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salmon spray
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"Brexit would be by far the best thing for the UK"
And..er...btw we're off to Singapore
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Report STATSMAN January 22, 2019 11:37 PM GMT
Link please salmon
Report salmon spray January 22, 2019 11:38 PM GMT
All over the news STATS.
Report STATSMAN January 22, 2019 11:38 PM GMT
No worries, found it
Report STATSMAN January 22, 2019 11:41 PM GMT
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46962093
Report salmon spray January 22, 2019 11:42 PM GMT
Thanks shearer.   Grin
Report STATSMAN January 22, 2019 11:43 PM GMT
Grin - Welcome
Report akabula January 22, 2019 11:49 PM GMT
From the BBC report

Dyson has announced that it is moving its headquarters to Singapore, from Malmesbury in Wiltshire.
The move by the appliance maker means two executives will relocate - chief financial officer Jorn Jensen and chief legal officer Martin Bowen.
Other work at Malmesbury will not be affected and no jobs will be lost.


Chief executive Jim Rowan said it was not to do with Brexit or tax but added: "It's to make us future-proof for where we see the biggest opportunities."

He added: "We have seen an acceleration of opportunities to grow the company from a revenue perspective in Asia. We have always had a revenue stream there and will be putting up our best efforts as well as keeping an eye on investments.

"We would describe ourselves as a global technology company and in fact we have been a global company for some time. Most successful companies these days are global."
Report trilby22 January 23, 2019 6:45 AM GMT
Top bloke Sir James, keeping Britain great Love

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-dyson-singapore/brexit-backer-dyson-moves-vacuum-giants-hq-to-singapore-idUSKCN1PG205
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... Chief Executive Jim Rowan said the manufacturer of air purifiers, hairdryers and cleaner, lauded by politicians as a British success story, was a “global technology company”, with 96 percent of its sales outside Britain.

“Our growth rate in Asia has doubled most other places in the world over recent years,” he said, adding that more than half of its profit came from the region and the move was aimed at “future proofing” Dyson.

Rowan said the company, which broke through the 1 billion pound ($1.3 billion) barrier for annual profit in 2018, was moving to be near its manufacturing centers and the markets where it was seeing the biggest demand.

“It allows us to make sure we will be putting our best efforts to secure those opportunities, as well as keeping an eye on those investments, especially EV (electric vehicles) and batteries,” he told reporters on Tuesday.

There would be a “negligible difference” to its tax payments as a result, said Rowan, who is already based in Singapore, where the corporate tax rate is 17 percent. It is 19 percent in Britain, but is set to fall to 18 percent in 2020.

He said he would be joined there by other senior executives including the company’s chief financial officer, once the paperwork to re-register was complete.

Rowan said the Chinese market had grown in four years from a start-up to a market of a similar size to the United States.

James Dyson came out in favor of Brexit days before the 2016 vote, when he said Britain could be about 18.5 billion pounds better off each year if it left the European Union.

But with only weeks before Brexit, other manufacturers are warning of huge damage if no divorce deal is struck.
Rowan did not foresee see any issues relating to the movement of goods for Dyson.

“If your supply chain is in Asia, and you are manufacturing in the Philippines, Singapore and Malaysia, then obviously you don’t get badly affected with those changes post-Brexit,” he said.

Dyson, which has 5,853 engineers and scientists working on its new electric car and other products, said it was still expanding its research and engineering operation in Britain.

It reported earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization (EBITDA) of 1.1 billion pounds ($1.42 billion) in 2018 on turnover up 28 percent to 4.4 billion pounds.

Dyson also said on Tuesday it had hired executive Roland Krueger from Infiniti Motor Company and Nissan Motor Co (7201.T) to oversee its automotive project.

“We expect to be able to go in and disrupt yet another industry using bespoke Dyson technology and innovation,” Rowan said.

