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The disgusting treatment of poor Anna Soubry by people calling her a Nazi is totally unacceptable.
For too long this Nazi slur has been used against all sorts of people with no justification.
Do the name callers even know what the evil Nazi doctrine was?
The 25-point Program of the NSDAP
1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the people's right to self-determination.
2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people and colonization for our surplus population.
4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently, no Jew can be a member of the race.
5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.
6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore, we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.
7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.
9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.
10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently, we demand:
11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the state must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
21. The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.
23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:
a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race;
b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the state to be published. They may not be printed in the German language;
c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications or any influence on them and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.
24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: "The good of the community before the good of the individual".[13] ("GEMEINNUTZ GEHT VOR EIGENNUTZ" [all caps in original])[14]
25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.
For too long this Nazi slur has been used against all sorts of people with no justification.
Do the name callers even know what the evil Nazi doctrine was?
The 25-point Program of the NSDAP
1. We demand the unification of all Germans in the Greater Germany on the basis of the people's right to self-determination.
2. We demand equality of rights for the German people in respect to the other nations; abrogation of the peace treaties of Versailles and St. Germain.
3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the sustenance of our people and colonization for our surplus population.
4. Only a member of the race can be a citizen. A member of the race can only be one who is of German blood, without consideration of creed. Consequently, no Jew can be a member of the race.
5. Whoever has no citizenship is to be able to live in Germany only as a guest and must be under the authority of legislation for foreigners.
6. The right to determine matters concerning administration and law belongs only to the citizen. Therefore, we demand that every public office, of any sort whatsoever, whether in the Reich, the county or municipality, be filled only by citizens. We combat the corrupting parliamentary economy, office-holding only according to party inclinations without consideration of character or abilities.
7. We demand that the state be charged first with providing the opportunity for a livelihood and way of life for the citizens. If it is impossible to sustain the total population of the State, then the members of foreign nations (non-citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
8. Any further immigration of non-citizens is to be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans, who have immigrated to Germany since 2 August 1914, be forced immediately to leave the Reich.
9. All citizens must have equal rights and obligations.
10. The first obligation of every citizen must be to productively work mentally or physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently, we demand:
11. Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
12. In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
13. We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
14. We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
15. We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
16. We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
17. We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.
18. We demand struggle without consideration against those whose activity is injurious to the general interest. Common national criminals, usurers, profiteers and so forth are to be punished with death, without consideration of confession or race.
19. We demand substitution of a German common law in place of the Roman Law serving a materialistic world-order.
20. The state is to be responsible for a fundamental reconstruction of our whole national education program, to enable every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education and subsequently introduction into leading positions. The plans of instruction of all educational institutions are to conform with the experiences of practical life. The comprehension of the concept of the state must be striven for by the school [Staatsbürgerkunde] as early as the beginning of understanding. We demand the education at the expense of the state of outstanding intellectually gifted children of poor parents without consideration of position or profession.
21. The state is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
22. We demand abolition of the mercenary troops and formation of a national army.
23. We demand legal opposition to known lies and their promulgation through the press. In order to enable the provision of a German press, we demand, that:
a. All writers and employees of the newspapers appearing in the German language be members of the race;
b. Non-German newspapers be required to have the express permission of the state to be published. They may not be printed in the German language;
c. Non-Germans are forbidden by law any financial interest in German publications or any influence on them and as punishment for violations the closing of such a publication as well as the immediate expulsion from the Reich of the non-German concerned. Publications which are counter to the general good are to be forbidden. We demand legal prosecution of artistic and literary forms which exert a destructive influence on our national life and the closure of organizations opposing the above made demands.
24. We demand freedom of religion for all religious denominations within the state so long as they do not endanger its existence or oppose the moral senses of the Germanic race. The Party as such advocates the standpoint of a positive Christianity without binding itself confessionally to any one denomination. It combats the Jewish-materialistic spirit within and around us and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our nation can only succeed from within on the framework: "The good of the community before the good of the individual".[13] ("GEMEINNUTZ GEHT VOR EIGENNUTZ" [all caps in original])[14]
25. For the execution of all of this we demand the formation of a strong central power in the Reich. Unlimited authority of the central parliament over the whole Reich and its organizations in general. The forming of state and profession chambers for the execution of the laws made by the Reich within the various states of the confederation. The leaders of the Party promise, if necessary by sacrificing their own lives, to support by the execution of the points set forth above without consideration.
