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Typical biased BBC.
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Did he "SMASH","OWN","DISMANTLE" him etc ?
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the usual headline is so and so destroys so and so, the youtubers in particular love that word.
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Dismantled is probably closest.
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On the one hand, Farage is very impressive. He has done more to shape Britain today than most politicians. Unfortunately Britain today is a laughing stock, paralysed by Brexit for the past two or three years. But compare the regular MPs who launched The Independent Group aka Change UK and promptly sank without trace, with Farage who has taken The Brexit Party from a few notes on the back of a cigarette packet to leading the polls and likely winning the election on Thursday, in just a few weeks.
Announced: 20 January Registered as a party: 5 February Winning the EU elections: this coming Thursday On the other hand, he's Boris with a populist touch. No detail about his core policy, and a shady back catalogue. |
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But compare the regular MPs who launched The Independent Group aka Change UK and promptly sank without trace,
And this lot are even more annoying because they branded themselves as the competent and sensible ones from the two parties going nuts, only to look like idiots on a regular basis |
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Marr is hopeless,lets them all get away with it,no probing questions,thats why he has the job,thats why they love coming on,easy ride-rubbish.
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iplayer link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00052y9/the-andrew-marr-show-12052019 |
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and they seemingly have as little policy position as the Brexit Party
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Oops. EU election is 23 May.
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Farage makes easy, cheap journalism. So he gets too much coverage/credence.
Even though he's just about the most self-serving, lying toad of them all. |
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Neither Chnage UK or the Brexit party are lobbying for power, one is a brexit party the other is a Remain party and as soon as Brexit is over one way or another, both will disintergrate very quickly.
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Really Study? The bloke has some touch opposition .
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*tough
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calmly DISMANTLED
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Marr was made to look like a tool this morning.
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Terry
I think government is so scared of losing their job (gravy train), that they don't want to get on the wrong side of the press, and therefore allow Farage the fuel he needs to be heard. Has anyone every asked Farage WHY he wants Britain to have its own sovereignty, self-rule (not that we don't rule ourselves anyway) and all the other stuff he bangs on about? Or, which laws precisely, the EU have come up with that affect us to a point where we're losing out? I've never heard those questions being asked. He's a would be tinpot dictator with a big mouth and a load of people gathering rhetoric, he appeals to the basest of instincts. Yet, he lives (some of the time) in France, German wife, wages off the EU, who he keeps fighting to work for every 5 years, takes bundles from US (we're all paying his wages) takes serious expenses, gets involved in other countries' politics. For all this, what does Farage actually do? I'll tell you. He gets people arguing, where they wouldn't have before and where there was no need to argue. He survives because he's a media dream. |
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But we don't rule ourselves Study,you know that,but yes I agree with his all self,self,self and that's one of the reasons Brexit hasn't moved on an inch in over 1,000 days.
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Marr missed a real opportunity to really get to grips with what The Brexit Party stands for, beyond a protest vote a week on Thursday.
Instead he spent the opening several questions trying to pin Farage down on whether he said no deal was better than a bad deal (Farage answered this and grew weary of the several variants of it) and ended upasking him really weak stuff about whether foreign patients with HIV should be treated on the NHS. Marr made it 'The Nigel Farage Show' rather than any deep enquiry into what the Brexit Pary stood for, who their candidates were and if, as farage claims, this was all about returning Britain to democracy, how Brexi Party would do this, beyond the rhetoric (get rid of the House of Lords? The Monarchy? Introduce proportional representation? What?) |
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Maybe Nigel promised Andrew a role in his cabinet
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The reason, imo, terry, it hasn't moved, is that Farage caused a wave, a weak PM (Cameron) rode it. Farage got all happy and notorious. Current weak politicians (May) can't handle the fallout.
Farage doesn't actually know any more than anyone else what to do next, or what happens that will be so radical after we leave. He has never had policies or plans and merely travels to wherever the spotlight is brightest. He's loving still being in the limelight. I have to disagree with you though. We fundamentally DO rule ourselves. British law is what we live by, under a British government. That has never changed. There are just a few edicts (many of which we ignore anyway -working time directives for one) and trade things, we don't rule. |
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A lot of people voted out because they felt we the British were under control of the EU, and I agree with that.
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My favourite is the Daily Express. Every SINGLE piece of CLICKBAIT headline for them on google news has at least ONE word in CAPS, you can tell it's the Express before you even LOOK at the link.
I've a theory Doh Wah works for them part time. He writes bout 1 word in 8. |
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I don't think Marr took him apart. I would say he exposed him and opened chinks in his armour that a more skilled or determined interviewer would exploit. Farage lost his cool and let his halo slip imho. He lost it and looked vunerable.
