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alun2005
16 Dec 18 00:24
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14 convicted to date. There will of course be more, although whether any of the stolen money is returned is less clear.

All of this was entirely predictable, and predicted. Those who did so were called "racists".

13 out of the 14 cases described below resulted in custodial sentences, so ironically the taxpayer will continue footing the bill for their upkeep.

A truly nauseating trail of crime. Some of the stories below beggar belief.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6498099/The-14-Grenfell-ghouls-stole-670-000-disasters-relief-fund-lies-deceit.html
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Report DenzilPenberthy December 16, 2018 12:49 AM GMT
My auntie has had her full working life as an employee of the benefits system mostly investigating and proving blatant thievery from shyte like above it's far more common than we hear about.
Report InsiderTrader December 16, 2018 9:35 AM GMT
Strange they only show 1 white person in the photos. They should show all the photos or none of the photos.
Report Injera December 16, 2018 10:58 AM GMT
Yesterday's Times said the fraud is £1m. Shocked
Report Dr Crippen December 16, 2018 11:12 AM GMT
Pandora1963 must be sleeping rough judging by his tone.
Report pandora1963 December 16, 2018 11:14 AM GMT
I thought you'd be along, another heartless bustard.
Report Dr Crippen December 16, 2018 11:14 AM GMT
So next time you stroll down your high street and see a beggar wrapped up in a blanket, give him a mince pie or something - it might be Pandora1963.
Report Dr Crippen December 16, 2018 11:16 AM GMT
''Buddy can you spare a dime?''
Report Dr Crippen December 16, 2018 11:20 AM GMT
That's me put my name down for a ban.
Report jumper3 December 16, 2018 11:31 AM GMT
Always going to be lowlifes who will scam, regardless of where they have come from. We just need to have systems and processes in place to deal with them. Looking at the Grenfell scams, the scammers are pretty thick as they were always going to get caught, given the attention and focus on the tragedy.
Report Dr Crippen December 16, 2018 11:37 AM GMT
What is disturbing is how ready the authorities were to believe them.

Yet everyone else who tries to claim anything has to jump through hoop after hoop in order to be considered.
Report Injera December 16, 2018 11:45 AM GMT
With most tragedies/scandals, the initial event is followed by either a cover up or corruption or both.

Hillsborough
Rotherham, Telford, Newcastle etc etc
MPs expenses
Savile
Alder hey
And now Grenfell.

These mugs have taken up to £1m. That won't be returned. What's more, the taxpayer has to fund their porridge AND fund them when they get out. (Fraudsters aren't going to find jobs easy to come by..)

All of these resources could get all the homeless housed tomorrow morning.
Report akabula December 16, 2018 11:59 AM GMT
How about a gallery of the people who lost absolutely everything that day, and are still waiting to be properly housed.

For properly housed read million pound mansions.
Report moisok December 16, 2018 12:40 PM GMT
how about all those sub sub-letters in the tower that they let off!!!???
Report Dr Crippen December 16, 2018 12:42 PM GMT
And illegal immigrants.
Report moisok December 16, 2018 12:42 PM GMT
why is it in pandora's so called response he resorts to abuse - but this is the progressive tactic is it not

we bend over backwards as a country to help these people - we do it continuously and it seems they are very grateful

except ..............
Report Dr Crippen December 16, 2018 12:52 PM GMT
why is it in pandora's so called response he resorts to abuse

The topic must be pretty close to home to have flushed him out. It just shows what a berk he is by resorting to abuse.
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 16, 2018 1:09 PM GMT
Stealing from a pot of money set up after a tragedy that cost so many lives has to worst type of crime around.
Report UBLE/REGY December 16, 2018 1:13 PM GMT
Unfortunately everybody scams whether high lives or low lives, is my observation.

But these scams seem particularly bad in the circumstances, the people who survived should count themselves lucky to be alive,

a lot are not!
Report saddo December 16, 2018 1:15 PM GMT
Not many countries would allow people here illegally to remain, and heap  millions upon them.
Report moisok December 16, 2018 1:29 PM GMT
fortunately the answer is to condemn you all as khants and ray cysts  - so that is that topic dealt with and now I feel good having said so and now occupy the moral high ground

how dare you raise the topic - it makes us people in the islington dinner circuit feel uncomfortable when you raise the plight of the lesser little people - there's no chance of them moving near us though  IS THERE!!!!!!!!!!!   argh!!!!!!!!
Report casemoney December 16, 2018 1:44 PM GMT
The likes of Pandora do not want crimes of this Nature Highlighted , The same with our Diverse rapist Friends ,Say Nothing

Their Diverse Dreams have become Nightmares ..

