i think they went for the weather tbf. my old man goes out for 3 months in the winter. he voted to leave, he won't admit it but he is regretting it. none of you will admit it, but i know many are regretting it. such a big decision decided by so few brain cells
i think they went for the weather tbf. my old man goes out for 3 months in the winter.he voted to leave, he won't admit it but he is regretting it. none of you will admitit, but i know many are regretting it. such a big decision decided by so few bra
The Brain Cell problem was Cameron's The vote should never have gone to the People
He did not realise the extent of peoples feelings regarding the State of The UK ..
Regarding Immigration the horse had already bolted and is in another county , regarding being Part of the EU
Have a look at the state that is in ,If we go no deal , we wont be the Last. Unemployment figures are at the 1/10
level in both Italy and France ,Spain above that ..
The Brain Cell problem was Cameron's The vote should never have gone to the People He did not realise the extent of peoples feelings regarding the State of The UK ..Regarding Immigration the horse had already bolted and is in another county , rega
A lad at work has had place in Spain for a few years last week he moved over there on a permanent basis he is white in his 50s a fair ruddy complextion and a stuanch remainer, I told he was the wrong demographic to vote remain
A lad at work has had place in Spain for a few years last week he moved over there on a permanent basis he is white in his 50s a fair ruddy complextion and a stuanch remainer, I told he was the wrong demographic to vote remain
it is dole scroungers like me you want to give abuse to actually have not signed on since the 1980's. it was so easy then. vans pulled up at the dole office with ladders on top, guys in work gear got out signed on then went back to work, crazy days
it is dole scroungers like me you want to give abuse toactually have not signed on since the 1980's. it was so easy then.vans pulled up at the dole office with ladders on top, guys in workgear got out signed on then went back to work, crazy days
One of the most uttered lies spoken by the older generation. When they paid in they were expected to live to approx 68-70 years of age. Todays reality is they will live to be at least 80+, so instead of claiming pension, health, care, etc for the anticipated 3-5 years, they will be claiming (taking out of the system without now paying in) for 15/20+ years rather than the 3/5 years that was anticipated.
Obviously it's just a huge Ponzi scheme but the people that say "I paid in all my life" are in reality relying on their children, grandchildren and quite probably great grandchildren.
Some actuary somewhere needs shooting but that is the reality. It is also the reason that nearly all company pensions have been closed and are many, many billions in deficit.
I imagine the actuaries that failed to spot this or act in time are sitting on a beach somewhere telling anyone that will listen "I paid in all my life"!
northanlite - "they paid in, seems fair"One of the most uttered lies spoken by the older generation. When they paid in they were expected to live to approx 68-70 years of age. Todays reality is they will live to be at least 80+, so instead of claimin
hardly their fault if they paid what was asked of them
had they been qualified actuaries rather than shop workers or factory workers or miners or salesmen they may have been better placed to point out to the government at the time that higher deductions should have been taken
the government with its constant urge to reduce taxes to win votes must also take blame for mess along with the actuaries who were probably doing their bidding.
we must look after our old folk in the manner we would wish for ourselves to be looked after.
hardly their fault if they paid what was asked of themhad they been qualified actuaries rather than shop workers or factory workersor miners or salesmen they may have been better placed to point out to the governmentat the time that higher deductions
I generally agree with your post donny. Looking after the old is one of the true measures of a civilised society.
I'm no spring chicken myself but i cringe whenever I hear old men boasting of paying in all their life when in reality the grandchild they are lecturing will be footing the bill, as that grandchild REALLY will be paying in ALL of his life with little prospect of any payback when he retires at 78!
It is indeed down to successive governments and a direct result of Party Politics. Like all of the biggest problems in society a long-term plan/solution is required - but Party Politics is not conducive to long-term planning or lasting solutions.
