JWH 9/11 Conspiracy

and we never will. and i mean never ever. i'm in on it

So do you guys think that more people were involved in setting up the 9/11 attacks than were involved in creating the moon landing hoax?

Many threads on this subject on here as well as Madeleine McCann. Yet to hear of anyone changing their opinions despite evidence/links offered.

Some people are very well informed on 9/11 and others are clueless.

But if the 'official line' offered to the general public regarding 9/11 is proved to be nonsense, then surely questions have to be asked.

By not asking these questions and just burying your head in the sand, is exactly what the US gov want. Its not up to the likes of JWH to define what did actually happen, more so the people who defend the 'official line' when their explanation has more holes than Swiss cheese.

Apr 25, 2019 -- 10:26PM, bobweenit wrote:

9/11 was a inside job whoever believes the official story is a pure clown! Like 4 planes can fly unattended without being shot down 2 into the heart of New York city the other into the Pentagon oh yeah and the other 1 were they all used there cell phones on which was proved impossible

I'll try and answer some of these things in order.

Bob I don't mind being a clown.

You come across as saying that shooting down passenger aircraft is an everyday and mundane thing to do. Apart from the logistics involved in getting the fighters to intercept the passenger planes and getting authority to shoot them down can you imaging the decisions that had to be made? Highjacked planes 'normally' end in the highjackers forcing the plane to land somewhere and then negotiations begin. It's easy to look back after the event and say what should have happened (not unlike aftertiming bets) but making the right decision in real time isn't so easy.

This isn't an unreasonable precise of what happened: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5215957/ns/us_news-security/t/could-fighter-jets-have-stopped-attacks/

When you say "they all used there cell phones on which was proved impossible" what do you really mean? Who are they? You say 'all' so how many cell phone calls were made? Who said/proved making cell phone calls was impossible?

I should add that if you're going to make assertions then you should at least provide some sort of source for your info.

^^ does that not also apply to your opening post?? Apart from the news

Apr 26, 2019 -- 7:46PM, conditor wrote:

^^ does that not also apply to your opening post?? Apart from the news

I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain please.

Bob

Do you mean the doomed passengers made cell phone calls to their loved ones / police / news agency??


planes had phones on every seat normally above the flip down tray. There's were very expensive to use but the guys making the calls decided speaking to their family was worth the credit card charge.


BTW Bob. You have not explained what you believe did happen on 9/11. What crashed into the WTC? Was it a hologram? A missile? Maybe a plane?

Sure, you attacked JWH about his views ,why? everyone is entitled, ...and when people come on to express thier views you come back with news clippings,

Because I think that anyone who believes there were no planes highjacked and crashed into buildings killing thousands of innocent people is deluded. If you have a point to make about why that isn't true then make it.

By not asking these questions and just burying your head in the sand, is exactly what the US gov want

Blackrock governments personnel constantly changes so are new representatives briefed on what actually happened and told to go along with it?

Deluded ?thats where you fall short bud ..Some people support Liverpool and think Everton fans are deluded, at the end of the day each to thier own ,I don’t do conspiracies,religions or aliens,  but governments pi$$me off

Apr 26, 2019 -- 8:02PM, conditor wrote:

Sure, you attacked JWH about his views ,why? everyone is entitled, ...and when people come on to express thier views you come back with news clippings,

JWH had initially said he didn't consider anyone worthy of talking to if that person believed planes crashed into the WTC.

He was asked what he thought happened on that day, since he claimed the planes didnt crash.

He responded that it was not for him to tell us. And that we must find the truth ourselves.(He went into preacher mode as he clearly didnt have the answer)

There is a reason why we are asking him to explain his version of events. He thinks our version is wrong. But he wont even explain what his version is, let alone that version being right.

Conditor -
JWH Has posted his view that innocent people have committed mass murder on 9/11

My view is that anybody with an "A+" in "common sense " would be able to explain what they believe happened.

Conditor - you are willing to defend JWH's right to express his views where he accuses innocent people of killing a couple of thousand people (without any evidence).