In October, it said it would build its electric car in Singapore because it said it was close to suppliers and Asian markets for the vehicle, which is due to launch in 2021.
Report salmon spray January 23, 2019 9:34 AM GMT
He doesn't want to be based in the UK because Singapore has a trade agreement with the EU.
I repeat. WAC.
And I bought one of his vacuum cleaners about 9 months ago and it's useless.
Double WAC.
Report Platini January 23, 2019 10:00 AM GMT
pr maybe they're moving to Singapore because they believe Brexit isn't happening and the UK remains shackled to the titanic
Report dave1357 January 23, 2019 10:02 AM GMT
^
utter fantasy
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 10:06 AM GMT
Bye bye then is my see you to him

Don't bother bringing your rubbish hoovers here would be my other message to him

Ban Dyson products coming into the country
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 10:06 AM GMT
Good point platini , we haven’t left yet
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 10:08 AM GMT
he already does his manufacturing outside Britain , this is pre Brexit
Report Platini January 23, 2019 10:09 AM GMT
The Eurozone



LaughLaugh
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 10:10 AM GMT
Post Brexit set a hefty tariff on all dyson products coming into the U.K.

Will help and encourage local manufacturers who employ British workers
Report Dr Crippen January 23, 2019 10:14 AM GMT
And I bought one of his vacuum cleaners about 9 months ago and it's useless.


I don't believe that. You can't afford a Dyson.
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 10:15 AM GMT
His hoovers are doss

Might as well use a hair dryer
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 10:18 AM GMT
Go to Singapore, Sir Dyson

You ain't wanted here son, take your paper magnets with you
Report Dr Crippen January 23, 2019 10:22 AM GMT
^^

Dyson, which has 5,853 engineers and scientists working on its new electric car and other products, said it was still expanding its research and engineering operation in Britain.
Report Dr Crippen January 23, 2019 10:23 AM GMT
Lefties cutting off their noses to spite their face.
Report Dr Crippen January 23, 2019 10:24 AM GMT
The trouble is, lefties usually take everyone else down with them.
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 10:27 AM GMT

Jan 23, 2019 -- 10:22AM, Dr Crippen wrote:


^^Dyson, which has 5,853 engineers and scientists working on its new electric car and other products, said it was still expanding its research and engineering operation in Britain.


No he can take them with him as well

If he's moving his HQs then he take all his doss factories, his scientists etc with him as well, we don't need them and we don't want them if they aren't 100% committed to Britain

If he's going to make threats he should be politely escorted to the airport and politely told to leave

Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 10:29 AM GMT
And he can take his advert with him as well

What kind of "leader" wants to be front center on a stupid ITV advert ?
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 10:31 AM GMT
He wants the HQ moved

Which means he wont be paying taxes here?

Good bye and don't bring your c*** here is my advice
Report flushgordon1 January 23, 2019 10:52 AM GMT
So our politicians who want us to be ruled by the eu are to be hung then?
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 10:55 AM GMT
So far this week:
Sony moving moving to the Netherlands
P&O reflagging as Cypriot
Dyson moving to Singapore
It's still Wedmesday.

I’ve more respect for Brexiteers who voted because they wanted to limit immigration rather than the utter spastics who think Brexit will be good for our economy. It will be a total disaster as shown by Dyson.
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 10:58 AM GMT
Ruled by the EU!?

What utter tosh. Tell me how we’re ruled by the EU.

If you’re interested as to why that statement is complete bollocks I suggest you look at Britain’s voting record in EU matters.
Report salmon spray January 23, 2019 11:03 AM GMT
I could pay for several hundred Dyson hoovers Crippen. Whether I can afford to buy another piece of junk off him is another matter as I have high blood pressure.
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 11:04 AM GMT
James Dyson, June 2016: “We will create more wealth and more jobs by being outside the EU.”
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 11:05 AM GMT
It’s almost as if these chancers don’t have a clue what they’re talking about.
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 11:06 AM GMT

Jan 23, 2019 -- 10:55AM, Mr Eboue wrote:


So far this week:Sony moving moving to the NetherlandsP&O reflagging as CypriotDyson moving to SingaporeIt's still Wedmesday.I’ve more respect for Brexiteers who voted because they wanted to limit immigration rather than the utter spastics who think Brexit will be good for our economy. It will be a total disaster as shown by Dyson.


Let them go who cares

The sooner we are rid of em the better

How is Dyson sticking his hoovers into his boot and legging it going to effect us?

