Attempting to quit the booze?

bappers

Wagon fall scheduled for Saturday only way to stop heavy drinking is avoid all the scenarios where you drank in the first place sad but true.

I've got a packet of Burton's wagon wheels for saturday.

I'm starting to sound like Do Wah ffs.

with a post like that, your transition from Horse Racing forumite to fully fledged, armchair Chit chatter is now complete.

won quite a bit of money punting today and badly want to have a few beers to celebrate etc.
The winning feeling not the same without a few beers afterwards. Any ideas to combat this?
Or just have a few beers as its been proven i can go without for a decent length of time?

Hail to the ale!

interesting how hard it is to buy a lower strength beer   ...most where i shop are all at the higher end which is fine some of the time

Or just have a few beers as its been proven i can go without for a decent length of time?

And so it begins.

May 8, 2019 -- 6:40PM, prepared83 wrote:

won quite a bit of money punting today and badly want to have a few beers to celebrate etc. The winning feeling not the same without a few beers afterwards. Any ideas to combat this?Or just have a few beers as its been proven i can go without for a decent length of time?

Get stuck into tomorrow's form and win some more

With that attitude what you've won today will seem less significant and you won't feel the need to celebrate,your attitude was what I was like in my early days of punting for a living if I earned a decent lump could spend the next 2 weeks on the pi$$ and 2 after that recovering often missing winners in between.

Decided against getting some beers. Cheers denzil i'm doing just that. Glutenforpunishment

Just seen your second post denzil and i was/am exactly the same. It's the boredom in the quite times thats the big test

quiet

Good luck in the play offs prepared83, I'm quite confident you can get past the baggies,and I'd say it's odds on you'll face Leeds in the final which will be a very tough game for the Villains. I'd love your lot to get promoted as I have a lot of Villa mates and if they do go up then I'm going to hire a box at Selhurst and invite everyone! Best of luck and fingers crossed for you

Cheers slippy. A big week ahead for the villa and i'm sure both legs will be lively.
Hope you're well and the punting is going well

Managed to get through another friday/saturday evening with no booze.
Tomorrow will be 2 weeks without.

WD

Yuo. Well done. That would not have been easy yesterday!

*Yup

*Yup

Thanks lads, 2nd leg tuesday the next test. Finding myself drinking tea all day now but got to be better than booze.

Well done mate, you've done very well so far. Villa, to my thoughts anyway, are going to make the play off final and if they do get promoted to the Premiership then that will be the ultimate test of your resolve!!

Cheers slippy, that would be a major test but one game at a time for me

Mouse mulbaloon I've noted your post

Made it to 20 days without but had a beer tonight. My trigger, met up with my ex girlfriend to try and sort things.
Stressed me out and only thing to chill me out afterwards was a beer.
Now heres the thing ive not craved one and wanted one in all this time so is it a stress relief?
As i admit it has chilled me out, guessing tomorrow will be the next test

Wine & cheese bash would sort your heed out.

If men are turning to alcohol as stress relief (hardly a novel observation), I wonder how next months virtual ban by the Tories of access to internet "relaxation" will correlate with their desire to reduce male alcohol consumption?

surely on here, the target should be giving up gambling, not booze

Doing well Prep well done , Wished I had abstained last night

Topical tip 400 MR Back On The Lash

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same one as the last time you posted that?

(met up with my ex girlfriend to try and sort things.)

No that other ex was one from years ago, this one was my latest ex.

quality!

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How's the tinder grind going OP?

if you wanna cut down try real lemon juice and lemonade for example  and have  it ready to pour  in the fridge esp during the warmer months  ...a lot of the time i find i'm  opening a cold beer in a response  to the  hot weather   ...so  just need something to drink . Seems to work

Limoncello with lemonade is delish.

Giving tinder a break for a while as most of them are crazy.
Been a lot better with the beer but still drinking in social situations.
Cheers for the lemonade tip might give it a try.

Oh and villa getting promoted meant a lot of beers celebrating

Giving tinder a break for a while as most of them are crazy.


Agreed, it's tragic moving into your 30's cos you're left with slim pickings once you separate the wheat from the chaff (no kids, not obese...)

Having another go at having a break from the booze and done 2 weeks so far. Going well.
Anyone else on here attempting to quit or have a break?