Yet you are quickly around to "attack " somebody who points out lies & asks questions regarding JHW accusations.
Notice any hypocrisy in saying everybody is entitled to their views, then "attack " somebody of expressing their views.

BTW - under UK law it can be a criminal offence to publish "views". So not everyone is entitled .

Apr 26, 2019 -- 8:15PM, conditor wrote:

Deluded ?thats where you fall short bud ..Some people support Liverpool and think Everton fans are deluded, at the end of the day each to thier own ,I don’t do conspiracies,religions or aliens,

Reply went missing it was this: I assume you don't know what deluded means.

So he posted a view, as you have A+ ,just shows you the mentality,

Conditor

Very kind of you to believe I have an A+ in common sense.

I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in defending somebody for publishing their view that innocent people committed mass murder but feeling nobody else is allowed to point out the flaws in that theory.

And of course that not everyone is entitled to publish their views. There are people in jail & other people have been fined for doing that.

Still you are entitled to express your views - just don't be offended if people disagree with them.

The thing is chap I didn’t have a view

Really Conditor

Thought you said everybody is entitled to their views (without being "attacked).

My mistake- though that was your "view".

Ok bud ,let’s change tact, what’s your view?

2 ice cream vans 1 with 32 people in the queue , one with 2 iin the queue ,which would you use ?

My view regarding JWH "theory " is

If you publish an accusation that people murdered a couple of thousand people then you should at least know what you believe happened, especially if you actually claim you have an "A+ in common sense "

Doubt I would use either van Conditor. Think I've used an ice cream van once in the past decade.

Fair play ,what’s your view?..as posted don’t believe in conspiracies.

So a few days ago i posted this question to Charlie and / or anyone to answer for me.

I posted links to free books to download and to read from a guy who has spent 18 years investigating the incident who humbly admits when he initially began to research he had no idea where it would lead him.

The books are fascinating. They identify the lies , the deceptions, the disinformation, the battles , the struggles etc etc to find the truth. Uncanny work from a guy who has devoted a great deal of his life to this project.

Anyway here we are 3 or maybe 4 days on and NOTHING.

all he had to do was to answer the question.

If he believed the Shanksville fairy tale then >>>>>


John.W.Henry. 24 Apr 19 19:31 Joined: 20 Sep 11 | Topic/replies: 1,615 | Blogger: John.W.Henry.'s blog
There will be a couple who read this and take on board what i have stated ... they are the ones i am interested in helping... The rest .. frankly i dont really give a flying fcuk about but it was good to expose you for what you are ..,and to get you to admit to no personal research or " looking up "  was a personal goal so all is good as i sensed that from our previous discussions but the only proof is in the confession ... which i got .. enjoy

oh and if you do get chance tonight ...

* WHERE DID THE PLANE DISAPPEAR TO IN SHANKSVILLE ???????

**WHERE DID THE DEAD CREW BODIES GO ?????

***WHERE DID THE DEAD HIJACKERS BODIES GO ?????

****WHERE DID THE DEAD PASSENGERS BODIES GO ??????

*****WHERE DID THE PLANE WRECKAGE GO ?

******WHERE DID ALL THE AIRCRAFT FUEL GO ?

*******WHERE DID ALL THE DEBRIS GO ?



Frankly i didnt really expect anyone to reply with the answers because if they profess to believing the official narrative they have to write down that......

IT ALL JUST DISAPPEARED

and therein ends the discussion.

And the really funny thing is ...

It is me they call the tin foil hat wearer

OMFG !!!

MAKE THE LIE BIG, KEEP IT SIMPLE. KEEP SAYING IT OVER AND OVER AND EVENTUALLY THEY WILL ALL BELIEVE IT . ( Dr Joesph Goebbels , Nazi Propaganda chief )

NB. I don't entertain Mexico anymore because he refuses to use any common sense when engaging his fingers with a keyboard.

Detraveller : JWH had initially said he didn't consider anyone worthy of talking to if that person believed planes crashed into the WTC. * I said that if they believed 4 commercial airliners crashed on 911 *

He was asked what he thought happened on that day, since he claimed the planes didnt crash.

