Jeremy Corbyn

really and you come on ranting and raving about corbyn just because you were in the armed forces 30 odd years ago

certain elements of the party are very very aggressive

There were 2 sides in that war i think , would you agree ?

anxious is one of em

what's the armed forces membership got to do with it

to degsy that one moisok sorry

really and you come on ranting and raving about corbyn just because you were in the armed forces 30 odd years ago


Tbf anxious if you serve your country, you certainly have the right to freedom of speech

anyone serving usually gets a very good grounding in the world  the communities and traditions  life styles etc etc

Moisok in the trenches in fishnets

No more than anybody else , what is this my country right or wrong ?

if you have served you would understand

dan did it underneath   - oh I am a wit  - I should be on stage in my glittery minis and heels

and your skirts dont forget them

no anxious it is about a young 15 year old working class ignorant boy going round the world and getting educated

no skirts

ok but that doesnt make your views correct does it ,

I have visited countries but i would not claim to know it all

mini dresses only - it loses effect without

I am not sure how this would go down at the local ward

many are traditional  and how do I say this,   errrr   more newly arrived  than myself if you know what I mean

correct about what?

your views and experiences shape your  thinking i can get that

I could tell you about poverty in foreign countries - about how children are crippled so they can go and beg from the servicemen - a soft touch  and much more. nothing correct there but a fact - what else do you want to know

Yes but we all know about that sort of thing , that only proves that the world isnt perfect

but I do not claim to be correct

my experiences turned me into socialist thinking and politics

I DO NOT LIKE WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE PARTY

it is controlled by people who know very little about the world - many haven't been THERE  and I don't mean on holiday or on political jamborees  - most haven't lived or worked there

I have.  not that I have the answer

Well if you despise it that much why dont you just leave it then

these people are leading and controlling the party  - they are only interested in themselves - it is obvious

a huge change needs to take place and comrade starmer  needs to be the first out - how dare he carry the  name Keir

Right apparently I haven't spoken to the missus tonight, had my head stuck in this. Things need to change so I'll bid you all goodnight. Now to talk to her, going to ask her to make me a cup of coffee

So you support Jeremy then ?

I must admit I wonder myself.  what else is there  - I have tried the more radical ones too whilst still in the party.  Maybe it is not my fight any longer but most of them appear not to realise where they are going.  Certainly not the lot in parliament.

yes and I voted for him.

never seen such one sided propaganda against him

the same with brexit

the media trying to control both

but while the party plays its westminster games instead of getting out and listening to people we won't go anywhere and won't get elected

I think Jeremy said there is more to poltics than parliament , tony benn also believed that do you support that view /

what is also interesting is your single line replies  it is like talking to a computer

I am off

Nearly 12 milion voted for him in 2017 the bigest swing to Labour since 1945

yes cos he promised free student fes , free this free that , wake up

b0llacks he offered people a different way, not the selfish spiv world

never seen such one sided propaganda against him

Truth not propaganda moisok. He's toxic thanks to his support for terrorists and anyone who is anti British.

whos gonna pay for it , yes darlings  you get university educated , joe bloggs who works emptying bins will pay for your education through his taxes

correct akabula. , no one of his majestys finest should ever or will ever vote for that man

See the same old songs from 30 years ago , were the loyalist death squads not terrorists eh akabula ?

were the  british army in i ireland terrorists anxious ?

Her majestys finest ffs  talk about scraping the barrel

you will never know socialist antifa boy

Nobody is holy in than thou in war

thank god we dont let your lot loose on this great country of ours

The IRA , UVF , UFF  were all the same thing , some people just cant accept this

I am just thinking of some of things I thought were good when I was a young man aka - not that you have ever made a mistake.

Degsy is not allowed a say cos he is ex services (you could't make it up)

As degsy  says - who is going to pay for it all  who is going to promote UK plc to make the dosh to pay for ANYTHING remotely socialist.
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We would have to nationalise utilities and infrastructure at NO COST  - good luck with that one.  Much of it is foreign owned.

I would favour that but what would the consequences be - we certainly couldn't BUY it back.  We would have to take it.

british army in ireland ?

What do you mean your fookin country . fook you bigot

Its not your country , just because your a soldier boy so fookin what

who , this great country of ours is what was said , dont let the socialist antifa mob loose on it

you on the skol supers lad

you think anxious is left wing   hah!!!!

I mean - who fkn owns water  eh!!??   I am surprised we are not charged for air where it isn't polluted!!!  added on to our window tax

A nurse or a doctor is more valuble that some fookin cannon fodder

correct lad , a soldier is a lot more use than a placard waving **** in a red shirt

Maybe mosiok you need to complete your journey into the EdL

anxious
See the same old songs from 30 years ago , were the loyalist death squads not terrorists eh akabula ?

