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Lady Faye Verrit
13 Jan 19 10:22
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Had never checked the ingredients of Oxo (which are printed in the teeny tiniest font under the box) until yesterday!

Wheat Flour (with added Calcium, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin), Salt, Maize Starch, Yeast Extract, Flavour Enhancers (Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Guanylate),
Colour (Ammonia Caramel), Beef Fat (4.5%), Autolysed Yeast Extract, Dried Beef Bone Stock, Flavourings, Sugar, Acidity Regulator (Lactic Acid), Onion Powder.

Not much in the way of beef here but, by contrast, The Knorr Stock Pots are more than 70% beef....

Concentrated beef stock (66%) (water, beef extract), salt, beef fat (5.2%) [beef fat, antioxidant (extracts of rosemary)], flavourings, yeast extract, potassium chloride, palm fat, gelling agents (xanthan gum, locust bean gum), sugar, caramel syrup, maltodextrin, carrots†, lovage root†, leek† (0.1%), parsley† (0.1%). †From sustainable agriculture

Won't be buying many Oxo cubes in future as it needs, perhaps three cubes, to get anywhere near the intensity of flavour,
but then you are taking on a high level of the ingredients, that you don't want to eat!
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Report Aspro January 13, 2019 11:19 AM GMT
Had never checked the ingredients of Oxo (which are printed in the teeny tiniest font under the box) until yesterday!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Magnifying-Handheld-Illuminated-Magnifier-Lightweight/dp/B01MQE91R5/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1547378232&sr=8-4&keywords=magnifying+glass+with+light

Thank me later
Report Baphornet January 13, 2019 11:21 AM GMT
are Knorr 3x the price of oxo?
Report Crisp77 January 13, 2019 11:32 AM GMT
You tell them how you like your stock Lady. Make no bones about it.
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 13, 2019 11:37 AM GMT
Aspro.... I had to use a magnifier to read it....

Price....at the moment Oxo are £1.69 at Tesco for twelve.

Knorr Stock Pots are on offer at £1.00 for four so, considering that you need two or three Oxo cubes, to get anywhere near to the intensity of flavour,
and integrity of the ingredients, it's a no brainer really!

Also, dependant on the volume you are cooking, you may not need a whole STOCK pOT!
Report Baphornet January 13, 2019 11:40 AM GMT
so that would be £3 for 12?
Report Baphornet January 13, 2019 11:41 AM GMT
when they're on offer of course
Report Aspro January 13, 2019 12:10 PM GMT
Are Bovril cubes better than Oxo?
Report McCoy Carp January 13, 2019 12:11 PM GMT
I crossed an Oxo with a hyena. I made myself a laughing stock...... (courtesy of the joke thread)
Report blackbarn January 13, 2019 12:33 PM GMT
LFV - Your comparison between Oxo AND Knorr is a good one but you have overstated it. Not knowing how much of the Knorr beef stock is still water flaws your 70% somewhat.

Stock cubes are a nightmare.  The original (and still available) Knorr Beef Cubes contain 4% "beef extract".  The latest Knorr "Rich Beef Cubes" contain 2% "beef extract"
with presumably the claimed "rich"ness coming from the new addition of malt extract (marmite??)
Report donny osmond January 13, 2019 12:42 PM GMT
i quite like knorr chicken stock pot, ...i put one in my chilli, at same time
as the tomatoes go in. .....get nicer taste than with oxo or beef stockpot

you pays yer monets and yer takes yer pick!
Report donny osmond January 13, 2019 12:44 PM GMT
stockpots are often on promotion , and can be bought 2 for 1 or similar

rather like nescafe coffee, why buy them at full price?
Report cooperman January 13, 2019 1:00 PM GMT
Gordon would be incandescent if he caught anyone using an oxo. Angry
Report moisok January 13, 2019 1:10 PM GMT
stock cubes are the devil's spawn
Report moisok January 13, 2019 1:11 PM GMT
gordon isn't in decent cans - I think he only likes fresh veg and fruit
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 13, 2019 1:11 PM GMT
Baphornet....sorry, I thought that might confuse!

As I described Oxo as being for twelve cubes, I similarly meant a pack of four with Stock Pots!

Anyway I've just come back from there, and now the Stock pots are £1.69 and Oxo are £1.60.....

Good job that I always stock up, whilst offers are available.
Report moisok January 13, 2019 1:13 PM GMT
will they be able to fly them in during the airlift? or come by rubber boats?
Report moisok January 13, 2019 1:14 PM GMT
stock up on stock pots before the end of march!!!
Report donny osmond January 13, 2019 1:19 PM GMT
iceland had em 8 for £2 last i saw
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 13, 2019 1:19 PM GMT
Re the comment "Bovril Cubes v Oxo, Bovril wins hands down.