Agree with Crisp poor Old pan appears to have got himself into a Furious state Grin
Report casemoney December 16, 2018 1:54 PM GMT
He used his fictitious tale to claim more than £30,000 from Kensington and Chelsea council and charity Rugby Portobello Trust, and when his ruse was rumbled, insisted he had been rendered temporarily insane because he had been fasting for Ramadan   LaughLaughLaugh
Report moisok December 16, 2018 2:02 PM GMT
they get all these handouts and then want more
Report saddo December 16, 2018 2:02 PM GMT
Nowt to do with Islam, unless it suits  Laugh
Report moisok December 16, 2018 2:05 PM GMT
do you think we would get public money to cure us of our phobias?
Report saddo December 16, 2018 2:06 PM GMT
Yes, courtesy of HMP, we'll all be in there if the wringers get their way.
Report woundedknee December 16, 2018 2:15 PM GMT
Loads of illegals being kept in.. 4* Hotels ..Free Board inc Meals 24/7.. dyou really think they want housing... ONLY IN THE UK Laugh
Report casemoney December 16, 2018 2:25 PM GMT
YES SOME ARE THEN SENT ON THEIR WAY WITH £500  ,TO TIDE THEM OVER FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS TILL THEY COME BACK ..

THE BEST POLICY IS TO SAY THAT YOU ARE  15  EVEN IF YOUR 40  TAKES AGES FOR THE AGE TESTS Grin
Report bullraider February 22, 2019 2:03 AM GMT
Watch this
the man who predicted the grenfell fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxMEAAOTt30
Report bullraider February 22, 2019 2:03 AM GMT
Was it a land grab?
Report boxingthefox February 22, 2019 2:29 AM GMT
See my previous posts, go on, educate yourself
Report the old nanny ;-) March 29, 2019 11:15 AM GMT
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47742333

Secret Agent gets 5 years

Another 50 large trousered Sad
Report alun2005 March 29, 2019 12:18 PM GMT
There can be no excuse whatsoever for the disgraceful actions of the Grenfell Fraudsters. They are a cancer on this country.

Can't wait to see David Lammy's unequivocal and ferocious condemnation of these vile criminals who perpetrated these Grenfell Frauds. We know, for example, from a past tweet that he was upset when someone stole some money from what was left of the tower block, when police were supposedly guarding it as a crime scene.

I can only begin to wonder then just how INCANDESCENT with SEETHING RAGE he will be about the subsequent big money frauds that have been committed, quite independently, by fraudsters who had a connection with the the tower block. He will also doubtless wish to lambast those in authority who allowed Illegal Immigrants to live in that place.

Go get 'em Davy Lad.

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https://twitter.com/davidlammy/status/907296029225177090
Report alun2005 March 29, 2019 1:17 PM GMT
One of our former Chit Chat comrades on here just emailed me. He informed me that he posted the above BBC News link about the latest example of proven Grenfell Fraud, onto a 'Justice For Grenfell' social media site today. 

His posting was unceremoniously and inexplicably deleted within 2 minutes.

Doesn't 'Justice' for the Grenfell victims include rooting out and exposing any criminal fraudsters who have disgracefully tried jumped on the bandwagon after the tragedy?
Report mouse muldoon March 29, 2019 1:30 PM GMT
BBC links only acceptable on these pages, the rest of the world knows them for what they are now.
Report akabula March 29, 2019 9:16 PM GMT
How readily he accepts the story.
Did the money exist?
A large sum as well, quite convenient.
Report the old nanny ;-) March 29, 2019 10:11 PM GMT
Scandalous the Numbers  Bang at it and Caught , But how of them Felt the Heat , Straight down to Heathrow Few bags in the Bank and a bit of a Tour back home , Back over when its all forgotten Plain
Report alun2005 October 23, 2019 3:40 PM BST
More news on the despicable Grenfell Fraudsters, addicted to free cash from the British taxpayer. 

I would imagine Shadow Home Secretary Diane Abbott will be livid about the scale of this crime, and calling for the most draconian sentences for anyone found guilty of this fraud, and more police resources to be made available to go after the crooks. 

