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everyone ,and i mean everyone all over the world seen it.It shone brighter than the brightest star than ever shone.
ohh,ahh,7 to 7 and a half billion witnesses."i guess it would difficult to argue against that with so many witnesses"
ohh,ahh,7 to 7 and a half billion witnesses."i guess it would difficult to argue against that with so many witnesses"
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More witnesses than the population of the entire world?
brass, what time can it be seen,now or in a few hours?
the sun is a star,so i guess it must have been bright to be brighter than the sun
Many readers might be surprised to learn the population of the world has remained static for the last 2018 years.
Is that the story where God got his own mother pregnant to give birth to himself? I always thought it a bit odd but they tell me it's true.
Foinavon - Scripture is all down to interpretation but as interpretations go ....................... That's the one I'll go with
i am just after checking halley's comet out .my figures may be wrong but it was last here in 1986 ,so it arrives every 179 years give or take a few months and halley would be around in the year 1.giving that halley sometimes passes earth the far side of the sun and this side of the sun its quite possible halley passed on this side of the sun.how close to earth i dont know but i have 9 months to play with on the maths so take a bow Sica Dan you just might have solved on of the worlds mysteries.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN HALLEY.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN HALLEY.
no ,god got mary pregnant to give birth to his son Jesus,jesus is not god ,he is the son of god.
just like a guy could get his girl pregnant by artificial insemination to create his own son.
just like a guy could get his girl pregnant by artificial insemination to create his own son.
people sometimes don't believe because they can not understand.
if i told you that age means nothing in heaven you may laugh at first thought of it.
but if i took you to a grave yard and your father's headstone stated died age 27.and the grave next to it was your son stating died age 57.
when you were standing in front of the two graves age is irrelevant and you could be 90 years of age.and yet your father and son are younger than you.just like Albert Einstein says there is no such thing as time,everything happens at the same time ,but some people can not understand so they think Albert was bonkers.
if i told you that age means nothing in heaven you may laugh at first thought of it.
but if i took you to a grave yard and your father's headstone stated died age 27.and the grave next to it was your son stating died age 57.
when you were standing in front of the two graves age is irrelevant and you could be 90 years of age.and yet your father and son are younger than you.just like Albert Einstein says there is no such thing as time,everything happens at the same time ,but some people can not understand so they think Albert was bonkers.
Are you looking at Venus in the south eastern sky in the morning in the northern hemisphere?
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The World's Population when Jesus was born was about 250 million more or less.
The World's Population when Jesus was born was about 250 million more or less.
Control: "South Wales Police, what's your emergency?"
Caller: "It's not really. I just need to inform you that across the mountain there's a bright stationary object."
Control: "Right."
Caller: "If you've got a couple of minutes perhaps you could find out what it is? It's been there at least half an hour and it's still there."
Control: "It's been there for half an hour. Right. Is it actually on the mountain or in the sky?"
Caller: "It's in the air."
Control: "I will send someone up there now to check it out."
Caller: "OK."
After the police patrol car arrives, the script reveals the exchange between the control room and the police officer sent to the scene.
Control: "Alpha Zulu 20, this object in the sky, did anyone have a look at it?"
Officer: "Yes, it's the moon. Over."
A police spokeswoman said: "This was a recent example of an inappropriate 999 call to South Wales Police.
A classic from 2008.
Caller: "It's not really. I just need to inform you that across the mountain there's a bright stationary object."
Control: "Right."
Caller: "If you've got a couple of minutes perhaps you could find out what it is? It's been there at least half an hour and it's still there."
Control: "It's been there for half an hour. Right. Is it actually on the mountain or in the sky?"
Caller: "It's in the air."
Control: "I will send someone up there now to check it out."
Caller: "OK."
After the police patrol car arrives, the script reveals the exchange between the control room and the police officer sent to the scene.
Control: "Alpha Zulu 20, this object in the sky, did anyone have a look at it?"
Officer: "Yes, it's the moon. Over."
A police spokeswoman said: "This was a recent example of an inappropriate 999 call to South Wales Police.
A classic from 2008.
well then there was 250 million witnesses,its still enough people to prove with certainty that the brightest light ever seen was there.
and if there was only 250 million population ,how come the greeks and the romans killed millions upon millions every year when they controlled the world.in fact there was a census the year jesus was born.
and if there was only 250 million population ,how come the greeks and the romans killed millions upon millions every year when they controlled the world.in fact there was a census the year jesus was born.
there will be a big bright moon in manchester in a couple of weeks time,
a BIG BRIGHT BLUE MOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
a BIG BRIGHT BLUE MOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Reynard 23 Dec 18 00:56
Foinavon - Scripture is all down to interpretation
You stand a fair chance of losing your head if you suggest any other interpretation of one religious text.