Not everywhere stocks them however, but I'll be checking them out again, if I see them....

Actually, having just found the ingredients, I won't bother!

Salt, Flavour Enhancers (Monosodium Glutamate, Disodium Guanylate, Disodium Inosinate), Colour (Ammonia Caramel), Flavourings, Potassium Chloride, Palm Fat, Potato Starch, Beef Broth (3%), Sugar, Yeast Extract, Acid (Lactic Acid), Onion Juice Concentrate, Sunflower Oil
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 13, 2019 1:21 PM GMT
I only go to Tesco Express, but the main supermarket, and Morrisons have them at £1.00...
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 13, 2019 1:34 PM GMT
I used to always have Bovril (which is sold as a drink) in the larder but it went up in price from £3.39 to over £4.00
which I would say is a bit strong!

I used that before the Stock Pots were available.

Thing is that, for a price of £4.00, you can get sixteen Stock Pots (when on offer) and I doubt one could get sixteen generous tea spoons, from a jar!
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 13, 2019 1:35 PM GMT
Beef Broth (50%) [Water, Beef Bones],
Yeast Extract (27%) [contains Barley, Wheat, Oats, Rye],
Salt,Water,Colour (Ammonia Caramel),Corn Starch,Beef Powder (1%),
Flavour Enhancers (Disodium Inosinate, Disodium Guanylate),
Report A_T January 13, 2019 1:51 PM GMT
The Knorr Stock Pots are more than 70% beef....

Concentrated beef stock (66%) (water, beef extract), salt, beef fat (5.2%)


more likely 70% water

it's extremely disappointing to find so many relying on these kind of products rather than making their own stock.
Report McCoy Carp January 13, 2019 2:20 PM GMT
Actually, I boil up a chicken carcass, onion & carrot sliced, bay leaf, some black peppercorns, but at the end I will add a knorr chicken stock cube or Lidl's own which are fraction of the price.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves January 13, 2019 4:01 PM GMT
Oxo cubes are a 19th-century German invention, oddly enough. Justus Freiherr von Liebig, possibly the greatest chemist who ever lived imo, was also the man who invented Marmite.

It was all part of his efforts to educate people in where the actual nutrition comes from in food. He got frustrated by people pouring away the fat and juices from meat, for instance, as that's where the goodness lies, hence the Oxo cube to restore those juices.

He discovered all the secrets of what makes crops grow (basically, if a single vital mineral is lacking in the soil, then it doesn't matter how much of everything else you have - nothing will grow).

Without his research there'd be none of the reliable crop yields we now take for granted.
Report blackbarn January 13, 2019 5:44 PM GMT
McCoy Carp - Your recipe made me giggle as it is my mothers recipe (plus celery) for chicken soup (Delicious it is too). Right or wrong, she said you can't make chicken stock with cooked chicken.  I use bulk raw chicken wings from my butchers! - a chef I know uses "feet" as well.
Report McCoy Carp January 14, 2019 12:10 PM GMT
Sorry, should of been a bit clearer. If I buy a chicken I like to get at least two meals out of it after I've roasted it, ie Sunday dinner then, then maybe buttered noodles with green beans and chicken. Then I'll boil up what's left as above, for the basis of soup or stew, but it needs a bit of oomph so I normally add a stock cube at the end, and also once I've made the soup/stew I always add a bit of cream sherry (fortfied British wine). We've got an arrangement in our house where I do the cooking, the wife does everything else ie, washing ironing cleaning, which as it happens, suits both of us Happy
Report northanlite January 14, 2019 12:40 PM GMT
Lady Faye has the big issues covered. knorr pots 4 times the price of an oxo cube but worth it imo
Report mega88 January 14, 2019 12:52 PM GMT
Oxos we're good for mixing in with mash potatoes
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 14, 2019 1:24 PM GMT
If you are truly interested, I would suggest waiting until you can buy the stock pots for £1.00, and buy both them and Oxo...

Make a simple drink with just hot water, for both (use only a third of a stock pot in one, and a whole Oxo cube in the other)
then make a judgement....
Report northanlite January 14, 2019 1:40 PM GMT
i'm semi interested
Report trilby22 January 14, 2019 3:59 PM GMT
These badgers, Lady F?

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/search?query=knorr%20stock%20pots&icid=tescohp_sws-1_m-sug_in-knorr%20_ab-226-b_out-knorr%20stock%20pots
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 14, 2019 5:44 PM GMT
Incredible trilby!