He responded that it was not for him to tell us. And that we must find the truth ourselves.(He went into preacher mode as he clearly didnt have the answer) * I stated i knew what didn't happen

There is a reason why we are asking him to explain his version of events. He thinks our version is wrong. But he wont even explain what his version is, let alone that version being right. * I just want YOU to put down what you think happened according to the narrative you believe


Another snide snipe from DT who blows wind into his trumpet but no worthwhile sound comes out !!!

I said I do not believe the official narrative regarding 911 as my common sense will not allow me to accept the Shanksville fairy tale as being truthful.

i ASKED ANYONE TO PUT DOWN ON A POST WHAT THEY THINK HAPPENED BASED ON THEIR BELIEVE OF THE OFFICIAL NARRATIVE BEING TRUTHFUL

I am still waiting for one of the hard hitting MSM troopers to confirm where the story takes them

Again, you come back with multiple long posts that do not tell what you believe happened on 9/11. The closest you have come is here are a few free books that tell what happened. Which again points to the fact you yourself dont know what happened.

The point of this thread was for you to give us one reason why you dont believe the official narrative. You still haven't. We notice the pattern now where you always make long posts asking people to answer your question, while you yourself refuse to answer any. Forget the answer, you were only asked a single reason!

By the way, I did answer your questions, the questions you keep repeating in all caps in every post. You conveniently ignored them.

I would suggest you read the OP again. There is a very simple question in there.

Here is the OP: So JWH let's see if you can post one reason (note the word one) why you believe this. Cut out your normal waffle and slagging off and post the reason

There was a reason Charlie put it like that. You are clearly continuing with the waffle without giving that one reason that we all so badly want to hear.

one reason ffs

JWH

You keep posting the same garbage asking people to answer your questions (although they have been answered in official documents) yet you refuse to explain what you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11.
Clearly you are not using common sense- why would you claim you have an "a+" in common sense.


So to answer your silly questions.
None of the 4 planes "disappeared "
At Shanksville wreckage was recovered, human remains were recovered (& identified with DNA) , black boxes were recovered. The plane was tracked on radar & a few eyewitness saw it heading towards the ground. Phone calls were made from the plane. People claimed responsibility for crashing the plane. 

JHW - what do you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11?

R.O.F.F.L.E.


I have told you on countless occasions I do not accept that 4 commercial airliners crashed in the manner as documented in the official narrative on 9/11.

I need someone to convince me through substantiated evidence including genuine eye witness accounts from first responders, witnesses, coroners......In fact anyone where it is not just regurgitated nonsense from never never land. !!!!


you cannot answer the question can any of you ????

Funny as f***.

You all give it the big one but not one of you can write down in a post an answer

Here we go again...

Lets concentrate on SHANKSVILLE for openers ..

I have offered you books to read and videos to watch including MSM footage which is totally incredible but still no one has the intelligence to answer the questions because IF you have half an ounce of realism within your consciousness you will know its a lie...

SO LETS HAVE IT IN HARD COPY .....

* WHERE DID THE PLANE DISAPPEAR TO IN SHANKSVILLE ???????

**WHERE DID THE DEAD CREW BODIES GO ?????

***WHERE DID THE DEAD HIJACKERS BODIES GO ?????

****WHERE DID THE DEAD PASSENGERS BODIES GO ??????

*****WHERE DID THE PLANE WRECKAGE GO ?

******WHERE DID ALL THE AIRCRAFT FUEL GO ?

*******WHERE DID ALL THE DEBRIS GO ?


I am really enjoying exposing the forum clowns for what they really are !!!!

Mexico... You do no research.. I cannot take you seriously.. Please stand down b4 i die of laughter. Thanks in advance.

Maybe it passed through the crator and came out of the another hole in the ground and went straight on through to the bermuda triangle ?

Maybe it was made from butter as per other planes on same day ???

I dont know.. lets see what the fountains of eternal knowledge can spout at me.