Coincidence .. I've been making my own "lemonade" with just lemon juice and fizzy water, it's quite drinkable. Means I can avoid sugar AND aspartame etc which is in everything now.

When I quit the booze for good was aware due to past failures that drinking sugary drinks and even shandies/zero alcohol drinks affect the brain in an addictive manner due to additives etc. which sometimes was making me chain drink them like it was booze which quickly led back to the booze.
So advice would be keep off simple sugars/energy drinks and soft drinks to avoid the cravings initially and don't avoid starches in your diet to keep your insulin sensitivity up.
Seems any kind of break from the booze is a good thing nowadays plenty of underdiagnosed conditions starting from the liver good luck.

Everything in moderation queen mother drank over 80 units a week well into her 90's and got to 3 figures, truth is if your family got heart/stroke/kidney/ history then cutting out drink won't make you live to 100, enjoy life you're along time dead, many people say they feel like they 20 when they 60 What a load of bollox, a drink in the evening watching nature is brillant at 60 plus good for your heart.

a drink in the evening watching nature is brillant at 60 plus good for your heart.

Absolutely not.

Study: There is No Safe Level of Drinking Alcohol


http://www.sci-news.com/medicine/no-safe-level-drinking-alcohol-06346.html

^^^“Our findings are consistent with other recent research, which found clear and convincing correlations between drinking and premature death, cancer, and cardiovascular problems.

Zero alcohol consumption minimizes the overall risk of health loss.”

Research always says one drink a day is better than being teetotal anyway each to their own.

^^Research funded by the producers of alcoholic drinks no doubt.

Much the same as tobacco manufacturers told us that smoking wasn't bad for us.
People like to hear good news about their bad habits.

No goggle it

I had a pile of my own home made lemon juice lemonade last night and later on I might have solved a problem.

I've been wondering why my pee can sometimes be a vibrant bright yellow the last while, put two and two together.

I'm going to conduct an experiment I think!

PS
"Research always says one drink a day is better than being teetotal anyway each to their own. "
Bollox.

I'm certainly not tea total but I've certainly no misconceptions about it and wouldn't spout rubbish about it.
I'm sure there is scaremongering and rubbish from the medical profession but I've no doubt it can increase cancer risk never mind liver disease etc.

But I do think these new limits of like "14 units a week and you are a bad binge drinker" - sod off. Wouldn't surprise me if many doctors knock back twice, three times that themself. IMHO there is an element of thinking "lets pitch it very low as they'll always go over what we say anyway", which is patronising and dishonest.

https://www.drfuhrman.com/get-started/eat-to-live-blog/148/even-a-small-amou...

The article explains where the marketed cardiovascular benefits come from.

Now a new study has found that just one glass of wine or beer a day raises the risk of premature death by 20%.

What a load of bollox, we as a nation drinking more than ever and living longer than ever, of course drinking too much will kill you but the bollox they come out with today is just stupid and worse still so many people believe it. Remember diesel cars, the real reason we are getting more cancers isn't ever told but they know.

If possible try to make sense of who pays for and publishes the studies and what their motives could be especially if quoted from the US.
The government,food and health industries like to keep everyone confused so that they can keep peddling their unhealthy goods and drugs that the consumers pay for when the factually healthiest ways to live and prevent disease cost very little.

"Now a new study has found that just one glass of wine or beer a day raises the risk of premature death by 20%.
What a load of bollox, we as a nation drinking more than ever and living longer than ever,"

And my mind goes back to that thread with lots of people saying a basic education was a waste of time.

So life expectancy is 81 years in uk if you drink one glass a day you will only live till 64 do you really believe that?? Queen mother lived till 101 drinking 80 units a week so you believe she should of lived to 121??? when her life expectancy would of been 70 how can these people be 50 years out Queen doing the same so is philip the old lady down the road drinks 3 bottles of sherry a week and still walks 3 miles to town centre at 79 the list goes on.

Do you believe if your teetotal you won't get cancer(friend was proof that's bollox died at 43 of cancer never drink or smoked in his life) do you believe non smokers never get lung cancer look the figures up it's the fastest growing cancer now, like I said all about moderation no matter what you do in life and that includes eating.

P.S If the best you've got is to try and belittle people then I feel sad for you.

No I don't like people saying stupid things about health that seems to be to encouraging people to take risky and stupid decisions about their drinking levels based on a totally obvious lack of understanding of science statistics probability and independent events.