I don't go to the main Tesco supermarket, but only (for convenience) Tesco Express!

I never saw packs of eight anywhere, but at £1.32 is incredible!!!

Only yesterday, a pack of four was £1.69!

Was in today, but I didn't look!
Report houseofpain January 14, 2019 6:09 PM GMT
Spooky thread for me, had a bovril drink for the first time i would guess in 20 years on saturday at football, with a hotdog ditched the so called sausage wanted the crusty bread, took me back to watching floyd win when i was a young nipper.
Report Just Checking January 14, 2019 6:20 PM GMT
Never use the stock cubes but I go through loads of Bisto gravy.
As Alan Partridge used to say:

"Ahaha! Bisto" LaughLaughLaugh

(Actually the missed a massive marketing trick there didn't they).
Report Just Checking January 14, 2019 6:21 PM GMT
Talking of Bovril I've actually tried using watered down Bisto as a sort of Bovril substitute if I wanted a hot drink at night that wasn't coffee or tea. Kind of works!
Report screaming from beneaththewaves January 14, 2019 6:41 PM GMT
For houseofpain:

Report houseofpain January 14, 2019 6:48 PM GMT
Thanks for that sfb, great memories with me old grandad taking me racing. Where you think that is kempton??
Report screaming from beneaththewaves January 14, 2019 10:21 PM GMT
I took the photo in the pre-parade ring at Ascot, just before Christmas 1990. The horse was a 10yo then, and making his seasonal debut in the Long Walk Hurdle, after yet another injury lay-off. He went on to win, making all as usual. I was determined to get one good photo of him, because pictures of any but the very best horses were hard to come by in those days. I had £1,000 to £80 each way, which was a hell of a bet in my circumstances back then.

I loved Floyd more than I've loved any other horse, even my own. He was simply inspirational. The way he battled back again and again to win races was unreal. David Elsworth had a couple of similarly courageous and enthusiastic front-runners, in Desert Orchid and Persian Punch, and Floyd was never absolutely top-class like those two. But, as Elsworth said, Floyd was the one you'd want in the trenches with you.

And then there was the sheer speed of his hurdling. He actually appeared to jump faster than he galloped. Make A Stand is the only other hurdler I've seen with a technique like that, but Floyd somehow did it while jumping out to his right at every hurdle.
Report STUDYFORM January 14, 2019 10:54 PM GMT
I think Oxo makes dinner taste weird and is not as good as any other stock cube. Stock pots and cubes aren't much different to each other though.
Report trilby22 January 15, 2019 5:38 AM GMT
You appear pleased Lady F Happy

I get through a large amount of Oxo (beef & chicken, mainly) & shall stop by Tesco tomorrow to purchase each of the four Knorr eight packs on offer.  A wee "stock" up, if you like Grin
Report houseofpain January 15, 2019 8:27 AM GMT

Jan 14, 2019 -- 10:21PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:


I took the photo in the pre-parade ring at Ascot, just before Christmas 1990. The horse was a 10yo then, and making his seasonal debut in the Long Walk Hurdle, after yet another injury lay-off. He went on to win, making all as usual. I was determined to get one good photo of him, because pictures of any but the very best horses were hard to come by in those days. I had £1,000 to £80 each way, which was a hell of a bet in my circumstances back then.I loved Floyd more than I've loved any other horse, even my own. He was simply inspirational. The way he battled back again and again to win races was unreal. David Elsworth had a couple of similarly courageous and enthusiastic front-runners, in Desert Orchid and Persian Punch, and Floyd was never absolutely top-class like those two. But, as Elsworth said, Floyd was the one you'd want in the trenches with you. And then there was the sheer speed of his hurdling. He actually appeared to jump faster than he galloped. Make A Stand is the only other hurdler I've seen with a technique like that, but Floyd somehow did it while jumping out to his right at every hurdle.


Good read that, was my first real horse racing star that i followed.

Report Lady Faye Verrit January 16, 2019 12:21 PM GMT
I used to make a warming and comforting drink with Bovril and plus Passata and chilli....

Since it went up to over £4, I'm using the stock pots and also adding some of the Veggie ones.

Going to follow your lead Trilby, and pop to the main Tesco supermarket....Happy
Report cooperman January 16, 2019 12:26 PM GMT
In my local Asda OXO stock pots(all flavours) are the same price as KNORR stock pots (£2 for 8) didn't check the ingredients.
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 16, 2019 2:08 PM GMT
Please insert appropriate swear words here...

Just back from Tesco and the only packs of eight are Vegetable!

Packs of just four Beef are £1.45!

