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06 Jan 19
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is it just me or are their hardly any more classic pop music tracks made any more
in 90's there were untold that have stood the test of time and are still being played/sold today
For example this is the list of number 1's last year
Eminem featuring Ed Sheeran River
Drake God's Plan
Rudimental featuring Jess Glynne, Macklemore and Dan Caplen These Days
Lil Dicky featuring Chris Brown Freaky Friday
Drake Nice for What
Calvin Harris and Dua Lipa One Kiss
Jess Glynne I'll Be There
Clean Bandit featuring Demi Lovato Solo
George Ezra Shotgun
Baddiel, Skinner and The Lightning Seeds Three Lions
Drake In My Feelings
George Ezra Shotgun
Benny Blanco, Halsey and Khalid Eastside
Calvin Harris and Sam Smith Promises
Dave featuring Fredo Funky Friday
Calvin Harris and Sam Smith Promises
Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper Shallow
Ariana Grande Thank U, Next
LadBaby We Built This City
How many of them have you heard of let alone will still be being played in 20 years time, the 3 lions repeat aside. Despacito has billions of youtube views but was only number 1 for 3 weeks and imo that was vastly overrated pap.
Not enough effort put into pop music these day because the record companies know they can put out any old crap and it will sell, largely thanks to huge social media followers who will buy anything, all sounds the same as well.
in 90's there were untold that have stood the test of time and are still being played/sold today
For example this is the list of number 1's last year
Eminem featuring Ed Sheeran River
Drake God's Plan
Rudimental featuring Jess Glynne, Macklemore and Dan Caplen These Days
Lil Dicky featuring Chris Brown Freaky Friday
Drake Nice for What
Calvin Harris and Dua Lipa One Kiss
Jess Glynne I'll Be There
Clean Bandit featuring Demi Lovato Solo
George Ezra Shotgun
Baddiel, Skinner and The Lightning Seeds Three Lions
Drake In My Feelings
George Ezra Shotgun
Benny Blanco, Halsey and Khalid Eastside
Calvin Harris and Sam Smith Promises
Dave featuring Fredo Funky Friday
Calvin Harris and Sam Smith Promises
Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper Shallow
Ariana Grande Thank U, Next
LadBaby We Built This City
How many of them have you heard of let alone will still be being played in 20 years time, the 3 lions repeat aside. Despacito has billions of youtube views but was only number 1 for 3 weeks and imo that was vastly overrated pap.
Not enough effort put into pop music these day because the record companies know they can put out any old crap and it will sell, largely thanks to huge social media followers who will buy anything, all sounds the same as well.
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I am thinking deep purple with Previn, sabbath, elo, queen, all done it, but when I look at the above list and see Sheeran!!!
there's tons of cross over stuff of course
Lord composed no end - even Macartney has etc
but ariana grande oh please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
says it all really
there's tons of cross over stuff of course
Lord composed no end - even Macartney has etc
but ariana grande oh please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
says it all really
This guy supplies an explanation and I think he's got some good points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII
Most mainstream stuff on the radio today is sheer torture to listen to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII
Most mainstream stuff on the radio today is sheer torture to listen to
do you mean 'pop' music - there is some (only a little) that one can listen to
I take the corrs as a popular band but nothing like what is popular amongst the 'screamers'
they are all musicians who are more than competent on various instruments
take the class out of classic (pop) and I think you then have the direction to go in
there was even one of the spice girls tunes that I quite liked (just to show I am no music snob)
I take the corrs as a popular band but nothing like what is popular amongst the 'screamers'
they are all musicians who are more than competent on various instruments
take the class out of classic (pop) and I think you then have the direction to go in
there was even one of the spice girls tunes that I quite liked (just to show I am no music snob)
This is pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgGtbhmAiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEgGtbhmAiQ
Something similar on another thread.
Years since I've heard a decent song.
Years since I've heard a decent song.
Yesterday , i heard a couple of songs that the kids of today would like , as it were , and i thought both were Brilliant . Ive been hearing them all day .Songs called sia Titanium and sia Chandelier .