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mr hilter shore done numero 25 ha ha ha ha BANG!!!
Then they unified germany and look who leads it now - an ex communist 'friend' - hegemony in europe without firing a shot well errr.. except in the ukraine - but they have form for that. amazing scenes |
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^ Is that from memory
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^ To Insider ...oc
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all of us no this - the learnt us in klass!!!
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*know
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I can knot type proper - 'they learnt us in Klass!!!
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but I do no this
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Wouldn't OP all be in German....also ?
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No Leopard. Straight from Wiki.
Sorry for lack of reference. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Program |
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only of one blood - it reminds me of the brits/saxons/danes - sort of 1500 years out of date. they had slaves too back in the old 500s etc
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For that Trader you will be first to go - or be put in the Black Adder spiked box!!
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Strange this is suddenly a "thing", the lefties have been calling anyone they disagree with "fascists" "far right" and "racists" and indeed "nazi" for years now, no comment about it. Trump for example the left will call a fascist all day long and the SJWs/BBC love it, not to mention Hungary or Poland for having the TEMERITY to be agains mass immigration which sickens the BBC etc beyond measure. I think only reason her little whine is getting such coverage is she is an ardent remoaner and the remoaners are therefore on her side.
I watch her performances and ask myself why she is even in the Tory party, she seems to openly despise it. Traitor seems appropriate on multiple levels. |
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lol
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Is this the sort of thing people are worried about
I can't believe it - I am a socialist party card carrying member of over 40 years and wouldn't do this Germany: Left-wing violence and extremism on the rise June 20, 2018 BERLIN (AP) — German security officials say left-wing extremists have become more willing to use violence over the past five years. Figures released by the domestic intelligence agency BfV on Wednesday show the number of left-wing extremists whom authorities consider potentially violent rose 27 percent from 7,100 to about 9,000 between 2012 and 2017. The number of violent crimes committed by left-wing extremists rose 88 percent during that period, to 1,648 from 876. Last year saw a spike in left-wing violence partly due to the G-20 summit in Hamburg. The rise of the far-right Alternative for Germany has also given left-wing extremists a new target in recent years. BfV chief Hans-Georg Maassen called for more public debate about the need to reject violence as a means of achieving political ends. |
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There is surely something hugely ironic about a politician who is called a fascist demanding people's free speech is suppressed and the police should be at their door for calling names they don't like!
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sky all over this shouting at an mp and 'deterioration of public order' giving it loads of airtime
naughty people shouting at people who don't listen anymore - |
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lab mp talking about 'threats of violence' - is that what this small group did?
JOE COX 1.01 landed |
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Said it before, but on the political right the fall-away from the centre is portrayed as being exceptionally close to that centre and unbelievably steep
You might step one place to the right by arguing for lower taxes say. But take one step further and – woah – it’s all the way down to Nazism. Take a step leftwards, by contrast, and you can just keep going and going, running all the way to an end. An end that never includes the Gulag. |
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It is really stupid to shout out nazi to soubray though. But attempted murder in germany of an Mp is tucked away. But they are banging on and on about this stuff on sky re the poor mp. Victim status declared.
I also note that this afd are anti eu - we simply cannot have that!!! |
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As usual it's the hypocrisy that gets me. For years now the media and politicans seem to have considered calling people fascist for no reason or the likes of Farage constantly getting harrassed is ok, or left wing nutters harrasing people going to speak at Universities, all ok. Fascist is now a throwaway word for anyone the left doesn't like. We've had 2-3 years now of everyone from comedians to politicians and journalists calling leave voters racists and indeed fascists and stupid and ignorant and abusing them.
But some remoaner MPs get called fascists or "abused"? Well hold on, suddenly that's not allowed! It must be stopped! |
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Ps this move is all about silencing protest - we need to be very careful here. Will I be able to report all the name callers on here?? Do you see how dangerous it is. Same as the so called 'hate' crime reporting.
