Showsec Security staff @ Manchester Boxing venue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDi9y6Z8Xw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reDpesonJQ8

I watched that Reynard, a disgrace. Plenty of people wearing em at royal weddings ect. Trouble is at hand unless this persecution of British culture is ended.

So the old boy who used to be ever present at England football internationals and other national sporting events draped in a Union Flag suit and hat waving the national flag , would now be ejected by over-zealous , PC security guards ?

Doing as instructed, it's the higher ups who need culling.

why was the man in question allowed entrance in the first place. ??

I find this hard to believe, i just hope the security firm in question are made to answer for their actions.

Ridiculous this should be in the wider public eye answers/reasons required

I know you guys can't wait to accept what Tommy says as gospel and just go off, but you may want to see if there's an alternative reason why he might have been thrown out. Something a little smellier perhaps.

PP, i havent got a lot of time for TR myself and didnt even realise it was him that posted the video BUT the

footage and audio certainly looked like this chap was being evicted for wearing a union jack waistcoat, if that is

the case it needs bringing to light and investigating.

last night of the proms might be interesting next year,

I think showsec need to come out and explain what happened certainly. Just can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with that waistcoat. I mean, god knows why anyone would choose to wear that like, but we can't just throw people out for bad dress sense.

But there are a couple of reports that there are things that went on before the filming began that suggest it's not as straight forward as these victims are making out. Would hardly be the first time.

PorcupineorPineapple • December 23, 2018 12:11 PM GMT
I think showsec need to come out and explain what happened certainly. Just can't imagine why anyone would have a problem with that waistcoat. I mean, god knows why anyone would choose to wear that like, but we can't just throw people out for bad dress sense.

I know you guys can't wait to accept what Tommy says as gospel

This has little or nothing to do with Mr Robinson , yet you appear to use this as a reason to dispute the validity of the story . If the reason for this gentleman's ejection is the wearing of a waistcoat with a Union Flag design then it is precisely people like yourself that are perpetually denegrating the likes of Mr Robinson and others who seek to defend the British people and their culture , that have enabled those who wish to deny us the right to display our national flag with pride to be treated in such a manner .

Correct me if I'm wrong but the T Robinson who posted the video is the same one who's recently moved into the million pound mansion paid for by brain juice enthusiasts is he not? Hence why I brought him up. I take it the OP wasn't randomly scrolling youtube to find vids to offend him but more likely pays his dues to see every little clip Tommy deems worthy of sharing with his disciples.

The reason I doubt the validity of the story is two-fold: 1) Experience. We've seen these tragic tales time and again where the story presented turns out to be omitting some very key details in the long run. 2) There are reports from people sat close by telling a very different tale.

If it turns out to be the case that he was purely and solely kicked out for his choice of waistcoat I'll be both flabbergasted and surprised at the over-reaction by the staff. But, I'm not expecting that's the whole reason if I'm honest.

The video was posted by Scott Diiceo , who I believe was the individual who filmed it , NOT Mr Robinson .
I lifted the video from YouTube and am now aware that Mr Robinson is credited but I was previously unaware of this .
I doubt very much if any juice enthusiast has bought Mr Robinson a residential property , he apparently built his family home a few years ago , but you do seem rather preoccupied with him .

Fair enough. Let's see who's right or wrong.


If it turns out that he was ejected purely for the waistcoat then I'll come on and accept I was wrong. Trust you'll do the same if it turns out there was more than meets the lens here.

.. something not right, if it was only for the waistcoat why wasnt he turned back on entrance rather than letting

  him get seated and risking more problems, unless a member of the audience objected. ??

We will never know one way or the other . The story will just disappear and be forgotten . But it's the principle that matters . Many examples of anti-british heavy handedness by various authorities , sadly .
Who told you that buyers of grapefruit juice had bought Mr Robinson a country mansion ? Obviously you have proof , cos like you say , you don't take video evidence as proof .

something not right when folk can just accept this is true because it suits an agenda.

you cant kick somebody out for wearing a waistcoat you dont like unless you specify
these items are banned on the tickets

my mate got kicked out of midnite mass one year for dressing as santa...nothing to
do with fact he was pished, the santa suit was plastic, and he shouted last orders
when communion bell rang.

he tells a different story of that night.

Anyone with a brain cell would realise from the off that there probably is more than meets the eye, but Robinson being had and a peddler of false news is not an unheard of story is it. The first thing most people would think when hearing something like this is "there must be more to it", but where your mind is conditioned by far right websites and leaders you generally can't think beyond the end of your nose.

Out of interest SH which country do you most admire and given the chance would you like to live in ?

but where your mind is conditioned by far right websites and leaders you generally can't think beyond the end of your nose.