What I have picked up are Tesco branded packs of four beef, for £0.90 which I'm thinking may be just the same, and also Bovril at £3.39
as opposed to over £4. at the express.....
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 23, 2019 10:57 AM GMT
Ok....have done a comparison of Knorr and Tesco....

Appearance wise the Tesco are not as gelatinous as the Knorr.

Taste wise the Tesco aren't in the same league, though still better, I think, than OXO!

Bearing in mind that, perhaps in isolation, the Tesco would probably be acceptable, as part of a Bolognese sauce,
especially if made into a Chilli!

I certainly wouldn't buy them if the Knorr were on offer at £1.00, but might consider if Knorr were £1.69!

That said, I would have to prove they were acceptable in the final dish, because as with anything else, the price is secondary!

Here are the ingredients of the Tesco......

INGREDIENTS: Water, Salt, Glucose Syrup, Dextrose, BeefFat, Flavourings, Caster Sugar, Yeast Extract, Beef Extract, Onion Concentrate, Barley Malt Extract Powder, Stabiliser (Tara Gum), Ascorbic Acid, Red Wine Concentrate, Parsley, Black Pepper, Antioxidant (Rosemary Extract).
Report trilby22 January 26, 2019 7:52 PM GMT
LFV, I've just ordered one each of the chicken, veg and rich beef before their offer expires on Tuesday.

Would you recommend rich beef over regular beef?

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/search?query=knorr%20stock%20pots
Report trilby22 January 26, 2019 7:53 PM GMT
More precise link …

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/search?query=knorr%20stock%20pots&viewAll=promotion&promotion=offers
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Report blackbarn January 26, 2019 11:23 PM GMT
Trilby - re Knorr Beef Cubes.  I posted this earlier on in this thread.

"Stock cubes are a nightmare.  The original (and still available) Knorr Beef Cubes contain 4% "beef extract".  The latest Knorr "Rich Beef Cubes" contain 2% "beef extract"
with presumably the claimed "rich"ness coming from the new addition of malt extract (marmite??).

They are both ok though, but I prefer the original as the new rich one is saltier.
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 27, 2019 10:13 AM GMT
trilby    I've only ever used the "Rich Beef" as that's what they have at Tesco Express so I can't comment on the other option!

They make it difficult to read the ingredients, by the way they have brackets after brackets, but I can't think extra salt will be very significant, considering the small size of the pots......

I mean if they had 20% salt, it would only be something like a level teaspoon, which will be lost, in the volume of the finished dish!
Report trilby22 January 27, 2019 10:23 AM GMT
Ah, okily.  I'll get the regular beef ones too and report back with a taste test once I've tried them both.  Thanks Happy
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 28, 2019 2:16 PM GMT
Just back from the main Tesco, and I bought the last nine Rich Beef, and another Vegetable (I got four last time).

Ridiculously. they still have packs of four at £1.45. and I wonder how many suckers buy them!
Report trilby22 January 28, 2019 2:21 PM GMT
Not long updated my order LDF.  Eta this time tomorrow Excited
Report sofiakenny January 28, 2019 3:03 PM GMT
I can barely contain my excitement!!..Stock cubes????..ffs!!LaughLaughLaugh
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 29, 2019 9:11 AM GMT
sofia, you clearly don't understand the importance of things like this!

Next we are going to be discussing "X-Stitch" and knitting patterns....
Report trilby22 January 30, 2019 12:15 PM GMT
These are very good, LFV.  Thank you for the heads up & don't mind that sofi loon.  He's more a connoisseur of "Noodle de la Pot" & "Tesco Beans Range de la Basic" with Knorr Stock Pots being way out of his league.

The beefs make a great cuppasoup with a distinct marrow taste to the rich beef.  Both a touch salty perhaps but a larger mug would easily have taken care of that after my additions of black pepper, turmeric and chilli sauce.

I recommend these to the house.
Report Lady Faye Verrit January 30, 2019 12:51 PM GMT
I make a large pan of a warming Beef drink, with added Passata and Pepper/Chilli....

Just about to make my first Beef Stew of this winter, and will have some tomorrow, with Herby Dumplings....
Report Lady Faye Verrit September 12, 2019 10:28 AM BST
Just a timely update foe anyone who cares...

Having been a quite expensive £1.70 for a pack of four, over many months, they are now two for £2.00 at Tesco.

I'm assuming that, perhaps, other supermarkets may follow suit, but in the meantime I have filled my boots!

I also make a hot, comforting drink, but I add Tomato Passata/Puree, and a teeny pinch of Chilli Powder....
Report Lady Faye Verrit September 12, 2019 10:32 AM BST
Don't know why I just repeated myself!

Must be stock pot drink overload.....Laugh
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