It's the "my granny smoked 60 a day and lived to 80 so smoking can't be bad for you" thinking, it makes me want to scream.

Well if you're going down the health route never sit in a traffic Jam or walk along a main road in rush hour, smoke 60 a day it will kill you drink 10 pints a day it will kill you but one **** or one drink a day will not kill you.

Alcohol is a poison.
So you choose your own level of risk, from zero to fatal.

football season starting

you will be back on it prepared83

What do you drink in the pub, if you give up booze? Sensible suggestions only please...

Cheers

Was it Frank Skinner who said when he gave up the booze it had a devastating effect on his social life.
I think many people especially those who are single, might start wondering what they go to work for if they couldn't go down the pub every night.
Of course it's different if your married or live with a partner.
And for the youngsters it's somewhere to meet up.

Although our religious friends seem to manage okay without the booze, but they're liable to get whipped for it if they drink back home, which might set their minds against it before they come here.

Alcohol is an addictive mind altering DRUG

THAT IS WHAT IT IS
IM NOT HIDING THE FACTS OR KEEPING QUITE TO BE LIKED
THATS THE TRUTH OF IT
ONCE YOU TAKE IT YOUR A DRUG USER JUST LIKE THE BADDIES
YOU NEED IT TO ALTER YOUR MIND SET SO YOU CAN FREE FROM YOURSELF

IM NOT CALLING YOU FOR USING IT .I GET NO MEDALS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH
THE PEOPLE DONT WANT TO HEAR THE REAL TRUTH BECAUSE
THEY NEED IT IN SITUATIONS WHERE THEY NEED TO FREE THEM OF SELF
THEY NEED THE DRUG TO ALTER THEIR MIND

HERE ENDETH TODAYS SERMON
TO THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE  SICK AND TIRED
OF ME TELLING YOU WHAT YOU DONT WANT TO HEAR
I JUST SAY DO WAH DIDDY LOVES YOU

Now let's all hold hands and sing all things bright and beautiful

^^I'll drink to that.

Millions of people pop pills everyday when they wake up, if you think that's not a poison god help you!! You're liver is the best organ in your body it gets rid of free radicals from alcohol cocaine to diesel fumes and best thing is don't put them in your body for a month you've got a new liver truly amazing.

Is that true? Even I can do 2 weeks when I want to, so do it back to back and I've got a new liver?

The liver, however, is able to replace damaged tissue with new cells. If up to 50 to 60 percent of the liver cells may be killed within three to four days in an extreme case like a Tylenol overdose, the liver will repair completely after 30 days if no complications arise.

what about Kidneys?

One glass a day will do your kidneys?

3 weeks without today and feeling alot better, no interest in having a drink at all right now

Blood pressure is affected by alcohol.

Andrew Marr used to take a month off drinking occasionally to help his liver.
He suffered a stroke.

You might need one after yesterday prepared!

today is 8 weeks without a drink now and not sure being a non drinker is for me.
Don't crave one etc but starting to think life is to short not to go out and drink with friends etc and have a few beers in the evening.
Could really do with a pint right now

Well done for your 8weeks
but from reading your story .you will only stop when you've had enough pain .and you've not had enough
You didn't just decide one day you will stop drinking .because you wanted to save money .you decided that something was wrong .and it was causing pain and I promise you 100% that pain will get worse and worse and WORSER
All the best to you what ever you decide to do .but I know what I would bet on and it's a cert . A cert proove me wrong by all means and I will say I'm wrong and hold my hands up .but I said CERT AND I KNOW A CERT WHEN I SEE ONE .AND AFTER READING YOUR FORM YOU ARE THE BBIGGEST CERT IVE EVER SEEN SAD TO SAY

THIS IS NOT TO HAVE A GO AT YOU ITS JUST TO SAY THAT YOUR ON THE ROAD THAT IVE TAKEN AND SEEN MANY MORE TAKEN ALL WITH THE SAME RESULTS MORE AND MORE AND MORE PAIN

A little over four months here, Prep - save for a seven year old bottle of white I found last week.  It gets easier mate.  Keep it up!