Did you mean 'far left' ? You could have , quite easily

And why the continued reference to Mr Robinson ? Is it essential for your narrative ?

continued reference - who was the one who posted a youtube link on to this thread of Robinson, it wasn't me - I'm also not one of his subscribers, he's your idol and obsession

Difficult to understand people living in a country they are ashamed of ufcdan, unless they can't afford to go elsewhere.

as for 'narrative' - it was your insinuation, or accusation, that the story given was that he was ejected for wearing a Uninon Jack waistcoat, when you don't really know what happened beforehand, and you've just said on another thread that if the drone flyer was someone who's name began with MO he would have had his name kept out of the media, that's what you call 'narrative', keep peddling nonsense like that lol.

he's your idol and obsession

Is he ? Would you care to prove that ?
I simply downloaded the link directly from YouTube .

As a yank I never say it's better in the US because..............but on this occasion I shall break my rule. In America the Stars and Stripes are to be revered, a country where proudly hanging your national flag doesn't seem you to be racist!

You can clearly hear the security staff say "No colours" so the issue is the waistcoat. As pointed out. Two British fighters, if anything it makes him th most neutral person there. Who's in charge of Showsec Emily Thornberry ????

To be honest dan, this is the only country I know of where the national flag is sneered at by it's own population. I see flags all over the place in other countries, the assumedly well travelled sneerers don't seem to mind that at all.

You often see the Union Flag in other countries .......................... sadly , it is usually on fire surrounded by chanting , AK47-toting natives

Well it's all a fxxking disgrace ! Oh well all I can do is be what I am

AMERICAN BY BIRTH, ENGLISH BY CHOICE

What items are not allowed into the arena?
Backpacks, holdalls, luggage, oversized bags and cushions. (Bags larger than 35cm x 40cm x 19cm will not be permitted)

In addition these items are also not permitted into the arena or anything else which we deem to ruin the enjoyment or viewing experience of others;

Glass, cans, aluminium bottles or thermoses of any kind including liquid products which can be consumed.
Flammable liquids in any container
Laser pens/pointers
Video cameras, recording devices and professional cameras
Laptop computers, iPads, Go Pro’s or tablets with filming and recording capabilities
Large/golf/metal tipped umbrellas
Knives or weapons of any kind
Illegal drugs or substances
Alcoholic beverages
Signs, banners or flags on poles, staffs or selfie sticks
Animals (except service animals to aid persons with disabilities)
Air horns, whistles, cowbells or other noise-making distractions
Projectiles (frisbees, beach balls, footballs etc)
Aerosol cans (hairspray, deodorant etc )
Fireworks, confetti or glitter bombs or sprays
Balloons
Use of wheeled footwear, skateboards
Food
Masks and helmets
Large studs and chains
Anything else which we deem to ruin the enjoyment or viewing experience of others.


Well The Waistcoat wasnt a flag or banner on  a Pole s owe can Rule that one out,

it just leaves the last line.

Anything else which we deem to ruin the enjoyment or viewing experience of others.

Just spoke to my youngest son who is currently serving in the US Marine corps, even he's seen it. We must be the biggest laughing stock on this planet !

But scandanavian_haven - wants more detail (knowing full well that the facts are there for all to see) . Then blames Tommy Robinson for helping to make it public . Shoots the messenger , again !

It doesn't take this to make us the laughing stock of the world when we have Brexit, clone incident and Nicky Henderson's winning outsider with no form beating his strongly fancied favourite in the 3.00 at Ascot yesterday!

Why has PP & SH mentioned TR on this fred ?

Have some posts been removed ?

The youtube link Ib. Posted by the one and only.

I see. Just for a minute i thought PP & SH were obsessed with TR,

They are , a perfectly clear video of an incident has been made public but rather than consider the implications they attempt to divert attention away from the facts with claims about orange juice manufacturers purchasing a castle for Mr Robinson

........... and anybody who questions their motive is labelled as 'subscriber' , 'donator' , 'obsessed fan' . It's just deflection tactics

You post a video from Tommy Robinson's Youtube channel - the person who recently put out fake news on the same channel then was forced to apologise, then you tell the people on the thread in which you posted the video from said person, that it's them who are obsessed

So desperate are you to try to turn the tables and make us feel uncomfortable about mentioning the person in your link so as to stop us referencing his previous, he is hardly the gospel of truth.

you were wrong ib.

shaven - Yesterday you quoted Sharm-El-Sheikh and Tunisian Islamic terrorist attacks as a reason why people should think carefully before travelling to North Africa .
This is not dissimilar to Mr Robinson warning people of the dangers posed by Islam within the UK , yet you continue to criticise him .
You are a hypocrite !

Biffy Clyro

I criticise his real intention, which is to make money from people like you, he also stirs up a lot of hatred and tries to tar millions with the same brush, do you see millions of muslims roaming the streets of Britain trying to attack people?

How does he make money out of me ?

do you see millions of muslims roaming the streets of Britain trying to attack people?

do you see millions of muslims roaming North Africa trying to attack people ?