Look at the state of the country with them being here? robbing people blind for cr** hoovers ffs, robbing people blind is all they do

good riddance

Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 11:08 AM GMT
The country was a mess before the vote, so its not going to be any worse when they up sticks and high tail it out of here

Maybe they can take those CCTVs and other big brother gadgets they had installed all over the country with them?
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 11:14 AM GMT
Dyson is a company that pays millions of pounds in taxes to our government that in turn uses that money to pay for essential services.

Do you not understand that?

What do you think would happen if dozens of companies the size of Dyson, that employs thousands of people here in the UK, decided to base themselves in Singapore?
Report SontaranStratagem January 23, 2019 11:19 AM GMT
We pay taxes? and they may pay taxes but they don't spend it on our essential services Laugh look at the state of our roads and the NHS ffs

How about we threaten to leave the country?

And we'd survive, its a horrible lifestyle working for those companies anyway, people bomb up and down the country daily, getting into accidents etc so they can make people like Dyson even richer. 

Let them go, and they can take the government with them as well.
Report macarony January 23, 2019 11:35 AM GMT
Dyson is still investing at his R/D center here in the UK so don't worry about those 2 job losses. As usual this story is all headline and no substance
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 11:39 AM GMT
Macarony - you’ve utterly missed the point, which is that the UK exchequer will no longer receive tens of millions of pounds of Dyson corporation tax payments every year.

Try and engage tour brain before posting.

Cheers.
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 11:39 AM GMT
*Your
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 11:48 AM GMT
He is moving and relocating these jobs and tax arrangenents now , it’s been an ongoing process for years
Stop Brexit and he will continue to do so

Don’t let the remainers yet to say it’s anything to do with Brexit , it isn’t
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 11:51 AM GMT
Oh that’s good, the forum schizophrenic has cleared it up nicely for everyone.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 11:52 AM GMT
The banks are going as well , less tax ?
Oh dear , too bad , cherrio
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 12:03 PM GMT
now Dyson has said Brexit is good for Britain

He didn’t say it was good for himself,

Don’t confuse one with the other
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 12:06 PM GMT
The banks have said Brexit is bad for Britain

They didn’t say it was bad for themselves

Now I prefer Dysons form of honesty , yes
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 12:26 PM GMT
so are you saying Brexit is good for his business ?
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 12:34 PM GMT
No answer from Eboue , he’s a remainer they’re slow learners

Let’s see ....
Report trilby22 January 23, 2019 12:35 PM GMT
I've had the same Dyson vacuum cleaner for over sixteen years.

Absolutely superb piece of equipment and I've not yet had a single problem with it.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 12:37 PM GMT
Still no answer from Eboue .....
Report trilby22 January 23, 2019 12:37 PM GMT
Eboue wants to watch his language, imo.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 12:38 PM GMT
He’s like that , he’s pretty quiet now though
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 12:41 PM GMT
Nevermind , sometimes the question is more important than the answer

more enlightening.  , more beautiful
Report macarony January 23, 2019 12:42 PM GMT
You got to love these hypocrites
Big business has been leaving the UK for years factories closing British compaines taken over and tbier head quaters moved abroad,all this long before Brexit
All we got off the elist haters was Britain is service economy now we dont need manufacturing anymore.
Yet now we have Brexit these fools are now fully paid up supports of our industry. Showm me your outraged posts when both Sony and Dyson closed down their UK factories?
Report salmon spray January 23, 2019 12:42 PM GMT
If you've had it for 16 years Trilby I presume it's not cordless. Mine is and you need to be a civil engineer to empty the thing ( it's possible I have a dodgy one ) but when it does condescend to work it fills up in 5 mins.
Report trilby22 January 23, 2019 12:44 PM GMT
No, it's a corded stand-up cylinder type.  I've never given any of these cordless things any credence.
Report trilby22 January 23, 2019 12:45 PM GMT
Handy for the car though, I suppose.
Report Dr Crippen January 23, 2019 1:03 PM GMT
Good post from macarony.