One thing I would say is that he is banging on about democracy and then blames Parliament and says they are preventing democracy! One thing I would say that so many fail to realise is that Parliament is sovereign here! It is working! God bless Gina Miller for going to court to ensure they were and are! The fact of the matter is that the current ( and previous ) bunch of politicians have been given an easy ride by the public. It is time for the public to enforce democracy and they can do that at the ballot box. The Euro Elections technically will count for nothing but the next General Election will and they need to ensure they vote for candidates that represent their wishes. The current MP's lied. Will the public vote them out of office? |
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*appease worries about
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The reason, imo, terry, it hasn't moved, is that Farage caused a wave, a weak PM (Cameron) rode it. Farage got all happy and notorious. Current weak politicians (May) can't handle the fallout.
Farage doesn't actually know any more than anyone else what to do next, or what happens that will be so radical after we leave. He has never had policies or plans and merely travels to wherever the spotlight is brightest. These are fair points Study and here was an opportunity to pin Farage down. Okay, he wanted to talk about the democratic deficit in this country - fine, what specifically would The Brexit Party do to address this? Andrew Neil would have got to this (he'd have let Farage talk over him and then skewerd him with a pithy comeback) but Marr seemed to have a pre-determined set of questions, based on random quotes, taken out of context (to fit with the VTR clips which were set up in advance, obviously) meaning that once Farage had answered the question, Marr had nowhere to go and couldn't think on his feet to come up with something more substantial. For once, it wasn't an 'anti-BBC strop' by Farage (IMO) but a genuine anger at asinisne repetitive questioning to fit in with a pre-ordained agenda. |
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I am glad this was not a vivisection thread
So was Farage I should think  Well If May and Parliament actually did their jobe, he would not need to came back Brexit should be agreed by now  |
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For once, it wasn't an 'anti-BBC strop' by Farage (IMO) but a genuine anger at asinisne repetitive questioning to fit in with a pre-ordained agenda.
My point exactly, Faragio lost it to Marr! WTF man! |
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The reason Brexit has not been agreed by now is Nigel Farage, Boris, Jacob Rees-Mogg and all the other Brexiteers have spent the last decade campaigning against the EU but have given absolutely no thought to what happens next.
If they wanted Brexit, it's easy: just vote for Theresa May's deal and we leave the EU. Job done. Ah, they say, but that's the wrong sort of Brexit. We meant some other sort of Brexit, whose precise details we cannot divulge but it somehow involves the EU begging us for a deal because we hold all the cards. |
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FARAGE and his Mob are Available for the Protest Voters , and there will be Millions of them ...
We will end up with MPs sitting in the EU parliament who want Nothing to do with the EU  A very sad state of Affairs tbh. |
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The Percentage of Seats won By TBP will be interesting ,if it is extremely High it will certainly Kybosh any plans for
a 2nd Referendum , it would be Pointless to have one . |
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NpL6XnM8dLE
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^^^^^^There it is^^^^^^
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A second referendum will divide the Country further it would be a shocking decision to have won as it is a no win scenario. Either Brexit win again result loss or Brexiters will want best out of 3 so nobody wins
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WD - Or just scrap the toss like in county cricket! How awful that is.
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We are in a right royal mess. Maybe the Queen should get involved! I understand why remoaners want another referendum, because they lost the first one. The big question to me is what will happen if they win the second? The Briexit Party which imho is likely to do pretty well in the Euro Elections will come centre stage at the next General Election. It won't be a case of Turkeys voting for Christmas because MP's will have no say. A General Election will have to come at some stage and they will all fear for their jobs. The obligation of Party Loyalty will be broken. I am not convinced Brexit is in our best Interests financially but I want us out and will even vote for Faragio's Brexit Party. The best we can hope for is a Constitutional Crises before any second referendum and a call for a General Election. I thought we would be polarised by colour of rosette but I think we shall be voting for in or out at the next GE and I think that is the best referendum you could have. |
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^ "I think we shall be voting for in or out at the next GE and I think that is the best referendum you could have."
---------- We ARE doing JUST THAT in this Thursday's European Elections. ... - and - The BREXIT LEAVE voters will LANDSLIDE it, too. |
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No not strictly true onlooker.
These Elections technically mean diddly. People are angry. It doesn't matter if they vote Brexit even if they want to remain. Tribal loyalties are hard to break. Plenty will vote fr their tribe but plenty won't. It is uncallable at present. One of the two main parties need to change tack and that could well be Labour. We shall see what happens. The Euro Elections are not a referendum. |
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@Whisperingdeath -- it is not the Remoaners who are blocking Brexit, it is the Brexiteers, specifically the ERG group in the Conservative Party.
If Boris, Jacob Rees-Mogg and the other ERG members voted for Theresa May's deal, we would already have left the EU. It is the Leavers who are blocking Leave. That's the irony. They vote against Brexit because they do not like Theresa May's deal. But (as per my last post) they have no viable alternative. |