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17 Dec 18
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Done nothing wrong....then nothing to fear ?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46584184
Christmas shoppers could have their faces scanned in central London this week as part of a police trial.
The Met says it will invite people to take part in testing the technology rather than scanning people covertly.
The trials will be held near Soho, Piccadilly Circus and Leicester Square on Monday and Tuesday.
Privacy campaigner Big Brother Watch has described the use of such technology as "authoritarian, dangerous and lawless".
In a statement the group said that "monitoring innocent people in public is a breach of fundamental rights to privacy and freedom of speech and assembly".
Officers say the software can identify people wanted by the police or the courts.
An investigation by Big Brother Watch earlier this year suggested the technology flagged up a "staggering" number of innocent people as suspects.
The Met said "clear uniformed" officers would carry out the trials and distribute information leaflets to the public for about eight hours on both days.
It added anyone who declined to be scanned during the deployment would "not be viewed as suspicious".
The UK's information watchdog started investigating the use of facial recognition technology by police forces in November.
Elizabeth Denham, who was appointed Information Commissioner in July 2016, said in a blog published earlier this year that the technology could bring "significant public safety benefits".
However, she said its application could also be "particularly intrusive", and represented a "real step change in the way law-abiding people are monitored as they go about their daily lives".
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46584184
Christmas shoppers could have their faces scanned in central London this week as part of a police trial.
The Met says it will invite people to take part in testing the technology rather than scanning people covertly.
The trials will be held near Soho, Piccadilly Circus and Leicester Square on Monday and Tuesday.
Privacy campaigner Big Brother Watch has described the use of such technology as "authoritarian, dangerous and lawless".
In a statement the group said that "monitoring innocent people in public is a breach of fundamental rights to privacy and freedom of speech and assembly".
Officers say the software can identify people wanted by the police or the courts.
An investigation by Big Brother Watch earlier this year suggested the technology flagged up a "staggering" number of innocent people as suspects.
The Met said "clear uniformed" officers would carry out the trials and distribute information leaflets to the public for about eight hours on both days.
It added anyone who declined to be scanned during the deployment would "not be viewed as suspicious".
The UK's information watchdog started investigating the use of facial recognition technology by police forces in November.
Elizabeth Denham, who was appointed Information Commissioner in July 2016, said in a blog published earlier this year that the technology could bring "significant public safety benefits".
However, she said its application could also be "particularly intrusive", and represented a "real step change in the way law-abiding people are monitored as they go about their daily lives".
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We didn't consent to this?
Another notch on the road to being an all out dictatorship
Another notch on the road to being an all out dictatorship
I sometimes have to go into central London and you have to keep your eyes out constantly for the dodgy characters that are around.....must put off a lot of tourists and Brits from going in.
These cameras could create a safe area which could gradually be enlarged.
They will soon sort out the false matches.
These cameras could create a safe area which could gradually be enlarged.
They will soon sort out the false matches.
no problems with the trial, so long as they publish details of their findings as to
if it works or not...
shirley it can only monitor folk already in system, some chap walks along
he will be unrecognised if not in system, so will be allocated a number(perhaps?)
until such time as facebook flags him up as d1cky from billericay ?
if it works or not...
shirley it can only monitor folk already in system, some chap walks along
he will be unrecognised if not in system, so will be allocated a number(perhaps?)
until such time as facebook flags him up as d1cky from billericay ?
didnt they try it somewhere in wales with a below 10% success rate?
Donny
Social media will be used within it that's the point
Once the snap is taken it'll then process all of social media and flag you up, one big data gathering exercise and its disgusting
Social media will be used within it that's the point
Once the snap is taken it'll then process all of social media and flag you up, one big data gathering exercise and its disgusting
Donny remember reading (cannot think what paper maybe the sun yes i know)
that they can or will beable to crossreference with any picture on social media
if not now then soon, Another rise in the hoodie brigade
that they can or will beable to crossreference with any picture on social media
if not now then soon, Another rise in the hoodie brigade
didnt they try it somewhere in wales with a below 10% success rate?
Tbf a sheeps a sheep
Tbf a sheeps a sheep
They did show us what we had coming though in all those movies
Minority report is about predicting future crimes.
