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23 Jan 19
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Pedowood, plumb new depths with new film Detainment.
Film made about the killing of toddler Jamie Bulger by two other children.
Film made without the permission of the dead childs mother.
The mother called for a boycott of the film and for it not to be nominated for an Oscar.
90,000 right minded people signed a petition for the film not to be nominated for an Oscar, was nominated anyway by folk in Hollyweird.
Looney left celebs and politicians tweeting congratulations on Oscar nomination with total disregard to the greiving parents.
Hollyweird sicko's only last week openly thanking Satan for their success at the Golden Globe Awards.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46964691
Hooray for Hollywood.................not
Film made about the killing of toddler Jamie Bulger by two other children.
Film made without the permission of the dead childs mother.
The mother called for a boycott of the film and for it not to be nominated for an Oscar.
90,000 right minded people signed a petition for the film not to be nominated for an Oscar, was nominated anyway by folk in Hollyweird.
Looney left celebs and politicians tweeting congratulations on Oscar nomination with total disregard to the greiving parents.
Hollyweird sicko's only last week openly thanking Satan for their success at the Golden Globe Awards.
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46964691
Hooray for Hollywood.................not
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This should be unbelievable, but we've come to expect stuff like this unfortunately.
Everyone involved in this film should be utterly ashamed. |
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There was a documentary on this last year...I think it was channel 5.
Certainly the most difficult crime I have heard of in my lifetime. The cruelty of the crime itself and of course the age of the killers. Children this young do not commit such acts, how do you punish them? This film company should have contacted Jamie Bulger's mother on this. Any attempt to humanize Jamie Bulger's killers will tear her apart. There may be away of telling and explaining this one day, but it does not sound if this film does it. My sympathies are with Jamie Bolger's mother here. |
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Perhaps this film or any film on this very difficult crime, should not be made until after the death of
Jamie Bolger's mother. |
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One thing I remember from that documentary was how out of control these children were before this act.
They were doing pretty well anything they wanted to, there seemed no control from either parents or school. They may well have felt invincible. Now I am doing what the film is, any discussion of this hurts Jamie Bolger's mother. It must wait until after she has did. |
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NOT WHEN THEIR IS MONEY TOO BE MAID ho ho
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It is not that simple.
Yes, the mother is rightly upset, and no, it is unlikely that this film will add much to the sum of human knowledge. But where does it end? Saving Private Ryan? Schindler's List? Titanic? The families of victims are never consulted. The next series of The Crown, we are told, will cover Aberfan, where over 100 children died. I don't know what the answer is. On the whole, it might be better if the film had never been made, but now that it has, I don't want grieving relatives, however sincere, however deep their pain, to act as censors. |
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I have always been in favour of appropriate punishment - now we no longer have it - this is the result
do you see how it works |
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and that is just for the film makers
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The film has the good reviews....I do not think that subject matter would affect judgements for an Oscar
. These boys committed a heinous crime...but they were 10 years old. They were detained in a secure institution, until released in 2001. It is difficult to punish 10 year old boys. But I feel their punishment was too lenient. I feel they should been detained until they were 30, 10 years of which should have been spent in an adult prison. It would have not have been very pleasant for them in an adult prion but the other prisoners would have left them in no doubt of the heinousness of their crimes. Then released with new identities, etc. This way they would have also lost some of their youth. But could start again at 30. just my own opinion. |
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no - I mean the film makers
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I do have sympathy with Jamie Bolger's mother, it is not just the tragic loss of her son here
It is the feeling she must have that those responsible have somehow got away with it, because of their age. I can sympathize with this, she still feels the injustice of it all. |
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I would not watch that film ever, to me it beggars belief that the film makers thought it to be an appropriate subject to produce a film about a crime that shocked the world.
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UR; you need to read about the further exploits of one the convicted beaasts (others whereabouts unknown & well hid) he's back in jail after being caught with indecent images of children! And not for the first time, may i add. Time has not helped or changed this particular monster, & now he can watch himself being portrayed on screen in a film tipped for an Oscar
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One of em has proved a sexual wrong un twice since release, who knows what the other gets up to. Should have been put down for public safety.
