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brassneck
17 Dec 18 09:15
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if the people that voted leave had voted remain and the remainers had voted leave the remainers would have won and there would be no talk of a second vote.
The leave voters must be respected and its their democratic right to have their vote upheld.
now if the people of the UK were asked this question"do you want another vote on brexit"the answer from the people would be a resounding no that would unite the whole country.
the reason being that most people would feel that their democratic right and their answer which was no . should be upheld.
then with the country united all that would be needed is to have an election and get rid of all politicians who did not respect the democratic right of people when they voted no in the first vote.Then tell the EU "WE ARE LEAVING FULL STOP THE 29TH MARCH "But we want 3 years to sort things out.
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By:
Crisp77
When: 17 Dec 18 09:21
Do I still get the 30% promised discount when I buy a house?
By:
brassneck
When: 17 Dec 18 09:28
A NO DEAL will result in all houses going up for sale for 20 grand- 50 grand but nobody will have a job to buy one.Sad
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 17 Dec 18 09:34
The only point in a 2nd referendum is the hope that people will vote to remain is it not?

If we voted for Brexit we would be back where we are now.

Governments should not offer referendums if they want to know what the people thinkCrazy
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 17 Dec 18 09:35
or give people the choice?
By:
brassneck
When: 17 Dec 18 09:35
no one has mentioned the word" Famine "yet,but it could be on its way.
By:
UBLE/REGY
When: 17 Dec 18 09:36
ShockedShocked
By:
1st time poster
When: 17 Dec 18 09:38
3 years to sort it out ,that,ll be 6 years since the vote, if the tories are forced into another election that,ll be 3 in less than 6 years, but a 2nd reff is undemocratic, Sad
By:
brassneck
When: 17 Dec 18 09:43
and how are the government going to control stock piling of food from the 1st march.everyone talks about it happening next year but next year is only two weeks awayShockedand then the word" panic"will set in,Nero fiddled while Rome burned"
the people in power need to get off their backsides and cut out the filibustering.
By:
RacingCert
When: 17 Dec 18 11:05
From wiki on the Gordian Knot.

Legend

The Phrygians were without a king, but an oracle at Telmissus (the ancient capital of Lycia) decreed that the next man to enter the city driving an ox-cart should become their king. A peasant farmer named Gordias drove into town on an ox-cart and was immediately declared king.[1] Out of gratitude, his son Midas dedicated the ox-cart[2] to the Phrygian god Sabazios (whom the Greeks identified with Zeus) and tied it to a post with an intricate knot of cornel bark (Cornus mas). The knot was later described by Roman historian Quintus Curtius Rufus as comprising “several knots all so tightly entangled that it was impossible to see how they were fastened.”[3]

The ox-cart still stood in the palace of the former kings of Phrygia at Gordium in the fourth century BC when Alexander arrived, at which point Phrygia had been reduced to a satrapy or province of the Persian Empire. An oracle had declared that any man who could unravel its elaborate knots was destined to become ruler of all of Asia.[3] Alexander wanted to untie the knot but struggled to do so without success. He then reasoned that it would make no difference how the knot was loosed, so he drew his sword and sliced it in half with a single stroke.[3] In an alternative version of the story, Alexander loosed the knot by pulling the linchpin from the yoke.[3]

.... have to think that slicing the knot with a single stroke, ie hard Brexit is best.

Having said that it’s a bit harsh blaming it all on Gordon Brown after all we did go in under Ted Heath.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 17 Dec 18 11:15
Three years to adjust for a hard Brexit - don't make me laugh.

All they'd do is kick the can down the road until time ran out hoping for something to turn up, and if it didn't then rush everything through at the last minute. 

Leave on the 29 March without a deal and just get on with it.

They want to trade with us, and us with them, nothing is going to prevent that.
By:
brassneck
When: 17 Dec 18 20:06
no trading with Eu if there is a no deal,so the only other trading will be with Africa.with no Plains and little coal or petrol or oil it will row boats to Africa to trade.America are planning dropping food parcels if they get permission from the EU,But with no petrol for cars it will be the look of the draw where you live,but mountain bikes would help if you could get one.Grin
By:
Escapee
When: 17 Dec 18 20:20
Why are the brexiters frightened of another referendum?