Same with the shrinking of the coalmining industry.
How many jobs were lost there without so much as a whimper from the ones who now get hysterical at two jobs from Dyson going to Singapore?
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 1:17 PM GMT
Hi Crippen -seeing as you must have missed it earlier:

In moving HQ the UK exchequer will no longer receive tens of millions of pounds of Dyson corporation tax payments every year.

Is that clear?
Report UBLE/REGY January 23, 2019 1:20 PM GMT
Jeremy Dyson

is a Businessman first

an Englishman ….. 2nd.
Report 1st time poster January 23, 2019 1:25 PM GMT
facebook,google etc set their headquaters up and that's considered as the origin of the country visa vi their tax status,hard to believe that eventually if Singapore is considered the country under which dyson,s tax is calculated ,that's where it will be paid ,regardless of how many workers he has here or turnover he has in the uk, this is a brucie bnus on top of the trade deal access he,ll have into 600 million people of the EU,the same 600 million he campaigned for business,s in the uk to tuyrn their back on,
when dyson was on platforms with bojo ,fox etc in the campaign they were selling the dream of Singapore on thames ,less regulation,less red tape,workers rights etc,etc, this is obviously now a distant dream for bojo,dyson and co
Report flushgordon1 January 23, 2019 1:26 PM GMT
So beeswax Dyson farming will lose its single farm payment when we leave the eu, that's really selfish of Mr Dyson, you wonder why heseltine wants to keep getting his?
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 1:27 PM GMT
Well said indeed 1st time poster.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 1:33 PM GMT
Singapore has a trade deal with the EU  , without being part of the EU and without having freedom of movement

That’s all you need to know
Report flushgordon1 January 23, 2019 1:39 PM GMT
A wad the powr the gift tae gie us tae see oursell as ithers see us.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 1:39 PM GMT
no answer from Eboue yet here it is again

so are you saying Brexit is good for his business ?
Report politicspunter January 23, 2019 1:40 PM GMT

Jan 23, 2019 -- 1:22PM, Mr Eboue wrote:


Take a look at these two posts, posted by the same (thick) person:lfc1971    23 Jan 19 10:20  Dyson is a globalist , he is doing what is best for himself People are like that , selfishlfc1971    23 Jan 19 12:03  now Dyson has said Brexit is good for BritainHe didn’t say it was good for himself, How can anyone take what this cretin says seriously?How difficult is it fighting with all those different voices in your head?


Everyone should block lfc, I recommend it. Much quicker to read through threads without reading this schizophrenics posts.

Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 1:41 PM GMT
Let’s see if Eboue can answer without being rude

anythings possible .....
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 1:44 PM GMT
Let's look at the evidence shall we?

The man advocates Brexit then, just weeks before we're set to leave, moves his HQ to a foreign country.

That would suggest Brexit is going to be detrimental to his business and the man is, in fact, a liar and a charlatan.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 1:46 PM GMT
ok don’t answer that’s fine , I only ask the question
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 1:46 PM GMT
I've just answered it. Are you blind as well as stupid?
Report UBLE/REGY January 23, 2019 1:49 PM GMT
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No, it's a corded stand-up cylinder type.  I've never given any of these cordless things any credence.


I have a Dyson cylinder cleaner, not stand up. I bought it because it is one of the most attractive

household appliances I have ever seen...it is bordering on art.

However it does have a lot of suck. So I will be glad when it dies, although I will keep it for ornamentation.

EU rules limit suck, whether Dyson1 stays here or goes to singapore his hoovers should have more suck now.
Report UBLE/REGY January 23, 2019 1:49 PM GMT
it does NOT have a lot of suck
Report flushgordon1 January 23, 2019 2:01 PM GMT
You wanting a hoover or linda feckin Lovelace?
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 2:03 PM GMT
Here’s the question again Eboue  you havent answered

You said a business man would never advocate something that was bad for his business

Dyson was in favour of Brexit

Do you think Brexit is good for business ?

Go ahead , let’s see
Report UBLE/REGY January 23, 2019 2:04 PM GMT
Actually nothing will change on Dyson vacuum cleaners, as they will be imported to the EU won't they?