"do you see millions of muslims roaming the streets of Britain trying to attack people?

My answer to that is no,and ive never seen any evidence of anyone saying that.

scandanavian_haven 2.41

There is evidence to suggest that there are up to 10,000 who pose a serious threat and many tens of thousand more who would support such attacks .
Out of a population of 4,000,000 this is a frighteningly high proportion

And in order to appease these people , we have people in our midst who would seek to criminalise anyone who wishes to bare the national flag

Scandanavian_haven Surely is not implying TR as ever stated,  millions of muslims are  roaming the streets of Britain trying to attack people? is he

We don't have 'millions' here ............. YET !
But that doesn't stop him accrediting quotes to someone who is not able to counter his claims on here .

Reynard there are 20,000 in the UK  "known to the authorities".

We seem to be straying away from the subject matter. The point is someone was evicted from a public event because he wore a waistcoat bearing the Union flag in this country.

It was the same during the Euro 96. Lambeth council ordered its workers to take their Emglish flags off their desks because it was offending the African staff.

Not completely straying from the subject matter as the point is who are they trying to placate by evicting the said person!

The Union Flag is the single most important symbol of any nations identity . More important than the National Anthem , The Monarchy / Head of State , its constitution and history etc. If you deny the people their right to display their national flag then you strike at the very heart of their national identity and it makes it possible to disenfranchise and displace them completely .

How about a new political party called "We are British, this is Britain, F**k you if you don't like it"! Of course there would be no candidate in Bradford, Newham, Tower Hamlets and a couple of other constituencies!

37 constituencies now have us in the minority on the electoral role

There doesn't need to be a new party or a right wing party, there just needs to be some common fxxking sense in this country

How about Sajid Javid Has new Leader,He will let us all fly and wear what we want.

But Dan, there aint no fn sense in the country's leaders. It is us wot have the sense but no power to change anything.

Jesus Christ, some people are hard work.

North Africa is a lot more lawless than Great Britain, poverty is rife, prospects are far lower, people are far more susceptible to being radicalised and far more quickly given the econmoic and political climate in that region. I'm not sure if you're deliberately being dim reyanrd or trying to waste people's time typing up the blindingly obvious.

Are you saying you would feel equally as safe in touristy areas in that region than you would in Britain? because atm those areas are easy targets.


Secondly Robinson has made a career out of being Anti Islam, one day the penny will drop.

Secondly Robinson has made a career out of being Anti Islam, one day the penny will drop.

I fail to see how this involves Tommy Robinson, the issue is a lad wearing a Union flag waistcoat is removed from a public place in the country where the flag IS the national flag.

Yes , but it's a stick with which to beat the likes of Mr Robinson and those who share some of his views . Deflection , simple .
The fact is , our right to wear the flag of our nation should be sacrosanct and paramount .

The fact is , our right to wear the flag of our nation should be sacrosanct and paramount

Reynard your preaching to the converted

Reynard - when Robinson shows up Asian P@edophiles and P@edo rings, I think Good.

Then I think, hold the phone, what about the white P@edo's, where are all his videos about the priests - the football coaches, the likes of Barry Banell ?

Then you draw the conclusion, that he stirs up racial hatred because he knows in a country where it's predominantly white, he can make money from it.

How many donations, and he puts up plenty of links, do you think he would get if he did indeed do the latter, he full concentrates on one section of society when, as this may be uncomfortable for you, there are many more white p@edo's, sick people exists in many races and relgions.

Unreal What About the Barmy Army  and Tennis fans at the Davis cup I have seen them Wearing Jack and George Suits

So let's get this right, one can fly the flags of proscribed terrorist organisations at protests in London, but you can't wear a Union Jack waistcoat at a boxing match. Says it all doesn't it! That's all from me so have a Merry Christmas and let's wish for peace on earth, not pieces on earth!

Merry Xmas Slicer and you all, No matter what your opinions maybe.

I think SH it's the gang mentality of the Asian rape gangs and the establishments turning a blind eye that has outraged people. Of course there is outrage about white Paedophiles they however do seem to offend singularly and not in groups, of course not all the time. And of course if you look at the figures there are more white Paedophiles than Asian but then again despite popular belief on Chit Chat Britain remains predominantly a white country.

Unreal What About the Barmy Army  and Tennis fans at the Davis cup I have seen them Wearing Jack and George Suits


Kick em out ray cists

dan, there have been plenty of reports and time dedicated on National TV to these Asian Gangs, one only has to google the name of these Northern Towns and the words Asian/p@edo to see plenty of links, I provided these a few weeks ago after one poster said there was no coverage.