Sorry mex.. just seen you have said  phone calls were made... I am officially dead now. lolololololololol.

I need you to explain to me how that was possible in 2001 ??????????

OMFG !!! Wake me up b4 you gogo

Maybe they had them special phones with signals at 30000 feet ? You know the ones... The ones that didnt exist.... Maybe they had wifi in the aircraft.. ??? oh no thats way too early for that ?? I am on the floor now. SERIOUSLY

How can you write so much without answering the question? Your exams sheets must have been hard to mark for the examiners.

Cannot bring yourself to write it down can you Detraveller ... ROFFLE

Come on .. Full of keyboard bravado.. Lets have it .. I am so keen to be educated

Can I just ask you one question? Just one? Its not related to 9/11

The anonymous chit chat forum awaits your response.. No one is going to laugh at you for being honest ..come on man .. You know you want to .. Do not evade the question..AGAIN

The anonymous chit chat forum awaits your response.. No one is going to laugh at you for being honest ..come on man .. You know you want to .. Do not evade the question..AGAIN

i will answer anything after you have answered mine

John

What are you on about. regarding phone calls & "A+ in common sense "

I've already explained that plans had phones on board- these were expensive to use . They were normally on the seat in front above the flip down tray.

You claimed to have "researched" this.

There is a massive amount of evidence to support the theory that 4 planes crashed.
I answered your questions (& this one about phones) yet you refuse to answer a really simple question.

What do you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11.

Mex.. Just answer the question. Dont evade it

I think John needs to get some basic education on the concept of burden of proof.

This thread has great entertainment value like the 5G thread its gonna go around in circles and stop being amusing.

Sorry Mex i dont believe you. Sorry. That has been struck off form me as absurd.

The only plane in service with this special phones... Yep. love that..

Did they recover any of these special phones from the crash site ???

And still no one answers.. This isnt a circle at all..

IT IS DENIAL FROM THE MSM BELIEVERS

^ you don't believe they have phones on planes....... WTF???
this guy is a total zoomer

Welcome Northanlite. Tread carefully though.

OMFG DT.. Just answer

I am speechless John.

I think im going to blame my neighbor of stealing a million dollars from my home and make him prove he didn't do it.

Here we go.. Here come the troops.. LOL.. Just answer the questions DT.

I am speechless. Maybe im starting to see the light.

If i had seen evidence of you burying the money in your garden then i wouldnt ??

Maybe he buried it in a crater and it all just disappeared. Maybe thats the solution

The only plane in service with this special phones... Yep. love that..
In 1984, there were 20 routes with inflight calling facility.
Probably no relevant to your claim of no phones on planes in 2001 but just wanted to put it out there.

If you really spend time to think about it and research it properly you may well see the light until then would you like a match ?

Funnily enough i have one.. Your much needed and requested for answers and the never ending story

Mobile phones that could get a signal at 30,000 ft ?

Just wanted to put that out there

mobile phones work on planes too as long as in range of an antenna which is about 10 miles to get a decent signal.

Now lets have your answers

Thanks North.. Duly noted.

Do you truly believe that it was impossible to make phone calls from a plane in 2001?

I just told you in 1984, you could make a phone call from the place on 20 different routes in America.

I dont think any calls were made from this plane ..

I wonder if they found the sim cards in amoungst the wreckage ?

Maybe one or two may turn up in the future

Where are your answers DT ?

Have you forgotten them ?

Lets just put them up again for you lest you forget ?


* WHERE DID THE PLANE DISAPPEAR TO IN SHANKSVILLE ???????

**WHERE DID THE DEAD CREW BODIES GO ?????

***WHERE DID THE DEAD HIJACKERS BODIES GO ?????

****WHERE DID THE DEAD PASSENGERS BODIES GO ??????

*****WHERE DID THE PLANE WRECKAGE GO ?

******WHERE DID ALL THE AIRCRAFT FUEL GO ?

*******WHERE DID ALL THE DEBRIS GO ?

Dont be scared I will not hold it against you ?

Push yourself down that rabbitt hole

I only know the answer to one of those questions. Not sure about the others.

