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Libellous thread has gone and so has crankyhead....just checked !
Feb 7, 2019 -- 9:22AM, The Leopard wrote:
Libellous thread has gone and so has crankyhead....just checked !
How can you tell crankyhead has gone?
Hope he hasn't been banned,free speech is a must,although he made a mistake to name someone I believe
I'm trying to think of someone he didn't name.
Feb 7, 2019 -- 10:14AM, politicspunter wrote:
Feb 7, 2019 -- 9:22AM, The Leopard wrote:Libellous thread has gone and so has crankyhead....just checked !How can you tell crankyhead has gone?
Search his name, user at top comes out...click on it....goes nowhere
Feb 7, 2019 -- 10:19AM, terry mccann wrote:
Hope he hasn't been banned,free speech is a must,although he made a mistake to name someone I believe
Thread title was libellous.....there is no evidence JC has had anything to do with what was mentioned.
So which low-life phoned and got him banned then? You are pathetic!
They all have a finger in the pie, A number of senior Labour Party politicians were linked in newspaper stories to PIE in December 2013, and again in February 2014, as a result of their involvement with the NCCL at the time of PIE's affiliation. The party's deputy leader, Harriet Harman, had been employed by NCCL as an in-house solicitor and met her husband, the MP Jack Dromey, then a member of NCCL's executive committee, while working in this capacity. In addition, Patricia Hewitt was NCCL's general secretary for nine years. The former chair of PIE, Tom O'Carroll, claimed the three had not attempted to expel PIE out of fear for the impact this might have on their careers at the NCCL.[47]
Harman denied she had supported PIE while at NCCL and the specific allegation that she supported a campaign for the age of consent to be reduced to 10, and expressed regret at the involvement of the NCCL with PIE.[48][49][50] Dromey also denied the accusations.[51] Hewitt apologised separately, saying she had been "naive and wrong to accept that PIE was a counseling and campaign group".[52]
In June 2015, documents emerged as a result of a BBC freedom of information request that revealed the then Conservative Home Secretary, Leon Brittan, refused to support a bill designed to outlaw PIE because he considered the law on incitement of sexual activities with children to be "not so clear".[53][54]
On 19 July 2015, Australia's 60 Minutes broadcast an investigation of an alleged paedophile ring, into which abused children were supplied by one of PIE's founders, Peter Righton, who was also a former director of education in the National Institute for Social Work. The alleged network was said to include senior public figures such as Lord Janner and Sir Cyril Smith, alongside a former head of MI6, Sir Peter Telford Hayman.[55]
Harman denied she had supported PIE while at NCCL and the specific allegation that she supported a campaign for the age of consent to be reduced to 10, and expressed regret at the involvement of the NCCL with PIE.[48][49][50] Dromey also denied the accusations.[51] Hewitt apologised separately, saying she had been "naive and wrong to accept that PIE was a counseling and campaign group".[52]
In June 2015, documents emerged as a result of a BBC freedom of information request that revealed the then Conservative Home Secretary, Leon Brittan, refused to support a bill designed to outlaw PIE because he considered the law on incitement of sexual activities with children to be "not so clear".[53][54]
On 19 July 2015, Australia's 60 Minutes broadcast an investigation of an alleged paedophile ring, into which abused children were supplied by one of PIE's founders, Peter Righton, who was also a former director of education in the National Institute for Social Work. The alleged network was said to include senior public figures such as Lord Janner and Sir Cyril Smith, alongside a former head of MI6, Sir Peter Telford Hayman.[55]
Feb 7, 2019 -- 10:22AM, The Leopard wrote:
Feb 7, 2019 -- 10:14AM, politicspunter wrote:Feb 7, 2019 -- 9:22AM, The Leopard wrote:Libellous thread has gone and so has crankyhead....just checked !How can you tell crankyhead has gone?Search his name, user at top comes out...click on it....goes nowhere
Thank you
Feb 7, 2019 -- 10:27AM, terry mccann wrote:
So which low-life phoned and got him banned then? You are pathetic!
Wasn't me...I was thinking about it though.
Wiki :
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Harman
Paedophile Information Exchange allegations and response[edit]
In February 2014, Harman denied allegations that she had supported the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) when the advocacy group was affiliated with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), while she was the pressure group's Legal Officer from 1978 to 1982. Both the Daily Mail and The Daily Telegraph also claimed that Jack Dromey MP (her partner) and former Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt had offered support to apologists for the sexual abuse of children while they were working for NCCL.
The Guardian also states that in an NCCL briefing note dated 1978, Harman urged amendments to a 1978 Child Protection Bill declaring that "images of children should only be considered pornographic if it could be proven the subject suffered", which Harman says was an argument intended to protect from "unintended consequences" such as parents being prosecuted for taking pictures of their children on the beach or in the bath.[65]
In a television interview, Harman said she had "nothing to apologise for," stating "I very much regret that this vile organisation, PIE, ever existed and that it ever had anything to do with NCCL, but it did not affect my work at NCCL."[66] Harman stated that while she did support the equalisation of the age of consent for gay men she had never campaigned for the age of consent to go below the age of 16 and accused the Daily Mail of trying to make her "guilty by way of association",.[67]
Documents subsequently discovered by The Guardian contradicted her claim; Harman's name appears on a March 1976 NCCL press which states "NCCL proposes that the age of consent should be lowered to 14, with special provision for situations where the partners are close in age, or where consent of a child over ten can be proved."[68] Ed Miliband backed Harman and stated that she had "huge decency and integrity".[67]
The Daily Telegraph cast doubt on her assertion that the PIE had been "pushed to the margins" before Harman had joined the NCCL.[69]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Harman
Paedophile Information Exchange allegations and response[edit]
In February 2014, Harman denied allegations that she had supported the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE) when the advocacy group was affiliated with the National Council for Civil Liberties (NCCL), while she was the pressure group's Legal Officer from 1978 to 1982. Both the Daily Mail and The Daily Telegraph also claimed that Jack Dromey MP (her partner) and former Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt had offered support to apologists for the sexual abuse of children while they were working for NCCL.
The Guardian also states that in an NCCL briefing note dated 1978, Harman urged amendments to a 1978 Child Protection Bill declaring that "images of children should only be considered pornographic if it could be proven the subject suffered", which Harman says was an argument intended to protect from "unintended consequences" such as parents being prosecuted for taking pictures of their children on the beach or in the bath.[65]
In a television interview, Harman said she had "nothing to apologise for," stating "I very much regret that this vile organisation, PIE, ever existed and that it ever had anything to do with NCCL, but it did not affect my work at NCCL."[66] Harman stated that while she did support the equalisation of the age of consent for gay men she had never campaigned for the age of consent to go below the age of 16 and accused the Daily Mail of trying to make her "guilty by way of association",.[67]
Documents subsequently discovered by The Guardian contradicted her claim; Harman's name appears on a March 1976 NCCL press which states "NCCL proposes that the age of consent should be lowered to 14, with special provision for situations where the partners are close in age, or where consent of a child over ten can be proved."[68] Ed Miliband backed Harman and stated that she had "huge decency and integrity".[67]
The Daily Telegraph cast doubt on her assertion that the PIE had been "pushed to the margins" before Harman had joined the NCCL.[69]
The Leopard 07 Feb 19 10:22
Search his name, user at top comes out...click on it....goes nowhere
Tried that with The Leopard and saw "This user has no recent activity"
Interesting.........
Search his name, user at top comes out...click on it....goes nowhere
Tried that with The Leopard and saw "This user has no recent activity"
Interesting.........
That comes up if you select some setting I think ?
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