Foinavon - Scripture is all down to interpretation
You stand a fair chance of losing your head if you suggest any other interpretation of one religious text.
Reynard 23 Dec 18 00:56
Foinavon - Scripture is all down to interpretation
You stand a fair chance of losing your head if you suggest any other interpretation of one religious text.
Foinavon - Scripture is all down to interpretation
You stand a fair chance of losing your head if you suggest any other interpretation of one religious text.
There was a guy called Thomas who knocked about with Jesus during his time on earth and he wrote about Jesus ,and asked jesus lots of questions and wrote down all jesus's answers,but the powers that be banned all Thomas's books.But the books were found and are on the internet().
Now i am not sure if its in the dead sea scrolls find or where they got these books ,but it gives a different story than the normal story.
you can find them under "the secrets of the bible"thomas books".
there are two sides to every story and thomas's side is different story.
).Now i am not sure if its in the dead sea scrolls find or where they got these books ,but it gives a different story than the normal story.
you can find them under "the secrets of the bible"thomas books".
there are two sides to every story and thomas's side is different story.
Brassy, you state that Jesus is not God. I think many orthodox Christians will disagree with you.
Christians believe that Jesus was a human being who was also fully God.
Whenever I attend a christian service such as a wedding or funeral, the minister talks of God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit. Here we enter into the conundrum of the Trinity. If, as you state, Jesus is not God, then you are postulating a Duality unless of course you also disavow the Holy Spirit in which case you are a Unitarian. Why not disavow them all and be an atheist like me?
Christians believe that Jesus was a human being who was also fully God.
Whenever I attend a christian service such as a wedding or funeral, the minister talks of God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit. Here we enter into the conundrum of the Trinity. If, as you state, Jesus is not God, then you are postulating a Duality unless of course you also disavow the Holy Spirit in which case you are a Unitarian. Why not disavow them all and be an atheist like me?
jesus never claimed to be the god,and never said he was the son of god,when asked who he was he replied "who do they say i am.
he did declare himself "THE SON OF MAN" and spoke often of his father as if his father was god,and he acted as if he was a god.
lets say he was a strange guy who know the answer to everything,and he was always correct with his answers even when nobody understood him.
And best of all he know the future before it happened,and could make the blind see,and cripples walk,turn water into wine,raise a guy from the dead,heal the sick so on,this guy an Albert Einstein 10 fold.
he did declare himself "THE SON OF MAN" and spoke often of his father as if his father was god,and he acted as if he was a god.
lets say he was a strange guy who know the answer to everything,and he was always correct with his answers even when nobody understood him.
And best of all he know the future before it happened,and could make the blind see,and cripples walk,turn water into wine,raise a guy from the dead,heal the sick so on,this guy an Albert Einstein 10 fold.
In the spirit of Christmas, I will hold out a holly branch to you Brassy. Mind how you grasp it. 
the trinity is a mystery,but you can be a father, a son,and a holy spirit,being a holy spirit in the sense that you can be one with yourself,and block out every thing in reality and just be an unconscious state in mind.
for example=if i tell you to think about your little toe on your left foot.as soon as you think of it ,it becomes your reality,
but 99.99% of the time its not there in your consciousness,only when you focus on it ,it becomes reality,yet its there all the time.
but if you wish you can put yourself into a state of unconscious and block out all thoughts ,and then when you are at one with yourself you will get the answer to all from the collective consciousness of the universe.in lay mans terms it simply means you are using parts of the brain that you have that you have never used before.
i hope this makes sense.and i hope i put a new slant on the old saying"use your brains"
for example=if i tell you to think about your little toe on your left foot.as soon as you think of it ,it becomes your reality,
but 99.99% of the time its not there in your consciousness,only when you focus on it ,it becomes reality,yet its there all the time.
but if you wish you can put yourself into a state of unconscious and block out all thoughts ,and then when you are at one with yourself you will get the answer to all from the collective consciousness of the universe.in lay mans terms it simply means you are using parts of the brain that you have that you have never used before.
i hope this makes sense.and i hope i put a new slant on the old saying"use your brains"
foinavon,you shine on this forum like the star i posted in the title of this thread,happy christmas to you and all your family.talk soon,Brass
Brass - Halley's comet hadn't been invented then It was named in the 1950's after a rock singer named Bill whose band were called the comets.
It was named in the 1950's after a rock singer named Bill whose band were called the comets.
I remember them, Ringo was the drummer but then he joined the Hale-Bopps.
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