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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/grenfell-fraudsters-stole-775-000-184013347.html
Report Steve Voltage October 23, 2019 4:54 PM BST
Disgusting people. Keep up the good work please Alun
Report moisok October 23, 2019 5:38 PM BST
didn't they give amnesty to sub letters and sub sub letters??
Report lovegod October 24, 2019 4:43 PM BST
A certain baroness might say that if they were white they'd have siphoned of more.
Report Coachbuster October 24, 2019 6:16 PM BST
£400 a night hotels ?   Shocked
Report Coachbuster October 24, 2019 6:33 PM BST
^ seem's that's where most of the money went  ...so if it is returned it would have to be returned by the hotels in question as a goodwill gesture  ...would seem in bad form  for hotels  such as the Hilton to pocket this cash  otherwise
Report saddo October 24, 2019 6:38 PM BST
Why would Hilton take responsibility for some council saps doling out public money to anyone who asked for it?
Report Injera October 24, 2019 6:45 PM BST
lovegod - I'm assuming you are referencing this?!

Stephen Lawrence's mother has been accused of making a "disgraceful and unfair slur" after claiming that firefighters tackling the Grenfell Tower blaze were racist.

"Had that been a block full of white people, they’d have done everything to get them out as fast as possible and make sure that they did what they needed to do," she said, in an interview with Channel 4 News last week.

Police Federation's Chairman John Apter: "It mattered not the colour of their skin, the Firefighters and all 999 colleagues did their very best.

it’s shameful that such an accusation has been made."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/20/stephen-lawrences-mother-claims-firefighters-tackling-grenfell/
Report moisok October 24, 2019 6:55 PM BST
You may understand that the white racists are in a minority now.  I am convinced that it has switched and I believe a lot of it is coming from the other side of the coin.  Just my opinion.
Report Injera October 24, 2019 7:19 PM BST
A nasty slur moisok.

Yours faithfully
Jon Snow
Report casemoney October 24, 2019 9:09 PM BST
Would Imagine a few Grants Special Trip over ,Put the Claim in and back out ASAP ...
Report lovegod October 25, 2019 6:13 AM BST
Injera, I am indeed.
Report Dr Crippen October 25, 2019 9:10 AM BST
''it’s shameful that such an accusation has been made."

Charities of this nature can be expected to make these allegations, they need to stir up outrage in order to stimulate cash flow.
Without that they don't have a living, which is basically what they're in business for.
Report saddo October 25, 2019 9:12 AM BST
A disgusting thing to say, has anyone challenged her on this or will she get away with her racism?
Report alun2005 November 28, 2019 9:05 PM GMT
Well, well, well, who would have predicted this?

ANOTHER Grenfell Fraudster emerges and is convicted. Just the £96k handed to him on this occasion by "investigators".  No news yet as regards whether it would be ungentlemanly to ask him to return it though.

Make no mistake, London MPs, Diane Abbott and David Lammy will surely be emerging from their Election Hideaways this very evening to condemn this fraudster in the most vociferous fashion. Maybe they'll also finally find time to have a go at the umpteen convictions that have preceded this one as well. 

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https://uk.yahoo.com/news/man-falsely-claimed-survived-grenfell-fire-jailed-96k-131700683.html
Report alun2005 November 28, 2019 9:23 PM GMT
More details from this latest repugnant case.

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https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/28/grenfell-fraudster-jailed-lying-sleeping-tower-get-95000-11231496/
Report Crisp77 November 28, 2019 9:29 PM GMT
£60k for 9 months of hotels plus £30 a day for food. Who authorised that?
Report casemoney November 28, 2019 9:37 PM GMT
All boxes Ticked Book in Hand and Suitable sweatshirt , Then tried to make out he was suffering from PTSD PlainPlain

How many have got the Lot and dissapeared is the Question , How many were even investigated ??
Report casemoney November 28, 2019 9:41 PM GMT
FOR ALL OUR LIB LUV FRIENDS THAT FINGER IS FOR YOU >>>>>>>>

Report Crisp77 November 28, 2019 9:43 PM GMT
Slack Elves Kelso Butter fan I see
Report casemoney November 28, 2019 9:54 PM GMT
Listen , he walked into the Claims Office , they seen the Shirt , he was swiftly ushered to the express service desk ..

This way Alvin you have got the Lot Grin
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