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Injera
02 May 19 16:50
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This year's May Bank Holiday could be the coldest for 41 years as temperatures are expected to drop as low as -6C.

Snow and frost which is expected to creep in from Friday could put a halt to the 13 million drivers who are expected to hit the roads over the weekend.

The Met Office has warned of snow and sleet flurries on the high ground in the Midlands, northern parts of the UK and even some areas of the south across Friday and Saturday.  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6984711/May-Bank-Holiday-coldest-41-years-minus-6C-chills-frost-snow-sleet-way.html#comments

I bet my all the plastic I own that it'll be blamed on (Anthropogenic) Climate Change.

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By:
Crisp77
When: 02 May 19 16:56
Bad news for our hard working police force who have made a fortune in overtime out of protesters.
By:
lovegod
When: 02 May 19 16:56
Where's the fossil fuel I'm getting cold.
By:
Deltâ
When: 02 May 19 17:09
Monday  - papers sayed 26C this w/e

Thursday - 4 days laters papers sayed coldest for 41 years
By:
conditor
When: 02 May 19 17:18
A lesson learned delta Laugh
By:
Injera
When: 02 May 19 17:38
They really are full of it aren't they. Every Winter 'Siberian Britain' and every Summer 'Hotter than
the Sahara'.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 18:03
Global warming or climate change are perfectly reasonable terms if used correctly and backed up with some data that has not been massaged by the correlation DOES mean causation brigade . Surprised (NOT) no one in the MSM (or its periphery picked up on the shameless way Easter Sunday was abused by them to produce Hottest Ever click bait headlines .Easter for anyone that does not know occurs on the first Sunday after the next full moon after the vernal equinox and can cover a considerable period between 22 April and  very late May but usually before the 25th ,a spread of over a month . That has to be one of the worst climate change stats ever produced .
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 18:11
when will AVERAGE daily/weekly/monthly/yearly temps become widely used ?
By:
Injera
When: 02 May 19 18:14
Global stats go back about 150 wears so vitually worthless.

'Since records began' is an oft and meaningless phrase. If the MSM use scare tactics they are invariably talking nonsense.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 18:21
*Vernal equinox is in March not April and period of time Easter Sunday can fall on is from 22nd of March to late April
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 18:27
Or should I say earliest vernal equinox occurs is upon further scrutiny 19th March and latest Easter can occur is 29th of April ...I think ...
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 02 May 19 18:38
Reading the media recently, brings me to the conclusion that it's fashionable to accept man is causing global warming, and even more startling that most of them think we can actually stop it.

Well excuse me ''little wide eyed and helpless just left school,'' we don't all believe everything we're told by someone just because that someone has letters after their name.
Despite their guess being as good as anyone else's.

I'll only do what I'm forced to do, so I'm not going to travel less, shiver in the cold or give up eating meat.
So warm your icebergs on that Mr Attenborough, and stop taking us all for fools.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 18:42
BBC carbon footprint a colossal stain on humanity
By:
Just Checking
When: 02 May 19 18:45
I "believe" we are affecting the climate but all this "declaring a climate emergency" and virtue signalling how quickly they'll hit a target (that they of course have no chance of meeting but they won't be in office then so it doesn't matter) is just pathetic virtue signalling and attention seeking. Just our shallow politicians.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 18:48
An organisation that loves the smell of its own methane ,produced from forests of licence payers crispy pound notes .
By:
Just Checking
When: 02 May 19 18:50
Methane is odourless :P
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 02 May 19 18:51
The poor old Polar bears are running put of ice
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 19:00
Ok JC ,they say methane in its natural form is odourless but methane when encountered naturally always stinks ,but will happily go with swamp gas instead ,if thats ok with you ? ,very  fitting for the BBC ,and they spend a lot of time in the swamp
By:
Mexico
When: 02 May 19 19:04
Injera

I bet my all the plastic I own that it'll be blamed on (Anthropogenic) Climate Change.

You have not made clear in your bet who will be doing the blaming.


In these situations of unusual weather in one small part of the planet for a short period of time, it tends to be the journalists who desperately want a  climate expert to blame it on climate change.
They tend to disappoint the interviewer by saying we can't attribute individual events to climate change & then try to explain the difference between weather & climate. Gets a bit boring.
By:
conditor
When: 02 May 19 19:15
Maybe it could be down to all the trees felled,so a book about a guy with a beard could be distributed , ...strange post
By:
treetop
When: 02 May 19 19:19
Sensationalist headlines to capture attention then discuss further detail to fill out the programme. It used to be called World in Action or Panorama,etc but when viewing figures got so low they rehashed it all into news programmes to claim our attention.
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 19:30
many sites use there own alogiritham based on wind speed and humidity to create feels like temps ,but there is a big diff in these feels like temps across diff sites ,a feels like temps depends on what cloths you are wearing one would presume .
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 02 May 19 20:24
I still can't believe they've sold this s*** to the public

Started off as "global warming" they got rumbled on that and instead of running they instead just changed the same to "climate change"

You'd have to be pretty stupid to fall for such a botched money making operation ffs
By:
Injera
When: 02 May 19 20:59
Mexico - media, some scientists, MPs etc. As Dr C says it's fashionable. Young Greta got an audience with Corbyn. Sturgeon has declared a 'climate emergency', proving that 1000 arrests brings about political change.

Of course our climate varies/changes. Always has. But I've heard no discussion about the importance of CO2!!! Without it we die... No mention of our distance from the Sun and whether that shows variation. Nor the gravational pull of the Moon which is also essential to our survival. Zero mention of the paucity of data going back beyond 1880!