I generally agree with your post donny. Looking after the old is one of the true measures of a civilised society. I'm no spring chicken myself but i cringe whenever I hear old men boasting of paying in all their life when in reality the grandchild th
In countries that kept good records from 1200 - 1745 21 yr olds would reach an average age of between 62 and 70 yrs
In Victorian times female 73 male 75
Working class today about 72 men 76 women
It’s not true that people are living longer In countries that kept good records from 1200 - 1745 21 yr olds would reach an average age of between 62 and 70 yrsIn Victorian times female 73 male 75Working class today about 72 men 76 women
The problem today is not caused by people living longer , it is caused by people not leaving school until they are close the 30, millions going to university when in the past they would have started with at 16 That’s the problem
The problem today is not caused by people living longer , it is caused by people not leaving school until they are close the 30, millions going to university when in the past they would have started with at 16 That’s the problem
You see the older generations did put in the work., they put in 50 years of work Served the time , that is not something young people do today That’s the problem right there
You see the older generations did put in the work., they put in 50 years of work Served the time , that is not something young people do today That’s the problem right there
...and yet we do little to educate folk to expect to pay for the pension they will deserve
then again governments expect folk to spend and not save for themselves, as spending is relied upon by government.
...and yet we do little to educate folk to expect to pay for the pension they will deservethen again governments expect folk to spend and not save for themselves, as spending is reliedupon by government.
lfc - sorry but the fact that people are living longer isn't really up for debate - its a good thing (lifestyle, medical advances etc) - but it is a fact. Another fact (although I agree too many are going to Uni), i think you will find they leave Uni at about 21/22 rather than 30.
Re Older generations - your comment "They put in 50 years of work, served the time" That's just not true either I'm afraid. The norm back then was that one of them may have "served the time", but most typically for people that are now into retirement - one partner stayed home with children. You will probably find that on average they put in "50 years of work" between them, so 25 years each on average - but both entitled to a state pension, both in need of healthcare etc.There are exceptions but i think you would struggle to find many couples that are of pension age today where each of them "put in 50 years work".
lfc - sorry but the fact that people are living longer isn't really up for debate - its a good thing (lifestyle, medical advances etc) - but it is a fact. Another fact (although I agree too many are going to Uni), i think you will find they leave Uni
I’m sorry those are the facts regarding life expectancy
Are there more 75 year olds ? Yes the population is greater , but of course that also means that they worked paying taxes ( in theory )
Yes in the past married women may not have worked and in theory today more so That bag or may not be true , but again if true then it should be easier to pay for pensions today
Not harder
I’m sorry those are the facts regarding life expectancy Are there more 75 year olds ? Yes the population is greater , but of course that also means that they worked paying taxes ( in theory )Yes in the past married women may not have worked and in
The norm back then was for almost everyone to leave school at 16 possibly 14and start work And men would not finish until they had put in 50 years of work Women started work until married and children (then often worked part time or full time
The norm back then was for almost everyone to leave school at 16 possibly 14and start work And men would not finish until they had put in 50 years of work Women started work until married and children (then often worked part time or full time
ok lfc - it seems you are correct, people aren't living longer, all the old folk of today did 50+ years down the pit from the age of 14 and all the current issues in society have been caused by the lazy youth of today, lolling around in Uni until they are 30.
It was good talking with you.
ok lfc - it seems you are correct, people aren't living longer, all the old folk of today did 50+ years down the pit from the age of 14 and all the current issues in society have been caused by the lazy youth of today, lolling around in Uni until the
Mr Management - I think you might find it easier on yourself joining the dozens of others who have simply blocked the fool. You just can't get any sense out of him and trying to engage is completely futile.
Mr Management - I think you might find it easier on yourself joining the dozens of others who have simply blocked the fool. You just can't get any sense out of him and trying to engage is completely futile.
You dont stop paying tax when you retire from work. The big problem here is those well educated types in tax funded jobs who use underhanded tricks to avoid tax how many people who are not PAYE pay their full share?
