the OP has a great point. No matter how healthy Cowell eats one thing is guaranteed... COPD will hit him eventually, if not worse.
Report Just Checking May 25, 2019 1:33 PM BST
"There are those that dispute that BMI is accurate."
Including the guy who invented the damned thing, AFAIK he said when he came up with it not to misuse it, it's totally misused.
A fit strong athletic guy with a fair bit of muscle and a big frame with broad shoulders could be rated as pretty much obsese when he's got very low body fat and healthy as you like, but a thin framed guy with little muscle who never exercises could be obviously carrying bad fat and be rated as healhy.

It's by definition a flawed system. It's calculated linearly. Your weight will not go up linearly with height as you are not something to be modelled as a cylinder of fixed radius being extended along its axis, you are to some extent spherical. To the mathematically / engineering / science inclined that alone must be another huge alarm bell. There is a NEW bmi calculator that tries to do it in a more complicated but more accurate manner.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9816596/Interactive-calculator-do-you-win-or-lose-with-the-new-BMI.html

But it still doesn't fix the "muscular athlete vs beer bellied scrawny alcholic" issue.
Report Just Checking May 25, 2019 1:37 PM BST
(BTW "beer bellied" isn't just an old wives tale, alcohol DOES cause you do deposit fat in a different way / place on your body).
Report Mexico May 25, 2019 1:41 PM BST
Aspro

Assuming you are about 6 foot 3 then 12.5 stone is pretty much bang in the middle of "healthy " according to this BBC calculator.
14 stone still is just about in their "healthy " zone.

So doubt there will be too many major health risks being over your "ideal" weight.

Of course if you are actually 4foot tall then 14 stone is not that great.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-43697948
Report Aspro May 25, 2019 1:46 PM BST
5ft 10.5in Mex

Just checked out JC's link. Yes, I'm currently considered obese under the new system but still lower than the old BMI

At 13.5 stone (best target weight) I am fractionally above normal on overweight, but still not obese at the higher target (14.5)… interesting
Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 1:49 PM BST
Throw your weighing scales in the bin.

Take off your clothes, stand in front of the mirror and relax.

If you can't see your ribs you're carrying extra weight.
Report Aspro May 25, 2019 1:50 PM BST
... or your d!ck Grin
Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 1:54 PM BST
lol.
Report Just Checking May 25, 2019 2:01 PM BST
PS I'll correct myself as I made a feck up there. Stephen Hawking just mailed me to laugh, and I'm very embarrassed BlushBlushWink.
It's not calculated linearly as I said but also it wasn't calculated to model your growth in 3 dimensions so the new system attempts to fix that. If you very simply think of say your body as a sphere and increase its radius, the forumla is  .... 4/3 * PI * diameter^3, the important bit being it's diameter cubed as it's 3D. Your body isn't a sphere but it's certainly 3D so you can see why doing a half way house (the new forumla is to ^ 2.5) helps the maths.

I'd imagine if you had the build of the stay puft marshmallow man, using a cube would be the correct thing to do Laugh.
Report Just Checking May 25, 2019 6:17 PM BST
I just thought "well who is an athletic famous actor, what's their height / weight", chose the guy who played captain america, got his stats off the interweb, plug them in, and he's BMI 26 and overweight and at risk of health problems. Apparently. Given I have the same build Wink you can see it's rubbish.
Report SlippyBlue May 25, 2019 6:28 PM BST
Blimey, 40 cigarettes a day is an incredibly high and dangerous amount of f@gs!
My bmi is around 27/28 which suggests I'm overweight, maybe I could lose 3 or 4 kilos if I wanted to but I don't particularly want to!
Report Dr Crippen May 25, 2019 6:59 PM BST
A lot of heavy smokers don't inhale.
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 11:09 PM BST
My late late cousin smoked 100 a day. No kidding.

...... she got a Rolls Royce with her Embassy coupons.
Report mouse muldoon May 25, 2019 11:13 PM BST
Sad must have had a silver shadow on her lung.
Report SlippyBlue May 25, 2019 11:23 PM BST
Mac, my Nan smoked 30 Senior Service a day pretty much all her life, remember those cigs mate, they had no filter? She never drank though but they done her in the end, led a full life and had 13 children, my Dad being her youngest son!
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 11:31 PM BST
I remember them slippy, they were very strong. Others which you don`t see now are Capstan and Woodbine. All the old Miners used to smoke them three brands.

If you don`t mind me asking slippy, what age was your Nan? The reason I ask is because my Uncle had a very similar habit but he smoked Capstan and he died aged 77.
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 11:31 PM BST
Your Nan must have been a wonderful woman.
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 11:33 PM BST
Bearing and raising 13 kids when times were tough. A different generation mate lost on us forever.
Report themightymac May 25, 2019 11:35 PM BST
The cousin did smoke 80-100 a day, but the Rolls Royce bit though was a joke. She died years ago.
Report SlippyBlue May 25, 2019 11:52 PM BST
My Dad's Mum was 82 when she passed Mac, Dad had 11 Sisters and 1 brother!! They had a farm in County Offaly and were self sufficient with raising livestock and crops and sold what they didn't need so they could to get by and pay the bills etc. Imagine having 11 Sisters, I've got one and she is a right pain in the derriere! Laugh
Report themightymac May 26, 2019 12:02 AM BST
82 was a great age for that generation slippy, especially a heavy smoker. What a wonderful life they must have had living off the land, although probably very hard work.

Your dad must have had a great time as a teenager when his eleven sisters brought all their friends around Laugh
Report akabula May 26, 2019 12:26 AM BST
Simon should pally up with TheMightyMac.
A few of his tips and he'll lose a helluva lot more than 20 pounds. Laugh
Report themightymac May 26, 2019 1:18 AM BST
Ya grass Ya bass LaughLaugh
Report portmanpark May 26, 2019 10:08 AM BST
His Barclays advert is a complete joke.The c*** is a billionaire and as no interest in  a repayment  calculator.
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