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Given that the samples could contain the DNA of a potential abductor, it seems strange to me that operation Grange is not biting his arm off for help.
Any thoughts as to why his offer has not been taken?
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-perlin-solve-car-dna-gamechanger-sutton-maddie-podcast/a1bac740-7b66-4a3d-b1d3-28ae8e3bf530
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If the McCann case gets wrapped up there won't be any need for trips to Portugal.
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They must not have confidence in the other experts abilities. If they preserve the DNA they might be almost certain that they will be able to decipher it in the future with advances in technology, but if they give it to the other expert and it fails they may not be able to use it in the future. Probably takes an expert in DNA and the technology to make that call.
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not sure what it would prove, madeline was on holiday with parents who had the car.
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They obviously would only hand over partial samples containing DNA. |
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watched a 2hr American special on quest last night if you believe operation grange there were
active burglar gang in area with lots of chatter spome of whoom worked at ocean club so had knowledge of tapas 7 unlocked empty rooms,so with access to 3/4 empty rooms only thing they stole was a 3 yr old kid, ffs childless couple who had spotters in street casing joint for days before snatching kid highly organised peado gang with spotters,watchers casing joint for days before snatching kid murat according to tanner paradiong up and down street mcaans,tapas 7 up and down street every 30 mins whole area must have been busier than oxford street on a Saturday afternoon,suprised threy didn't all bump into each other in the street like a carry on film and yet no evidence of a break in and mcaans only finger print on windows /shutters |
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Girl wouldn't go bed, daddy hit her too hard.
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excellent documentary on this on netflix wellworth a watch.
convinced me that the parents had nothing to do with it for sure |
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@lybertyne -- Girl wouldn't go bed, daddy hit her too hard.
Unlikely but the question remains, where's the body? Whatever theories you come up with, and after a few seconds' thought, how about -- she's three; woke up needing the toilet; needed a parent for wiping duties; went out of the flat to look for them -- which seems more likely than two (sober at this stage) doctors losing their rag at a toddler, the questions remain the same. Was she abducted, is she still alive, and where is she? |
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Zero evidence she was abducted. Zero evidence she is alive ( some evidence that she is dead)
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Apr 28, 2019 -- 1:40PM, The Dragon wrote:
excellent documentary on this on netflix wellworth a watch.convinced me that the parents had nothing to do with it for sure Crazy it is a terrible series. Though as it is aiming to persuade people they had nothing to do with it ( by leaving out a lot of info that incriminates them ) I suppose it succeeds on it's own terms. I agree, Netflix documentary series very biased toward their claims of innocence. Despite leaving out or rebuffing evidence, I am still ( on balance) of the opinion ,there is something very odd about the parents. |
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jeez, another mccan thread, time to let your obsession go allinR1 and others. Btw, what tober never metions is that the crime scene and it's evidence was trampled all over for 24 hours before it was sealed off with all and sundry coming and going, and the fact it was a rented apartment, God knows how many people would have had a cut key to the it not to mention family members of the owners, or the fact the apartment was situated on the periphery of the complex on the ground floor, quick easy access in and out, or how exactly could they possibly have disposed of the body in a short space of time never to be found. Keyboard warriors very good at pointing the finger at selective 'evidence', very poor at balanced observations, and that's because it's a great chance to showcase what great parents they are, look at me I would never leave my kids home alone, look at them what horrible people, they must be guilty, and their phoney hatred becomes palpable when they have likeminded company, 'gang mentality'. Turn it in ffs, we get the message, you are the greatest parent in the world.
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Keys cut ?
The apartment wasn't locked was it ? |
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SA, you would know that the McCann's claimed the doors were left UNLOCKED (as most people do with three young children abroad), so no need for a key. Kate McCann also claimed the window was open when she found it, yet nobody else claimed this.
It's unfortunate that the scene was not closed off earlier, however, I don't see how this is significant in the grand scheme of things. SA you keep giving your opinion here but you don't even seem to know the basics. |
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Who is SA ?
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The front door was locked, the patio doors at the back unlocked, locked or unlocked, an intruder would bring keys and leave his fingerprints/dna present, it's one of the first areas forensics check.
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prehaps they were wearing those hand protection equipment formely known as gloves.
The window in the bedroom had a lock, cleaners unlocked and open windows to let air in whilst cleaning, who knows if they forgot to lock it. I imagine in Kate's complete frantic state she could not remember what was like what, all she knew was her child was missing. Where there is blood people do tend to try and wash it away rather than leave it there  and you last line is laughable as that describes you. time to let your obsession with a missing little girl go, it's unhealthy now. |
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"time to let your obsession with a missing little girl go"
If the doors to the Flat were Left open , they should have been charged with Neglect , if this were a working class couple that would have happened , How can anyone Leave 3 little kids in a Flat and Go out on the PISH popping back every Half hour ??? INCREDIBLE BEHAVIOUR IMO .. That's why people have an obsession with the case , Seems to have been an obsession of throwing millions of Pounds at it As well .. MY MRS WOULD NEVER " NEVER " leave our Girls alone in our own house never mind in a flat in a strange Resort , They are guilty of Neglect at a Minimum , END OF > |
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the old nanny, that first paragraph is exactly what I'm talking about, yet another open goal for people to declare what great parents they are.