LOL.. CONSPRACY

You know as well as i do its bunkum but you wont admit it

******WHERE DID ALL THE AIRCRAFT FUEL GO?
Some of it was burnt during flight. Some of it after the crash. The remaining was absorbed by the soil. The distribution was about 20%/75%/10%

Great stuff. Good percentages.. Now for the rest

So we 105% of fuel distribution .. Another lie ?

Yes 105%. Whats wrong with that?

I dont think you have a scooby doo DT ? at least you are facing it.. At some stage the reality will smack you straight on the nose

LOL.. Love it..

Just kept facing it.. The truth is well on the way .. Try the other questions ..

THis is the best I could do. Now you are saying 105% is not possible? Youre a clown really.

John
I answered your questions it is you who refuse to answer one simple question.

What do you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11.

I personally have been on many flights (pre 2001) which had phones on every seat . Basic "research " & "common sense " will show that I am telling the truth. Many planes had phones on board.

Now John I have answered your question so time for you to explain what you believe DID HAPPEN.

You wont face the reality Dt..Just keep thinking about it.. The more you think about it the more absurd it becomes.

Clown ? Ive been called worse.. Keep at it

Mex. Go away please unless you want to answer the questions

Its becoming more and more clear to me now

John

They had phones on planes in 2001

Anybody with common sense who has "researched" the subject would know that.


I have answered your questions John. It is you who refuse to explain what you believe.

But if there were phones oon plane where did the sim cards go? Now don't tell me those phones worked without a sim card.

The phones are a smokescreen for not answering the questions.. Hey ho !!

As i expected when i entered this debate many months ago.. There are plenty that believe the narrative but refuse to do the proper research.

This is the most important event that has happened in our lifetime and it deserves to be properly documented.

Sadly it is a fairy tale which is not even that credible.

I will never get answers here because they are impossible questions.. The only thing you can be sure of is there was no plane crash at Shanksville because the documented evidence doesn't stand up to basic scrutIny.


what actually did happen on 9/11 is the real game changing issue  and that is why they have defended the narrative unreservedly over such a long period. It has to be kept hidden at all costs.

The events of 911 changed the world and we all have to live with that but it doesn't mean we have to believe it.

I will leave it there because I have gone as far as I can go. I have Exposed posters (who may have thought they have had credence on here) as non researchers and lie believers as i knew they wouldnt put it down in hard copy what they really believe happened because deep down they know none of it adds up but to face the reality of having lived with that lie for nearly 2 decades eats them from inside to out.

Enjoy the evening 

You gave it your best JJohn. Thats all that matters. Still, it was a very simple question that you refused to answered. Alas!

Have we gotten anywhere in 200+ posts or have we been going round and round?

John you posted this (in response to me answering you questions "

Sorry mex.. just seen you have said  phone calls were made... I am officially dead now. lolololololololol.

I need you to explain to me how that was possible in 2001 ??????????

OMFG !!! Wake me up b4 you gogo



I have explained that many planes had phones- I personally have been on flights with phones on. It is not a smokescreen.
John you claimed to have "researched " the subject & you wrongly claim to have ab "A+ in common sense " . It is clear your research is seriously flawed. How could anyone who has "researched " the subject not know about the phones on planes?


John - people have answered your many questions yet you still refuse to explain what you believe DID HAPPEN on 9/11.

John - There were phones on planes in 2001. - I suggest you "research " the subject.

Apr 28, 2019 -- 9:15PM, edy wrote:

Have we gotten anywhere in 200+ posts or have we been going round and round?

WE've learnt that there were no planes offering an inflight telephone service in 2001. Other than that its the same story.

rofl he is an obvious troll - the irony is the terry the simpleton thinks he is a fellow believer.

Tweet from just now from P.Brauschweler.
"No doubt about it! My husband is an Engineer from FTI Zurich and a demolition expert in the Swiss Army.From the minute he watched the first building fall to the third one,he said they were "perfect implosions" in other words,done from the INSIDE NOT from the OUTSIDE".

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