They were anxious and thanks for endorsing my point. Corbyn sided with the ira. Dispute if you like but point out one loyalist funeral he attended or one loyalist fund raiser he attended or one loyalist he invited in Westminster or even one loyalist he counted as a friend.

we need a great and radical change - but others control us - so it won't be happening

look how they have been able to bring in millions

lots of cheap labour

plus several million who will reside here working in the institutions which will eventually change EVRERY THING

and no worker's vote will change it

akabula i think he spke with late david ervine from the PUP , dont lecture me with the flutes and the 12th of july

corbyn paid tribute to the ira hit squad who got wiped out by the sas in loughall , traitor

I am sorry anxious but that is a really nasty thing to say - a journey to the edl

you appear to like so many in the party who follow this route

disagree with them and you get personal and nasty  - these are the dangers of going down this momentum route  - gang warfare  against anyone who has an opposite view

it appears you are no different   - I have been warning about it for years

but good luck with that

Aka, degsy were the loyalist death squads as bad as the IRA ?

who did corbyn support in ireland not the british troops , the ira ,   two hat

you see anxious - I try not to stoop to that level - but you epitomise everything that the party appears to be about now and its tactics at local level.

yes loyalists as bad

Moisok i apolgise if i have ofende you , but you have made me feel angry , but i will own it

You seem though to overlook the fookin tories and what they have done to my country

did u see corbyn with loyalists , no  , adams and mcguiness lover

anyway enough of that , you go your way and ill go my way

anxious desperately trying to change the subject.
You have no argument so resort to your normal abuse and diversion tactics.

Yeah your entitled to your thoughts and views

No i am not akabula , its you your are so bitter and one sided

gotta say anx its you whos bitter and deluded , if you support corbyn after the sh1t hes supported then your deluded , maybe read up on the two hat

apology accepted   - did you see my post about taking back our basics   -  which labour mp wrote a book about it and no longer an mp

I do support him very much so , he is a good man who has the best interests for most of the people in this country

sorry   he is getting on a bit - retired I think

Like I said anxious you are shallow with no argument.

Dont know of top of my head moisok

Jan 15, 2019 -- 11:27PM, anxious wrote:

I do support him very much so , he is a good man who has the best interests for most of the people in this country

enough said - deluded

Thats your views degsy lots of people support him , you dont seem able to realise this , this is the reality its sad you cannot accept this

yes i can , its called democracy , thats why brexit means brexit after the vote

so when  your handing out your leaflets , vote corbyn , you dont mind if i stick it in the bin

just looked up details

chris mullin  A very british coup - he retired 2010

recommended reading as is Hobbs from the tory side  several books of his

novels  but based on some experience

remember Wilson and the intelligence involvement etc

all helps to build a picture

Hey i voted to leave but im not fanatical about it

Mulin yeah i remember him , yeah he was ok a good guy

David davis is a tory i think is ok

read the books by mullins and hobbs  - they are fun and a bit educational  - the tory stuff may be hard to take but they are a good read especially if you like conspiracy

Hey look i dont think all tories are bad thats not true , but what annoys me so much is that the NHS and social care have been wrecked and privatised nearly , i have had family and friends affected by all this so maybe i go over the top about this sort of thing

wow   a very british coup has been re printed twice since jeremy got in as leader!!!  tells ya something doesn't it

I was serving abroad most of the wilson government but their were loads of rumours about getting rid of him

I was brought up in a staunch Labour family and area so this has had a big effect on me

Yep i remember the wilson thing

, the politicians these days from all sides are so different nowadays , maybe its the generation thing

I am very old and I have done all the marches, the radical left caucus's and takeovers of wards etc. I see it from all angles. And where did it get us - a purge and Kinnock then Blair - when you have gone from Wilson to Blair I think it gives one a bit of a grounding in politics - hence my Very critical approach.  I don't want to say too much coz the elves are listening everywhere.  They simply would not allow a fundamental change.  We all need to realise that.  Who would go on the streets??

that is partly what mullin's book is about

No i agree the party drifted to blair and yes he won 3 elections but got us involved in the disaster in the middle east , i think we all realised he was not a socilast but people accepted this after the 18 years of tory rule

he was a product of the times the New so called politics

blair should be tried for war crimes

not just the generation thing - we were very radical as young - but I think the eu has a lot to answer for.

The issue is - who are we working for ??  Are the politicians working for the general population (who are nearly all wage or salary slaves only months from disaster should the income stop)  or?????  I think they work for themselves - I have seen them do it within the party as a shop steward and activist, latterly as an official (very unpopular with the hierarchy coz I kept asking questions).

The games played by people to eventually get to westminster were disgusting - nothing to do with socialism - all to do with one's place and career.  I don't work like that.

The end came when I was dealing with an implementation of national pay grade change and another (very big union) tried to recruit me and pay me for every member I could poach from my current local union (8000 members)

No - don't want to be part of those games any more.

I can se the same thing in local politics there is a lot of party speak and a lot of it is rubbish , but central government is as much to blame as local councillors

Much of my experience was before during and just after the thatcher era (imagine what that was like) 

After I left I went into business - this is where the 'who is going to pay for it all' line comes from.

I still have interests and love a bet too - I have taken plenty of risks over the years.

anyway  there is a police helicopter hovering over the woods at the back of my place

- someone has grassed me up ho ho!!!

good night and good luck

adios

No i agree the party drifted to blair and yes he won 3 elections but got us involved in the disaster in the middle east , i think we all realised he was not a socilast but people accepted this after the 18 years of tory rule

The reason they got three terms was the fact they were centre left ! The people of this country will accept centre left or right but not the extremes on either side.

The manifesto for 2017 really wasn't all that radical unless you just listened to people that think anyone left of thatcher was a socialist.

The student fees policy was a bad one for multiple reasons. It doesn't help with addressing the inequality in education, was mostly a middle class subsidy and is aimed at the people who would vote for them anyway