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Irony of ironies being that the killer boys were supposed to have watched a horror film Childs Play that their parents had rented out and mimiced/copied what the main character Chucky did from what I recall anyway.
They had been influenced by the film which I presume had an 18s rating. So lets make a film of this child killing now, whats the worst that could happen ? No one ever said in Holly/Paedowood. |
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I think a lot of children watch adult films they are not supposed to...they do not usually go out and copy it.
I watched Physco under age, I did not immediately start to stab women in showers. This was an evil crime normally committed by adults but committed by children. This has completely thrown us. One way round this we may have used in the past, was to diagnose both these children insane. It is argued one of them is psychopathic anyway so why not have both children in under that. I know 10 year old boys are not saints, but they don't normally kill babies! The advantage of the psychopathic diagnose is they would have been committed to a secure children's mental establishment, and at 18 transferred to an adults secure mental establishment, we can hold them as long we like. If we ever think they are safe let them out, but at the first sign of wrongdoing back they come. Still we did not this , so much not more we can say.I have not seen this film and would hope they have not sensationalised it to make money, as Moisock suspects. Serious books and documentaries on this I approve of. I may watch it on utube if I can, but I don't know, it is a hard one this |
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Sorry Jamie Bolger was 2 not a baby, makes it worse, thinking what he went through from this pair of sadists.
I think there may also be a case here of these two boys feeding off each other. They were both essentially evil and wanted to do this sort of thing, but needed the other to bring it out so they could actually do it. There have been other recorded cases of this. In fact I think this may have happened with Brady and Hindley, quite the two most evil people in my lifetine. Althought that chap in Norway Breivik who massacred an island of young people is not far behibnd, he did that in cold blood, no spur of the moment, incredible that man is still alive. |
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Will they make a film about Breivik ?
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Simply inexcusable that the parents weren't told a film was being made about their childs murder,shameful by the Irish director.
I think it is distasteful,it is only recent history and too many still suffer, certainly won't be seeing it myself and sincerely hope it flops. |
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would have to agree pa
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He wormed his way through his interview on the news,i thought(rightly or wrongly) there was little empathy there and it was all about his film. (my impression only)
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Correction there is a Breivik movie 22 July made last year
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solid & correct, pa
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Yes saw that interview, visibly shifting in his chair when asked the tough questions.
Any publicity is good publicity to these greedy, amoral, degenerate barstewards |
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The more controversial a film is the more publicity the director gets
I can not make a judgement on it until I watch it. He should not have made this film without consulting the mother of Jamie Bulger first |
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Bolger sorry
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i'd rather watch a 2 hour webcam of Leadsom & May
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 oh noI do not want to watch it, I probably won't But it is difficult to comment on anything without seeing it This Director is out to make his name Je does not mind who gets hurt in the process Baphornet |
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it's a personal choice. I hate censorship; but i couldn't watch it
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Nor me Baphornet, I could not possibly watch that film.
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burn the master tape
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Well said Pa Lapsy. Absolutely disgraceful. Everybody should boycott it.
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Words cannot adequately describe the contempt in which I hold the director of this film. Ditto everybody else involved in its production.
But worse yet, if that is even possible, is the fact that it has now been nominated for an academy award. What the hell were the committee thinking? Did not a single member raise any of the obvious concerns? Dear God, they must possess the collective moral rectitude of a rattlesnake. Can you imagine if it wins? The optics of that insufferable **** smugly walking up on stage would be tough to bear. |
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I think even worse is the film being described as a sympathetic look at the 2 murderers.
I wouldn't watch it either. |
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Well the shape of water was nominated last year and its about bestiality, art for arts sake ,money for fecks sake.
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I think even worse is the film being described as a sympathetic look at the 2 murderers.
I wouldn't watch it either. akabula They were a little of sadists If they were older say mid teens +, they would have had a minimum of 20 - 30 years. I still think they should have got 20 myself, but we found it too difficult as they were only ten. Still I think they will always be looking over their shoulders. Pictures of them do appear from time to time, even though it is illegal to show them. One thing they cannot change their DNA. I would hope they have remorse for the terrible thing they did, but who knows? |
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little pair
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