You dont stop paying tax when you retire from work.The big problem here is those well educated types in tax funded jobs who use underhanded tricks to avoid tax how many people who are not PAYE pay their full share?
Don’t worry little snowflakes I have only to make it to March and Brexit ( if i don’t get banned before then : )
and then you will have to think for yourselves , just a little bit That includes you the management
Don’t worry little snowflakes I have only to make it to March and Brexit ( if i don’t get banned before then : ) and then you will have to think for yourselves , just a little bitThat includes you the management
ffs lfc - I was ambivalent on Brexit but now you say it's gonna deprive us of your well thought out views, wit and wisdom?
As the average 30 year old graduate would no doubt say "Bruv, so i am like literally like gutted like".
ffs lfc - I was ambivalent on Brexit but now you say it's gonna deprive us of your well thought out views, wit and wisdom? As the average 30 year old graduate would no doubt say "Bruv, so i am like literally like gutted like".
nonsense the management its got nothing to do with brexit or myself but whether you are capable of thinking for youself or not You may be , anythings possible? But there is no evidence of that so far
if you wish to look at brexit, well you say you are ambivalent, but you are not unless of course you didn't vote
If you did vote, and voted remain Well that's just another little sign that you cant think for yourself, remainers are like that
how did you vote as a matter of interest ?, assuming you did
nonsense the management its got nothing to do with brexit or myself but whether you are capable of thinking for youself or notYou may be , anythings possible?But there is no evidence of that so farif you wish to look at brexit, well you say you are a
Thanks for your guidance lfc, I can see now that I was only ambivalent on Brexit because it hadn't been explained to me properly. With your guidance I have now been able weigh up all of the facts and I am no longer ambivalent. Your work here is done.
You can go back to your village, I think they have a vacancy.
Thanks for your guidance lfc, I can see now that I was only ambivalent on Brexit because it hadn't been explained to me properly. With your guidance I have now been able weigh up all of the facts and I am no longer ambivalent. Your work here is done.
its true we hardly ever agreed !!!! but I liked you,I,m like that and you are like that. isn't it strange
when Montaigne was asked why someone was his friend he replied "Because he is who he is , and I am who I am"
something like that, in French of course
Thanks pa lapsy who could deny that ?its true we hardly ever agreed !!!!but I liked you,I,m like that and you are like that. isn't it strangewhen Montaigne was asked why someone was his friend he replied"Because he is who he is , and I am who I am"so
lfc you are in great form as ever, you need a bigger net sir
anything's possible i read it somewhere.
who would deny that?
lfc should have his own column in private eye
lfc you are in great form as ever, you need a bigger net sir anything's possible i read it somewhere.who would deny that? lfc should have his own column in private eye
if you were locked in a room with him in negotiations i bet it wouldnt take long for you to give him everything he wanted, anything just so you didnt have to listen to the 'pearls of wisdom' any longer than absolutely necessary.
he reminds me of the great peter cook creation 'sven from swiss cottage', it takes a rare talent to come up with the complete rubbish he regurgitates on here day after day. for me the ridiculousness of it all is a thing of wonder.
if you were locked in a room with him in negotiations i bet it wouldnt take long for you to give him everything he wanted, anything just so you didnt have to listen to the 'pearls of wisdom' any longer than absolutely necessary.he reminds me of the g
He certainly had me in his net - but now that i take a step back i can see the funny side. He's up there with the comedy greats like Brendan O'Carroll, Nish Kumar and that fat lass from Newcastle that makes jokes about cake -
He certainly had me in his net - but now that i take a step back i can see the funny side. He's up there with the comedy greats like Brendan O'Carroll, Nish Kumar and that fat lass from Newcastle that makes jokes about cake -
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the expats. Many are generally quick to bad mouth Britain as their excuse for living in the sun. They made their beds.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the expats. Many are generally quick to bad mouth Britain as their excuse for living in the sun. They made their beds.