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trilby22
30 Jan 19 18:36
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Why is he not our PM?

https://www.westmonster.com/nigel-no-deal-is-better-than-the-backstop/

Check vid particularly from 2mins 33secs
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Report saddo January 30, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
I had the news on with no sound, who was the bloke in glasses shouting at him?
Report themightymac January 30, 2019 6:38 PM GMT
He is a great orator, there is no question of that, but so was Hitler.
Report saddo January 30, 2019 6:40 PM GMT
Martin Luther King also.
Report Mr Eboue January 30, 2019 6:41 PM GMT
Quite a simple reason really:

Farage has stood for election to the House of Commons seven times, in five general elections and two by-elections, but has not won any of those elections.
Report trilby22 January 30, 2019 6:44 PM GMT
Verhofstadt, saddo?  Now there's a proper nanzi for you!

I've only heard his outburst but not seen it yet.
Report trilby22 January 30, 2019 6:45 PM GMT
Is Nige not talking perfect sense though, Mac?
Report LAMBETH WALK January 30, 2019 6:46 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2019 -- 6:38PM, saddo wrote:


I had the news on with no sound, who was the bloke in glasses shouting at him?


It was Studyform Laugh

Report InsiderTrader January 30, 2019 6:46 PM GMT
Farage has been an elected MEP for a couple of decades.

If there was PR in this country he would be an MP.

Very hard for a new party to get an MP in our broken system.
Report twizzle22 January 30, 2019 6:50 PM GMT
Superb speech by Nigel.Whatever you might think of him the guy sure has gravitas in spades.
Report themightymac January 30, 2019 6:51 PM GMT
I haven`t seen the video trilby, so I can`t comment.
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 6:51 PM GMT
20 years drawing a wage and expenses from the EU, and says he,d stand again if scenario came about, sounds like the original undisputed number 1 reluctant remainer, LaughLaugh
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 6:52 PM GMT
men with gravitas don't lose 9 elections, if that helps
Report trilby22 January 30, 2019 6:52 PM GMT
Worth watching Mac.  Only last 3 1/3 mins. 

I should have said nearer 2:25 than 2mins 33secs in my op
Report trilby22 January 30, 2019 6:53 PM GMT
^ but the whole speech is very good.
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 6:55 PM GMT
he.s like the old bloke sat in the same corner of the pub 7 afternoons/nights a week for 20 years moaning about the beer,and when asked why doesn't he go to the pub down the road the beer,s better,says its cheaper in here, Laugh
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 6:59 PM GMT
argh nigel,i saw a nigel getting interviewed on tv on reff night when it looked like remain had won,when asked if that's it will he retire said no I,ll , keep on campaigning to leave the EU, wonder whatever happened to him, shame really if he,d hung around he,d have been known as a leavemoaner
Report saddo January 30, 2019 7:16 PM GMT
Good speech. If only we had a negotiator who would stand among them and speak like that, instead of the craven wimps we sent.
Report Dr Crippen January 30, 2019 7:18 PM GMT
When Farage mentioned leaving and adopting WTO rules under the terms of Article 24, he was met with stony silence from the EU stonewallers.

Which could indicate that they still believe Brexit can be averted. And it's now or never.
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 7:26 PM GMT
the auld wto rulers that most of the world trade on ,which in reality no one above 3rd rate tin pot countries trade on
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 7:33 PM GMT
if wto rules are so good why are most brexiteers desperate to sign trade deals to get out of them if most of the world they tell us trade on them
and if its so easy to move on to wto rules why are the hardline brexiteers standing by the malthouse compromise which says we should pay their hated EU  extra money on top of their hated 39 billion to get an extra year on top of the non excistent 2 year transition under no deal,meaning the likes of farage,hardline brexiteers think it will take 3 years to sort out trade deal after leaving on wto terms
some fool might ask if wto is so good why pay extra to get of them , how many go under in those 3 yeard
Report Dr Crippen January 30, 2019 7:48 PM GMT
Look up Article 24 of the WTO rules 1tp.

It gives us at least two years grace to sort out an arrangement on present EU terms

The situation would also concentrate minds into working out a deal, instead of this will they won't they leave if we stand firm, as being practised currently by the EU.
Report edy January 30, 2019 7:53 PM GMT
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-wto/trade-experts-dismiss-brexiteers-faith-in-obscure-wto-clause-idUSKCN1PH24V

The article described here?
Report moisok January 30, 2019 8:04 PM GMT
they want our money

they are crying into their microphones in central control

german production slowing down dramatically

macron the poodle - his people revolting ho ho

youth unemployment exported to those who can do little about it

nice happy family
Report edy January 30, 2019 8:08 PM GMT
If I understand you correctly, Dr. Crippen, you are supposing that the EU is betting on the UK not leaving if a withdrawal agreement can not be reached and Brexit would end up being no-deal.

Why then are you convinced that the EU will agree to submitting the paperwork for an interims phase? Wouldn't they just go "nah, we we ain't signing that. We think you'll come back if we don't because you fear a no-deal."
Report InsiderTrader January 30, 2019 8:19 PM GMT
edy sounds like he is in favour the EU tactics.
Report Dr Crippen January 30, 2019 8:19 PM GMT
It would be too late to go back if we've already left. And minds could concentrate on meaningful negotiations.