Genuinely think Stock, Aitken & Waterman and the rise of the boy bands was pretty much the end of "proper" pop music. Before then, the pop acts would still write their own songs and some would even play an instrument. Duran Duran, A-ha, Madonna, Michael Jackson etc etc. They all knew the ropes. Given they were songwriters there was an appreciation of the art and they weren't just hit factories but would stick some solid fillers on their albums too. Plus, you had the cross over so lots of other types of music would get a look in.
But then the change came and it was all about personality, likeability and attractiveness to 14-year old girls. So you had Bros, Brother Beyond, New Kids etc etc. All been downhill from there. The rise of the label getting in songwriters to create hits by committee, and from there the rise of the uber-songwriter for hire who merely hires singers to perform his songs while he prances about at the back behind some decks.
Final nail has been youtube and spotify and the fact that no-one pays for music any more. There's no money in it for struggling up and comers. So why bother. It's all so hegemonic nowadays. Anyone on the fringes aren't getting picked up and invested in as there's so little return so now we're in the land of every song sounding the same as the last one.
But then the change came and it was all about personality, likeability and attractiveness to 14-year old girls. So you had Bros, Brother Beyond, New Kids etc etc. All been downhill from there. The rise of the label getting in songwriters to create hits by committee, and from there the rise of the uber-songwriter for hire who merely hires singers to perform his songs while he prances about at the back behind some decks.
Final nail has been youtube and spotify and the fact that no-one pays for music any more. There's no money in it for struggling up and comers. So why bother. It's all so hegemonic nowadays. Anyone on the fringes aren't getting picked up and invested in as there's so little return so now we're in the land of every song sounding the same as the last one.
Porcy has hit the nail on the head. The industry has completely changed over the last few years and record companies will go for the safest option, i.e the songs with the widest appeal to their buying public. Just listen to any commercial pop radio station. Where I work you have young to middle aged ladies singing along to the likes of Sheeran, Jess Glynn, Grande etc. on heart fm.
They are hugely popular with wide appeal, so maybe they will become the classic pop of tommorroww
They are hugely popular with wide appeal, so maybe they will become the classic pop of tommorroww
You're looking in the wrong places.
Plenty of really good music out there still and I'd argue Spotify has enabled you to listen at very little cost, to any number of bands /acts you haven't heard of before but you may like if you give them a crack (Lost Minute, The Dirty Nil, Callow Saints, Babyteeth, The Old Pink House).
Radio is garbage but then you knew that anyway - having to listen to somebody else's idea of 'taste'. Ugh!
Live music of course, is now the only place where bands can make money and that's thriving.
Plenty of really good music out there still and I'd argue Spotify has enabled you to listen at very little cost, to any number of bands /acts you haven't heard of before but you may like if you give them a crack (Lost Minute, The Dirty Nil, Callow Saints, Babyteeth, The Old Pink House).
Radio is garbage but then you knew that anyway - having to listen to somebody else's idea of 'taste'. Ugh!
Live music of course, is now the only place where bands can make money and that's thriving.
A fella named calvin harris is supposed to be good but i heard about 6 of his stuff and i didn't like any .
Porcupine basically spells out the situation as to why things have changed. Amy Winehouse was perhaps the last great Uk pop star who combined her own songwriting with talent and had something to say. She is sadly missed. Very very few pop songs will crossover now to become classics though a few do exist from earlier this century. Uptown Funk, Crazy, Mr Brightside, Happy etc. You might not love them but they're sure to be popular at weddings, parties etc in years to come. Probably one or two of the awful Ed Sheehan too.
What shouldn't be forgotten however, is that there is an incredible amount of excellent music out there. Unfortunately because of the record companies, the popularity of 'talent' shows, and the amount of boy and girl bands and a general dumbing down in culture this music often doesn't find itself into the mainstream. Just don't confuse it with chart music, They are generally now 2 different things.
What shouldn't be forgotten however, is that there is an incredible amount of excellent music out there. Unfortunately because of the record companies, the popularity of 'talent' shows, and the amount of boy and girl bands and a general dumbing down in culture this music often doesn't find itself into the mainstream. Just don't confuse it with chart music, They are generally now 2 different things.
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