The EU reduced suck rule was so Vacuum Cleaners would use less energy, but since they now have to be used for

a longer period to pick up the same amount as before, it is hardly saving much energy is itCrazy
Report UBLE/REGY January 23, 2019 2:06 PM GMT
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You wanting a hoover or linda feckin Lovelace?


Laugh I see it as a work of art I do not ***** my hoover.
Report Mr Eboue January 23, 2019 2:08 PM GMT
A person in charge of a company would never, ever advocate something that was bad for his company. The role of business is to make money for shareholders.

Dyson was in favour of Brexit.

Do I think Brexit is bad for Dyson? Well yes I do, judging on his decision to move the HQ of his business to a foreign land.  Why would he do that if Brexit was going to benefit his business?
Report politicspunter January 23, 2019 2:08 PM GMT
I could have recommended one of my ex girlfriends to help you, she could suck a tennis ball through a garden hose.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 2:12 PM GMT
Eboue it’s one or the other I don’t mind

Either busisnessman world never advocate something that is bad for his business

Or he would and that’s what Dyson has done ( and why would he )

Which is it ?
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 2:16 PM GMT
Too difficult a question?
Ok nevermind
Report UBLE/REGY January 23, 2019 2:17 PM GMT
Laugh politicspunter


I got my penis stuck in a vacuum cleaner. WHAT DO I DO?

I was giving myself some happy time... when it got stuck.
I have work in the morning.. i don't want to go to work with a hose on my penis.
How to i get it off?


I found this on yahoo


I seem to remember years ago someone performing on stage getting his penis stuck in a vacuum cleaner.

So perhaps that was the REAL reason why suck had to reduced on vacuum cleaners.
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 2:21 PM GMT
Here are your words Eboue

“ a person in charge of a company would never , ever advocate something that is bad for his company “

Dyson advocated  Brexit .....
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 2:26 PM GMT
It’s very difficult to get an honest answer from remainers : (
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 2:28 PM GMT
Don’t trust them , they don’t deserve to be trusted
I’ve yet to meet a nice one
Report moisok January 23, 2019 3:01 PM GMT
ford vans to turkey courtesy of the eu

tea to poland

forgot the other one

they will do anything to undermine the brits

they want us as a vasal state - district two of the french colony
Report politicspunter January 23, 2019 3:15 PM GMT
Didn't realise Turkey was in the EU.
Report moisok January 23, 2019 3:22 PM GMT
ah someone from the KHANTian pursuasion

an example of the eu facilitating the undermining of our industry

one has to explain to the less able I suppose
Report politicspunter January 23, 2019 3:30 PM GMT
??
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 3:31 PM GMT
well said moisok
Report salmon spray January 23, 2019 6:55 PM GMT
So if Dyson is a businessman and only does what is good for HIS business whytf should we take any notice of what he says is good for the country?
Could one of lfc answer that please ?
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 7:18 PM GMT
I didn’t say we should take any notice of him salmon

He’s selfish like everyone else

However he does believe Brexit is good for the country , he said so
Report moisok January 23, 2019 7:19 PM GMT
ME TOO  ME TO  ME TWO  ho ho
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 7:24 PM GMT
If he thought it was bad for the country I imagine he would tell us , like so many others
Report lfc1971 January 23, 2019 7:41 PM GMT
I can’t explain  it any easier than that
Report macarony January 24, 2019 8:21 AM GMT
Mr Eboue

Macarony - you’ve utterly missed the point, which is that the UK exchequer will no longer receive tens of millions of pounds of Dyson corporation tax payments every year.

Try and engage tour brain before posting.

Cheers.

So just to clarify then you are only concerned with losses to the tax payer through closure and relocation of business since the Brexit vote but not before?

Would I be correct in my assumption that if Britain stayed in the EU or the customs union, then you and  other remain supporters interest in British Industry would once again be nil?
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 27, 2019 11:46 AM GMT
Turns out he is the 3rd highest tax payer in uk, what a nasty person he is.

Sir James Dyson and family, £127.8m. Vacuum cleaner and household appliance company.
Report Just Checking January 27, 2019 12:03 PM GMT
Get a Henry instead. Great british brand. And he smiles at you, he can be your friend, and if you drink enough and switch him on and put your ear to him, he can give you betting tips!
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