Nope, the reason Attenborough reckons we're doomed is because I drive a diesel and sleep with the light on. Crazy
By:
Mexico
When: 02 May 19 21:02
Sont

Not really sure where you are getting your information from

The climate scientists are still saying that the average temperature of the planet will increase. They haven't changed their opinions- hense the term " global warming "

You see the "global " part of that phrase refers to the whole planet & the "warming " part indicates an increase in temperature.


It is all pretty advanced terminology, not everybody is capable of understanding what the term means.

You indicate that you are more intelligent than the Drs, professors, PhD students who have "fallen for such a money making operation ". Care to quantify your understanding of the science behind the theory. Maybe explain your education level, exams passed, experience in the subject.

Do you have an "A+ in common sense "?
By:
Injera
When: 02 May 19 21:10
Mexico - which scientists? These?


William Kininmonth, a former head of the National Climate Centre and a consultant to the World Meteorological Organization, wrote,
“the likely extent of global temperature rise from a doubling of CO2 is less than 1°C. Such warming is well within the envelope of variation experienced during the past 10,000 years and insignificant in the context of glacial cycles during the past million years, when Earth has been predominantly very cold and covered by extensive ice sheets.”

Richard Lindzen, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, wrote:
“The notion of a static, unchanging climate is foreign to the history of the Earth or any other planet with a fluid envelope. Such hysteria (over global warming) simply represents the scientific illiteracy of much of the public, the susceptibility of the public to the substitution of repetition for truth.”

Ahh 'repetition for truth'!! A classic if ever there was!
By:
Mexico
When: 02 May 19 21:12
Injera

Why would anybody mention Earth's varying distance from the Sun if the effect is not significant.

The position of the continents has an effect on global temperatures- would you expect the news to report that Africa has moved a few meters since the industrial revolution?


I suspect you won't be driving a diesel car in 15 years time. If you are scared of the dark then no major problem in having you led light turned on & cuddle your teddy bear. You aren't causing too many problems so don't lose sleep over it.
By:
Mexico
When: 02 May 19 21:16
Nice work to remember those quotes Injera.
Saves the trouble of having to provide a link to the story.

I personally would be lazy & just post the link. Fair play to you.
Guess these 2 scientists are correct so the other 5 or 6 saying there is a problem must be wrong?
By:
Injera
When: 02 May 19 21:18
Any move to or from the Sun would be VERY significant.

Any shift of the Moon's g.pull would be life changing..

Attenborough's appalling fear driven garbage made no mention of the importance of CO2 nor the fact that over 70% of this world is water with a further 10% equally uninhabited.

Scientists who oppose or merely question the narrative are silenced. That aint healthy.
By:
Injera
When: 02 May 19 21:19
The point is that there ARE scientists who have different views. Maybe they should get the same amount of air time as those who follow the fashion?
By:
breadnbutter
When: 02 May 19 21:33
Diesel internal combustion engines have been exposed as being bad polluters of the air we breath ,all  internal conbustion engines are bad but diesels are the worsest and it was fitting the VAG group helped kill them off imo . “Advancement through technology “  and rather than the super highly regulated German controlled  EU it was the mercans that called vag group out for the lying and cheating scumbags they are .
By:
Mexico
When: 02 May 19 22:11
Any move to or from the Sun would be VERY significant.


Really Injera? Really?

Explain what you mean by "Any" @ "very significant "

Would a 100,000KM shift towards the sun be "very significant " with respect to global temperatures?

What about a 10,000 KM shift or a 1,000KM

Is a 100KM shift still "very significant " with respect to global temperatures?



Not seen those links yet - you have a good memory for those quotes. Opinion is divided amongst climate scientists- must be a 50/50 split Injera???
Or does one option have more support than the other?
By:
Mexico
When: 02 May 19 22:25
The point is that there ARE scientists who have different views. Maybe they should get the same amount of air time as those who follow the fashion?


Injera- you have put the word "are" in capital letters to indicate present tense .
Care to provide a link to these quotes with dates . How old are these 2 scientists you choose to highlight to demonstrate your point?
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 03 May 19 11:08
Why don't climte change protestors protest against Deforestation in the Amazon? clearing dozens of acres daily.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 03 May 19 11:34
One thing we do know that's cast in stone is man made air pollution along the roads and in our cities.

I've no opposition to them tackling that.
By:
treetop
When: 03 May 19 12:02
Scientists who oppose or merely question the narrative are silenced. That aint healthy.

This is my principal concern, deniers are treated as heretics that justify lynching by the media at times. Environmentalists have genuine concern about pollution and how we treat the earth but I do suspect the level of hysteria is overblown. Not keen on going to war with China to force change upon them either.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 May 19 20:53
In the 1990's the Carbon Dioxide level rose quite a bit in our atmosphere..

That is what caused the original panic...the film 'The Day After Tomorrow' etc

But it has steadied since then

However the polar caps are melting...so????????????
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 May 19 20:55
Throughout the life of the Earth our temperatures has varied

That is why we had ice ages....
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 03 May 19 20:56
I have not added much there with my postsLaugh
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 03 May 19 21:56
It's cold tonight and wet.
I've been out and came back freezing.

We went out for a meal and a drink, took the car because there are no police to catch you drinking and driving these days.

That's about the only thing that's improved in this country in recent years - you can take the car now when you go out for a drink.
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