50 mps putting pressure on Cressida oh very dodgy stuff eh?? ah we have the president of the joe cox organisation on - you can see the way this one is going |
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they are manufacturing a crisis along with the help of the televisual media
It wouldn't have anything to do with the gender of this particular mp would it? - according to 'catherine'(joe cox society) saying nazi is crossing the line - I am glad she will be defending me and all the others that have had this hurled at us. |
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Extract from a letter to the Met Police commissioner from a cross-party group of 60 MP's:
"After months of peaceful and calm protests by groups representing a range of political views on Brexit, an ugly element of individuals [i]with strong far-right and extreme right connections - which your officers are well aware of - have increasingly engaged in intimidatory and potentially criminal acts targeting Members of Parliament, journalists, activists and members of the public."[/i] So a bunch of Nazi's call an MP a...um...Nazi! Still, chuck around epithets like 'far-right....extreme right' (and their left equivalents for balance), and watch the polarisation and dumbing down of our nation increase. |
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as just checking said the words Nazi,facist have become the words of leftie ,6th form politics types who disagree with them,
sky lable these people far right, whats far right to someone who,s on the far left thinks boris Johnson,rees mogg are far right, are these the people sky think are far right,sky probably mean tommy robinson and his ilk, of course sky ,bbc etc would help greatly by conducting interviews in tv studios and we wouldn't have the likes of souboury marching around the grounds of westminister ,like she,s the pied piper of remain, as said above she wants to ignore the winning vote of 17 million people what would souboury call someone like assaad who ignored the will of the people in a democratic vote, facist probably |
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calling names equals - CRISIS - THE END OF DEMOCRACY - it is pathetic. Any one remember the bread strike - the miners strike I do.
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obviously it's extremely offensive calling someone a nazi but is it really criminal as anna soubry is claiming ? i guess it would be in germany but here ?
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Most MP's sat rather smug while Nigel Farage was being harassed and smeared by organised groups,driven into a pub by the SNP support and intimidated and screamed at with his family during a sunday lunch.Their silence during all of that ,because it suited their motives,has produced this response.
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I was right - they are turning it into a women's issue - burley up to her neck in the furore.
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no women should be allowed to be mp,s,, keep them where they should be ,,in the kitchen
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Only caught a glimpse this morning on the news
Looks to me like a load of football hooligans who have been lead on on the whims of the posh enticing them into believing things would be better for builders, joiners and general lackies if we divide and let them rule from here a bit more, while those in their country piles will be championed as 'international trade heros' taking a nice earner from it if the gamble lands and in fact will be those lackies who will be billed if it goes tits up. Ive seen it far and wide, working classes following pied pipers like rats. Not very much 'conservative' about total risk. |
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Cardy talks more sense on this forum than on the horsey one.
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i thought my suggested andrew name was good
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Traitor, disloyal, even scum maybe but not a Nazi ! Didn't think the fat fella(not me) raised serious questions, called her Anna throughout and imo was not threatening. The Old bill should of come across the road to give her a sense of security but where will it end ? If we cant confront our MP's in a civil manner we soon move on to being a dictatorship
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ARCH REMOANER souboury was last seen in my town jumping of a train riding a white charger to the steelworks,saying she couldn't do anything to save it as her beloved EU rules prevented state help, but her and hesletine would turn the town around 4 years later her and hezza not seen since and not a working boot hit the ground in the steelworks yet, blowhard who,s achieved the princely sum of absolutely nothing whilst in politics
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another loudmouth hate figure just been on sky, school boy owen jones claiming a huge interest in far right murderous plots,joe cox,white van in London etc,but saying theres no evidence of far left involvement in attacks
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there is in germany - only 1800 how very perceptive of him
so no left/'progressives' bullying of several public figures - in public - have never happened then? |
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seems anyone wearing,waving a union jack in opposition to 100,s wearing waving the EU flag is been described as beren far right by sky, we no sky ,bbc have a low tolerance level for people supporting their country union jacks,st George flag,white van man etc are scorned ,belittled by the media,mp,s etc
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All of these 'issues' are smoke screens to deter people from seeing the root of the problem; that our version of democracy has failed and has culminated in the open sore of contrasting opinion of the EU finally showing what a stinking putrid mess of deceit parliament is.
When parties break funding limits in elections nothing significant happens, but even worse, information doesnt even need justifying before votes. Any old pony gets dragged out and swallowed simply to facilitate a desired result....and when it does and things arnt as the electorate believed, the claim is 'theres a mandate'. Its bs. |