Face Rec. is just matching people in a certain area with IDs of criminals.
Face Rec. is just matching people in a certain area with IDs of criminals.
Ideal technology for Christmas when trying to remember names of relatives
Muslim women and criminal copycats might have an advantage here was common practice in Afghanistan and the likes amongst terrorists evading capture.
Good to time to open a Burqa shop in London not that there'll ever be a bad one.
It won't hurt at all - you will just receive a little prick. And there are a lot of them around these days and they WILL control you. EVENTUALLY.
will be interesting to see if folk put photos on social media in future.
easy enough to wear masks if entering a zone that is controlled
lots of folks on dating sites, use false images anyway...so i am told
its a minefield in reality as is all of this crimefighting stuff, as i dont
trust the folk in charge of this country, to use the info for solely good
reasons. (good as in just and proper)
id certainly be happy for this trial to happen, then have proper debate.
ive seen previous results, but can you trust how accurate they are or are not?
easy enough to wear masks if entering a zone that is controlled
lots of folks on dating sites, use false images anyway...so i am told
its a minefield in reality as is all of this crimefighting stuff, as i dont
trust the folk in charge of this country, to use the info for solely good
reasons. (good as in just and proper)
id certainly be happy for this trial to happen, then have proper debate.
ive seen previous results, but can you trust how accurate they are or are not?
Saw a programme on this in Japan extreme levels of control.
Burqas and masks would have to be banned as in France.
I am just chuckling to myself thinking about the hoo ha from certain people and groups about stop and search. Oh fkn ha ha ha. I guess they won't be able to see faces through slits either.
It's totally minority report which was also largely about mass surveilance by an authoritarian government.
I just read b*stards from the blarite labour party (via a think tank run by the utterly odious adonis) who wanted to bring in their mass surveilance ID scheme are talking about resurrecting it again to help "solve Brexit".
I just read b*stards from the blarite labour party (via a think tank run by the utterly odious adonis) who wanted to bring in their mass surveilance ID scheme are talking about resurrecting it again to help "solve Brexit".
its got a 100% success rate or 100% failure rate depending on your view because every person so far who,s had their photo taken has proived to be innoicent members of the public,not one offender been arrested or charged
when i said mask, i dont just mean plastic ones, but those applied
by actors too.
by actors too.
no 1tp, interested how many it spots and identifies and proven accurate.
if they were looking for crooks when trialing it they should have started in the house of commons 
Dec 17, 2018 -- 2:43PM, The Leopard wrote:
Minority report is about predicting future crimes.Face Rec. is just matching people in a certain area with IDs of criminals.
It also had all the face recognition tech in it as well
In that film they were able to scan the eye and it immediately knew who it was
People will be forced into having their ids taken imo
It'll be a case of do it or no social points = no food etc
People will be forced into having their ids taken imo
It'll be a case of do it or no social points = no food etc
It wont be long until they start selling the idea of scanning your eyes for ID checks being a convenient thing
No carrying cards or money
Phones are already being accepted to pay for things in supermarkets?
No carrying cards or money
Phones are already being accepted to pay for things in supermarkets?
At the click of a button you become a non citizen.
Imagine an extreme left corbyn government having that power?
Imagine an extreme left corbyn government having that power?
brought in by an extreme far right tory party
The ID card scheme (which was far more than an ID card, it was huge) was a New Labour we dream and the various guys proposing it again in the media today are the very same New LAbour people...
lots of films with facial recognition and sat tracking
people probably think its available now, maybe it is, and this trial
is just a bluff to get us caught up with mi5 and co
people probably think its available now, maybe it is, and this trial
is just a bluff to get us caught up with mi5 and co
The germans controversially were trialling it a year or two ago without asking permission, it was controversial as they are touchy about it given their relationship with the STASI and so on. (Which Blair seemed to see as a role model!).
they even want to 'chip' employees for 'health' reasons yo ho ho
in sweden there has is a scheme where people get microchips inserted in them and its been oversubscribed
Amber Rudd is back in cabinet and now this happens.
Just takes the Snoopers Charter 1 step further.
Just takes the Snoopers Charter 1 step further.
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