Why shouldn't the EU want to come to a trading arrangement, which would be better for both parties than trading on bare WTO rules once we're out?
Report trilby22 January 30, 2019 8:25 PM GMT
That's far too sensible, Dr C.
Report Dr Crippen January 30, 2019 8:26 PM GMT
It's the last chance saloon for many of the EU MPs if we crash out with their elections coming up soon after we leave.

They have to tell their voters why they haven't come to a suitable arrangement with the UK, if their trading is going to suffer as a result of what looks like a gamble on averting Brexit.
Report edy January 30, 2019 8:27 PM GMT
IT, that would necessitate that I even think those are the "EU tactics".

Dr. Crippen: Ah, so no deal and the UK gambling on the EU agreeing to that interims phase. Maybe, we'll see. I don't think Article 24 will be used in that scenario however.
Report edy January 30, 2019 8:29 PM GMT
It's the last chance saloon for many of the EU MPs if we crash out with their elections coming up soon after we leave.

They have to tell their voters why they haven't come to a suitable arrangement with the UK, if their trading is going to suffer as a result of what looks like a gamble on averting Brexit.


Most people on the continent understand that the UK has been batting for unicorns and that's who will primarily be blamed for not having come to a suitable arrangement.
Report InsiderTrader January 30, 2019 8:31 PM GMT
The EU making arrangements for if there is a 'no deal' Brexit to keep no hard border in Ireland.

Looks like they are suggesting a technology based solution.
Report edy January 30, 2019 8:32 PM GMT
Just waiting for moisok to announce it's actually about the EU Army being sent to Northern Ireland to annex it.
Report Dr Crippen January 30, 2019 8:34 PM GMT
If they EU don't want to implement Article 24, there's no reason why we can't work out a trading arrangement after we leave.  That's if the EU want one, but I somehow think they will.
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 8:43 PM GMT
every arrangement outside the EU makes uk worse off but you seem confident any uk party opposing the reff result would be punished at the polls,so why would EU countries punish their m,s for protecting their single market,rees mogg predicting  50 years before uk see,s any benefit from Brexit, so as all EU people say today short term shock today small price to pay for protecting single market access for next 50 years
you just cant see the argument from both sides,you havnt left on no problem wto rules yet but clinging on a 2 year liferaft of staying on the same terms were on now
till the inks dry on any contract I,d take with a pinch of salt any words surrounding
wto rules
free trade agreements
2 years stay of execution etc
Report Dr Crippen January 30, 2019 9:13 PM GMT
When we joined the Common Market, three years later as members we reaped the benefits of membership by asking the IMF for a loan to tide us over because we were broke.
Some good it did us being in the EU then.

The UK will get on fine outside of the EU. Just like the rest of the world does that isn't in the EU.
Report macarony January 30, 2019 9:30 PM GMT
Will Corbyn get behind May's  deal? Only needs a just over a hundred labour mps and it is through. He tried for GE but failef he said he does not want a no deal. So I thi k this will be his plan B
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 9:35 PM GMT
how many left a trading block of 600 million people and ripped up 60 free trade deals as they left,before having any outside of those signed up or ready to sign, before her troubles 2 weeks ago may and fox were going to big up a deal with new Zealand as a biggee
Report 1st time poster January 30, 2019 9:37 PM GMT
LOL may would have armed guards stopping labour mp,s going into lobby with the tories over tory brerxiteers,they,d be finished for ever
Report The Leopard January 30, 2019 9:48 PM GMT
Farage and Trump are being told what to do and funded by Putin....enough said !
Report The Leopard January 30, 2019 9:49 PM GMT
He has the videos !
Report trilby22 February 2, 2019 9:45 AM GMT
https://www.westmonster.com/2-million-views-in-24-hours-for-farage-defence-of-uk-despite-mainstream-blackout/
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Have the BBC shown anything about this yet?
Report Dr Crippen February 2, 2019 11:15 AM GMT
The BBC as usual are preventing the truth coming out.

Which is incredible way for a publicly funded organisation to act in a democracy. They resemble an organisation within a totalitarian society.

What is comical is when they accuse other countries like Russia and China of suppressing the news, when the BBC do exactly that themselves while pretending to be impartial.
Report doridoru February 2, 2019 12:08 PM GMT
abs spot on from Farage, and the BBC are a disgrace
Report Early Morning Riser February 2, 2019 12:24 PM GMT
And the BBC are upping the licence fee by £4 this year.
Report nellie1970 February 2, 2019 12:34 PM GMT
he was on with louder with crowder yesterday saying the same thing about the bbc.

interview starts at 30 mins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khldT24FBEg
Report doridoru February 2, 2019 12:48 PM GMT
brilliant
Report doridoru February 2, 2019 12:49 PM GMT
bbc more reports every day about Venezuela but never about France, thats all you need to know, dont want to report on trouble in macrons eu etc.
Report Dr Crippen February 2, 2019 7:47 PM GMT
''Groundhog Day results 2019: No shadow! Phil predicts early spring is coming.''

Which is something else the BBC have failed to report!
Report Pokermonster February 2, 2019 7:59 PM GMT
Dr C's post of 11:15 is entirely correct. The BBC ceased to be a credible news source many years ago, continually flouting the rules of their charter regards impartiality.

I welcome a £4.00 rise in the licence fee, however. That's another few quid saved at least. :)
Report trilby22 February 4, 2019 7:53 PM GMT
https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/speech-to-parliament-gone-viral/
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4,000,000+ views & still nowt from the Brussels Broadcasting Corruption Sad
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