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Realised the other day
That it took five years of my life to get one
And at no time at any job interview after
I ever went for no one actually asked me about it
What a fecking waste of time
There's a photo of me in a reception area
With an enlarged bog roll , a cloak and a silly hat
Covering a chip out of the plaster board
Still the Uni got paid .....
That it took five years of my life to get one
And at no time at any job interview after
I ever went for no one actually asked me about it
What a fecking waste of time
There's a photo of me in a reception area
With an enlarged bog roll , a cloak and a silly hat
Covering a chip out of the plaster board
Still the Uni got paid .....
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Five years?
Were you cut out for it? |
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I don't believe that you spent five years completing a masters degree and no one even mentioned in in your interviews.
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At my Masters interview twenty years ago, the tutor sat down and said,
"I have to warn you, I realise i'm only going to get 2 or 3 good people a year. The rest aren't chosen for any ability but to provide a conducive learning environment for the chosen few". That kind of honesty just would not exist in this day and age.  |
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Were you one of the chosen few?
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Yes, he just wanted to warn me. He was absolutely right, the standard of practical work (Fine art) submitted by my peers was absolute dogs**t. Irrespective, enjoyed the course immensely and learnt a great deal. Was it of any benefit in terms of a career?
Would I be posting on here right now if it were?  |
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lol.
But i've got bad news for you. Teachers use this trick on all students. Make each kid feel special thinking he's the best for some reason. Gives the students that extra push. Your work was probably as dogsh1t as that of your peers |
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But, but, I demand to be special!
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Yes I originally enrolled for two years but the thesis took me years to complete.
At job interviews afterwards I cant remember any of the places actually even asking me to provide a copy of the cerification. Looking back at it, it was obvious then that most of my "original" work was cut and paste from certain references that I critiqued. I would imagine there is software out there now that would fail my thesis because most of the 20,000 words werent actually mine ! |
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detraveller ...you are 100% right about teachers today.
is that because of the system ? are they all running around being positive about everything because the facts are its now a sh1t job ? |
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That would make them not positive
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Not in any of the dozens of jobs I applied for - and several I got - did they ever ask to see a copy of my cycling proficiency test certificate.
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I assume it was in Psychology.
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What about that life saving cert down the swimming baths
Dive into the pool dressed in pyjamas Fetch a rubber brick off the bottom No one ever asked me if I had a life saving certificate |
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Yes, but was it top of your list of qualifications?
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It`s not what you know but who you know.
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Having a nice firm handshake helps at interviews.
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Really
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Any finger Movement advice AK ? Or just a firm grip ?
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The vast majority of qualifications one achieves over a lifetime appear to be totally worthless
Do they just keep trainers, teachers, tutors in jobs Or Are we the educated elite ? |
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I got my width and length badge for swimming at primary school.
Can't say it benefited me in my career. |
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Like to buy my masters degrees in India for #7043 rupees ...
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I always question the merits of qualifications based on remembering what more intelligent pioneers have found out.
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They do gambling courses at Nottingham, don't they? I wonder if the tutors are all millionaires?
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Interesting to know what the syllabus is like if anyone's been on the course.
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If Mart could land a little nail hammering job there for a week then he'd absorb everything they know.
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He'd be running the lectures on percentages and probabilities
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End of the lecture he'd walk off with a nubile student on either arm.
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Unless you are interested in the "science" of addiction, you would learn more on one of the old 6 week residential training courses that Korals etc used to run for their prospective shop managers.
Obviously no longer available due to EPOS - managers now only required to entice people to play in their free FOBT contests rather than to settle £10 ew double at 7/2 a fifth the odds with a 15p R4 and the 5/1 second (now at quarter the odds (because the 8 runner race had a last minute withdrawal!). I spent 6 very happy weeks on the lash in Weston Super Mare in the early 80's learning the art of the filthy each way from a Korals trainer but every time you see one of those Nottingham lecturers giving an "expert" insight on the TV they seem to be representing the industry - so assume they are funded/sponsored by the industry. |
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masters degrees used to be a thing of beauty
now anybody can do it and they are just another bought qualification, they should come with a wealth warning. |
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My first job after graduating, in 1985, involved translating patents, and required a minimum of a 2:1 degree in a foreign language (this was back when a 2:1 put you in the top 35% of graduates, rather than the bottom 35%, as now). A girl joined at the same time, with just a 2:2, but she simply said she had a 2:1 and assumed correctly that the employer wouldn't bother checking.
After three or four months it was clear she couldn't handle the work, so she was appointed office manager. The same salary, but a really cushy number. That was definitely a lesson in the University of Life as far as I was concerned. I stuck the job a few months longer, but then West Tip won the Grand National and that was it for me as far as the world of work was concerned. Well, bar spending 1987 in another office, translating medical texts, following an unfortunate afternoon at Devon & Exeter. |
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Screaming - Translating patents also a requirement of a betting shop manager back in the 1980's when on relief in some of the less literate quarters!
Union Jack patent (bet favoured by all the real shreewdies (not!), 8 selection, each one looking like a squashed then smudged dead spider, no times, no meetings, sometimes the same selection in several boxes. Usually each way, sometimes each way equally divided. Didn't matter how many languages you spoke, some patents just can't be translated! |
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^ obviously 9 selections.
8 plus Pat Eddery ridden banker in the middle (usually finished 4th) which made settling easier! |
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Got a degree in geology - never used it.
Got a PGCE in mathmatics ie qualified teacher - never used it. I'm the most qualified barman you'll ever meet |
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I loved the logic behind the union jack patent. The punter's not going to want to look a mug by doing a straightforward union jack, where 5 of your 9 selections could win and not get a penny back. So instead he turns each treble into a patent and ends up betting seven times as much, just to prove what a shrewdie he is.
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Yeah - you've got up early, bought your racing post, studied hard all morning and come up with just the 9 sure fire winners.
Now how should I stake that?  |
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bookies didnt open until 10am pre fobt, so you had to buy your own paper
not much study to get 9 hosses 3 willie carson, 3 pat eddery ( stick them in a diagonal through the middle), and 3 cecil shorties twas even more fun writing placepots for 7 different bank holiday meetings on the same slip, ..,the settlers never liked that! |
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I suppose it's a bit of an arms race. Years ago not so many people went to uni and got a Batchelors, and an M* was for someone who wanted to specialise OR go to academia. Now everyone and their dog is doing a degree (often dumbed down and pointless) so to differentiate in the market and MSc is more appearling.
So now it's often the case that rather being a bolt on, the actual degree is a Masters from the outset. If you do a degree in something useful and then work in that sector, they are of course very useful things. |
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you can buy them on line now,name your collage as well,and they are real,stolen certs that they fill your name in.and impossible to detect as unreal,because they are real,but they cost a few bob,but they will get you the job you want.
 and if you want to impress your friends they will frame them for you to hang on the wall. |
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They are not just a cert of course, there is a paper trail that can be checked. Of course you can get made up crap worthless qualifications or qualifications from made up institutions, the G5 conspiracy nut threads are littered with "experts" with them.
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