If Brexit is the will of the people then surely it will be reflected in a second referendum?

Are you worried that now the reality of Brexit is a lot clearer than the lies peddled by both side at the 1st referendum would put the Brexiters in the Minority in a 2nd referendum?

Are you worried that a new Brexit minority will then be treated like the 49% remainers minority has been treated?


49/51% It was a British draw, it was win win for both sides, but our politicians have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory for both sides.


LOLOLOLOLCrazy
By:
Just Checking
When: 17 Dec 18 20:25
Keep asking the question until you get the answer you want, then never ask the question again. That is the EU way.
The SNP also believe in this noble philosophy.
By:
brassneck
When: 17 Dec 18 20:36
its all a big con to fool the public ,and jeremy and theresa are playing the lead rolls,
when theresa deal comes round the labour party will  vote for theresa's deal in the national interest,but the time delay is to try to put pressure on the EU to give more.
next april brexit will be sorted out Jeremy will be PM and Theresa will have retired and will be writing her best seller book.(HOW I GOT REVENGE)
and all the back stabbers will have lost their seats in the early APRIL ELECTION.
By:
brassneck
When: 17 Dec 18 20:54
jacob rees mogg will survive because he is in on the plan of three.
1 theresa gets her vote passed and retires
2 Jacob Rees mogg becomes new con leader
3 JEREMY becomes the new PM.
By:
wit-ham
When: 17 Dec 18 21:58
I still think the only way to solve this is that we build a Trump wall around the M25 and everybody who voted remain goes
inside and those who voted leave stay outside of course if you wish to leave or enter the M25 normal tariffs apply
both ways or you know what we could even do away with them.
By:
jollyswagman
When: 17 Dec 18 22:06
i volunteer to collect the tariffs
By:
wit-ham
When: 17 Dec 18 22:11
The Frogs already do that at the Dartford tunnel
By:
kincsem
When: 17 Dec 18 22:13
900+ days since the vote and no action.
By:
Baphornet
When: 17 Dec 18 22:18
Ecellent analogy, RacingCert; i enjoyed that
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 17 Dec 18 22:50
brassneck.
may's next move is chechmate.

tories lose if they calla referendum.
lose if they cant produce a compromised brexit.

they wont get in for decades if she cant hold on to her deal.

its actually all camerons fault for offering the referendum as part fo the manifesto which won them the election.

but they didnt have the foresight to see whta damage its gonna do to them.

its gonna be fun watching the tory sc** wither away.

they ****ed up big time
By:
casemoney
When: 17 Dec 18 22:54
Lets have a 2nd vote by Nation  Krankee and the Team will be delighted,  Norn will vote to stay let them ,  Wales and England
will Leave  , Get the wall back up ,and Let the Norns sort their own Buisness out .Grin

Imagine the Disaster for the English remainers if that was the Call LaughGrinGrinLaugh
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 17 Dec 18 23:06
the disaster is the brexidiots have potentially stirred up an issue in northern ireland as well as highlighting once again the empire was nothing more than what hitler wanted...ie...we are murdering sc** just like hiter
By:
casemoney
When: 18 Dec 18 00:18
Shocked
By:
brassneck
When: 18 Dec 18 00:38
Theresa may is a clever woman,she has trapped everyone,
all the other politicians are far from blockheads and they all know that a NO DEAL is crazy thinking.
but all the other politicians have no choice ,its Theresa May DEAL or No deal.and thats a no brainer,its hobsons choice,
THE UK know they cant go no deal and that leaves theresa's deal.END OF STORY.
By:
smartie3
When: 18 Dec 18 21:09
Im beginning to think she wanted No deal all along!
By:
1st time poster
When: 18 Dec 18 21:15
senior cabinet ministers drip feeding bits and bobs about the dupcoming back into the fold and softening their red lines about the text has to be removed from the legal document, it will be a mighty dup climb down if a few nice words and a start date for possible 5 to 10 years of gtrade talks gets them back in the tent
By:
moisok
When: 18 Dec 18 21:25
I WANT A RE VOTE ON THE 1974 ONE - I AM NO LONGER SATISFIED WITH THE CON JOB THAT IT WOZ
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