Have you watch the Video Shaven ,they are clearly Saying he cannot wear a Union Jack ,,

Why didn't say " Sorry mate we know its fxxked up but can you please take your waistcoat off"

Nothing to do with ASIANS ,its the right to wear your Countries  flag we are discussing

White paedophiles account for approx. 85% of paedophilia (not unusual in a country that is 85% white) .
Type 1 offences , which include grooming and rape of young children by squads of paedophiles are carried out by those of pakistani-muslim heritage in approx. 83% of cases (totally disproportionate in a country that is 4% muslim-pakistani heritage) .
Therein lies the problem . the disproportionate number of those from a specific background , imported into this country from overseas . This is what needs addressing , according to Mr Robinson .
You refer to priests (Catholic , I assume) and the "likes of Barry Banell" . Agreed , these crime are also abhorrent , but the subsequent trials are covered sufficiently by the media , in order that the public are both informed and aware of specific concerns . The media coverage of child grooming and rape by members of the pakistani-muslim gangs doesn't receive anything like as much media coverage , if at all , therefore Mr Robinson attempts to balance the equation by bringing these trials to the attention of the wider public .
What makes it worse , according to some , is that the white paedophiles are already in our midst , already present within our society . Whereas the pakistani-muslim grooming gangs are an imported cultural epidemic who , it now transpires , have religious text and scripture to justify their evil campaign .

To old to scream the odds now but 20 years ago I'd of probably made it my business, 40 years ago a punch in the ear would of been the order of the day

Regarding Pakistan, boxer Amir Khans Mob have Both the Pakistan Flag and Union Jack on display ..

There was an interesting item on Newsnight last week about a supposedly right wing group. Women first. The woman being interviewed said she had been condemning of Catholic priest Paedophiles and never had a problem. The second she turned her attention to Asian grooming gangs things soon became uncomfortable for her from the authorities. This is something they don't seem to understand, their actions or inaction fuel the flames.

And , yet again , SH and PP have deflected a thread away from topic (the ejection of a gentleman from a sporting arena for wearing the national flag) and on to Tommy Robinson and paedophiles (including Catholic priests and football coaches) .............................. and I fell for it

Infact I think I have seen them with the George Colours as well

Given the fact that you posted a video from his channel and the fact provided no context to the video other than insinuations, hardly a surprise.

in the video as said earlier, the security guard said no colours or anything are allowed in the stadium.

This was at the Frampton v Warrington fight, by colours he must mean National colours, if that is true, then everyone going to the fight would have known before hand that was the case, assuming it's something to do with Frampton's N. Ireland background and not wanting to arouse tensions amongst fans?

Big difference between a Union flag and the Red hand of Ulster flag

shaven - is clutching at summat lol

Belfast boxer Carl Frampton goes head-to-head Luke Jackson in a highly-anticipated fight at Windsor Park this weekend.

The build-up to the interim WBO featherweight title clash stepped up a gear this as The Jackal made a public appearance in the ring in front of hundreds of fans at CastleCourt shopping centre and yesterday held a press conference ahead of the bout.

Carl Frampton Around 25,000 fans are expected to pack out the National Stadium on Saturday night for what's expected to be one of biggest sporting nights Belfast has ever witnessed. To ensure fans' safety and enjoyment ahead of the big event

Frampton's promoter, Frank Warren, has issued essential information through the Irish FA, including items prohibited from the arena.

The list includes team sports shirts as well as certain cameras and portable devices, like iPads and laptops.

Everyone entering the stadium should expect to be searched and should allow time for this ahead of arrival at the stadium.

Here's the full list of prohibited items - Backpacks, holdalls, luggage, oversized bags and cushions (bags larger than 35cm x 40cm x 19cm will not be permitted). - Other items that are not allowed include:

Team sports shirts, apparel, scarves and insignia of any kind. - Sectarian regalia. - Glass, cans, aluminium bottles or thermos flasks of any kind including liquid products which can be consumed.

Any explosives or combustible materials. - Flammable liquids of any kind in any container. Laser pens/pointers. - Video cameras and professional cameras (unless accredited media). - Laptop computers, iPads and Go Pros. - Large/golf umbrellas.

Knives or weapons of any kind, or anything that could be used as a weapon. - Illegal drugs or substances. - Alcoholic beverages.

Signs, banners or flags on poles, staffs or selfie sticks. - Animals (except service animals to aid persons with disabilities). - Air horns, whistles, cowbells, drums or other noise-making distractions. - Projectiles (Frisbees, beach balls, footballs etc). - Aerosol cans (hairspray, deodorant etc).

Fireworks, confetti or glitter bombs or sprays. - Balloons. - Use of wheeled footwear, skateboards, roller skates. - Food. - Masks and helmets. - Large studs and chains (studded belts and straps etc). - Anything else which we deem could ruin the enjoyment or viewing experience of others or that may compromise safety and public order.

Read more at: https://www.newsletter.co.uk/sport/boxing/this-is-the-list-of-banned-items-f...