I don't even think necessarily that they are innoncent, I've no idea and would not be surprised either way as there is not enough compelling evidence either way, Gerry is certainly an odd fellow, his "f off I'm not here to enjoy myself" quote on the bus pre disapperance is bizarre, and he comes across as odd in interviews, but that's obv not enough for evidence lol. As for the working class thing, I agree. But that's not why people have an obsession at all. |
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Btw Gerry's "f off I'm not here to enjoy myself" is irrelevant, as Bogart says, it's just a saying, nothing more.
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Of course people are still going to be interested in this story, what with the hysteria that's been whipped up by the media frenzy and the fact that the big mystery has yet to be solved as she is still missing
The netfix series was awful in that it gave the impression that (unlike Portugal) it's perfectly normal behaviour in Britain to leave very young children without supervision all evening whilst you go out enjoying yourself. It certainly isn't. When you see the local Portuguese women in floods of tears / real emotion on their faces, it's in stark contrast to the parents behaviour during press conferences. They looked unconcerned, with the mother doing that 'no tears' fake crying / broken voice thing, Gerry putting his arm around her looked a deliberate act, no spontaneity or naturalness about it . This was the very next day after Maddy went missing. Fishy. |
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I wouldn't trust Netflix to tell me what day of the month Christmas falls on.
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did nexflix mention how Gerry,s tennis lesson went
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Police enter room and don't bother sealing anything off, window shut?....google casa pia. High ranking people involved in abuse. Would make sense not following protocol on the day when you think about. If you think the McCanns's are fishy, no more as fishy as Goncarlo Amaro.
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just sayingas i saw it inept Portuguese police, Cant think why (NF) they would report from a biase perspective????
Abducted by persons unknown for me |
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sure I mentioned this in the last marathon McCann thread about Bogart, but why do you think he has disabled comments on nearly all of his videos? no counter arguments, no debates, no questioning of his analysis, nothing, nothing allowed, you will believe what I tell you to believe style of documentary making is not really worth the watch is it.
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As for Amaral, guy was a loudmouth clown who could/would not stop behaving so amateurishly making a series of grandsweeping public statements - before going on to sell a book about it/make money from a 'dead child' - his assumption.
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'The Madeleine McCann case solve' part 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 - comments are disabled, only part 14/15 'the closing arguments' are comments not disabled. The other vids are random debunking vids.
He had a reputation for heavy handedness in previous cases, he sold a book for money, get over it, he was unprofessional and kept spouting off in public, he could not care less whether she's dead or alive. |
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Well the comments section was at some point was enabled for all episodes.
Anyway, there's more chance of getting through to a brick wall. Why are you so obsessed with the comments section anyway? If it was on TV you would just take the information his hard work has presented and move on. Anyhow, according to you Amaral is disgraced. Neither he Portuguese people nor the Portuguese supreme court agree with you. I'd suggest that if you don't like the topic, and you clearly don't let facts of evidence get in the way of your opinion, then you should stay off these threads. |
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We'll take you word for it it was, but now it is disabled, kaput, can't say anything, can't challenge anything.
Ah the Portugese establisment - you mean all those types caught up in Casa Pia? or the types who were so unprofessional they didn't not have the brains to tape off the crime scene for 24 hours ffs. I suggest you stop obsessing over a missing girl that nobody has any real idea about, there are people paid and paid well to find out what happened and after 12 years nothing, also I'm sure you would like me to stay off as it means you have carte blanche to keep peddling the same old tired rubbish. |
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Wouldn't be the first time you were caught out lying though would it?
reminds me of this on the last thread where you just randomly lie Firstly - let's look at how quickly you shift the goal posts AllinR1 Apparently no body = no death Then AllinR1 You have certainly implied that no body means she's unlikely to have died in that apartment, when all the evidence and the belief of the Portuguese police (who know much more than us) suggest that is what happened. So you've quickly went from saying that I said there was no body so no death to that I implied that no body means she's unlikely to have died in that apartment Let's look at what I actually said. scandanavian_haven 17 Mar 19 00:26 The truth of the matter is this, until there is a body found, everything else will just be either circumstantial or inconclusive, there is no hard evidence whatsoever. scandanavian_haven 17 Mar 19 16:24 I don't remember saying that she did not die there, I haven't got a clue whether she is dead or alive and if she is dead where she died, what I've said is that unless a body is found, nobody will ever really know what happened, there is nothing conclusive. No mention whatsoever that I said conclusively there was no body no death OR that I said it was unlikely she died there because there was no body, there above you can clearly see I said nobody knows either way and I haven't called it either way. |
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that would be the crime scene with according to kate open doors,forced windows and abductors on the loose as she left her 2 twins alone after their sister was taken [ they've took her ] and went back to tgapas bar
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