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I went to Saltaire Brewery festival last night, had far more than my normal couple of pints and feel so ill that I won't have more than two pints for months now. Can't even remember getting home though I caught two trains and a taxi

^ lightweight

Aversion therapy keeps it that way fortunately, I wouldn't want to feel like that very often. Much better now after a large English brekky but I had to wait for it til I'd finished pukin.

Glad its going well for you prepared, unless you were an Alcoholic i doubt if the odd drink will hurt you. I was a 14 pt a night bloke 30 odd years ago, piled on weight and stopped worrying about appearance etc. Once you break the cycle, decided i was spending too much of my money on booze, you wonder why on earth you drunk so much. Only have about 3 pints when i go out now and thats enough, back to my normal weight of about 12 1/2 stone and feel a lot better mentally and physically. Then i started to wonder why i was spending so much money watching the Villa when i could see the highlights and goals on TV, so stopped going to see them as well!
Now i'm sober and bored stiff!

i doubt if the odd drink will hurt you.

It won't hurt him at all, it'll just start him back on the slippery slope he made so much effort to get off.

9 weeks now and still going.
Well done to everyone else on the thread doing the same.
Stew being a sober villa fan can be painful ha

Well done Prep . I cut down this week , Feel Better for it , think its boredom leads to Drinking tbh .. In my case anyway

think its boredom leads to Drinking tbh

Without doubt for most people it's a way of filling in time along with the activities that go with it,well done prep not easy for a man with your interests.

9 weeks is very impressive. Doubt I could 9 days

You've done 9weeks and like I said from what I've read in your thread you stoped drinking because it was costing more than money .all that you've gone through once you pick up that first drink will have to go through again if you decide to stop .I couldn't go through it again
Like I said you've not had enough pain and hit rock bottom otherwise you wouldn't even be thinking about picking up

You will find a million excuses to pick that first drink up and then you will find a million more to pick the next one's up .while that pain that stopped you this time will have progressed and got much worse

Seems harsh but it's a fact

I won't call you if you pick up again .it's just what I did time and time again untill the pain was unbearable and threw the towel in

Haven't read back but, sincere apologies if anyone got there first...

You said you don't drink spirits, but best to mix it up a bit, for a better outcome!

Drink as much as you can force down your neck, then cease...

Have the most dreadful, up all night throwing up, worst experience ever and, still feeling like death halfway through the next day,
say the two words that could change your life.....

Never again!!!

Ps if I'd of been in your shoes and red this post I would becon my way to the pub to get a pint.
It's only the pain that stopped me from drinking not the pain which I caused the family
You can only stop when YOU WANT TO STOP FOR YOUR SELF

Sep 21, 2019 -- 1:13PM, Richie_Burnett wrote:

9 weeks is very impressive. Doubt I could 9 days

Because you are a paathetic piss can

Full time on the trolling now there's no test matches for you to ramp the weather on?

Drink as much as you can force down your neck, then cease...

Have the most dreadful, up all night throwing up, worst experience ever and, still feeling like death halfway through the next day,
say the two words that could change your life.....

Don't know if you know this but the only remedy for this level of alcohol intake is to keep drinking this is exactly how alcoholics are formed and it doesn't do anything to prevent anyone from drinking who is predetermined to this kind of abuse,in fact it lets them know that they can go this far and feel better once they start drinking again.
Ask anyone who's drank heavily for a number of years and they'll say the same,only way to avoid having a drinking problem is not to drink at all and find other ways to spend your time.

Tomorrow will be 10 weeks and still going well. No interest in a drink at all right now although its my birthday
next friday so that will feel a bit strange without a beer.
Anyway yes i believe a lot of it comes down to boredom, so keeping extra busy with the gambling and might have a lady on the go as well
Must say sober sex doesn't last that long

sounds like hes met zodiac in drag.

I highly recommend Adnams Ghost Ship 0.5% ale

tastes like the real Ghost Ship

IMHO the best low/no alcohol beer available.

well over 3 months without now, so it can be done.
Anyone else still off it?

over a year tea total ,no probs ,house full of drink of every description ,cant give it away ,ritually pour some of it down the bog every friday night ,stopped involuntarily wondering down the drink isle in supermarket about a year ago ,been off it for a few years but was on occasion buying a few tinnies even though i never drank them ,used to be happy as long as there was a drink in house even though i never had one but now getting rid ,have a nice wine collection but dont want to give it to family or friends as dont want them getting taste for it .