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Baphornet
14 Dec 18 20:11
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the name of the new 3rd party?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/12/14/watch-live-jacob-rees-mogg-nigel-farage-speak-tonights-leave/
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Report Just Checking December 14, 2018 8:16 PM GMT
I'm not registered for the telegraph but if it indicates the Tories might split, under FPTP, that's a surefire way of ensuring that communist scumbag and his soviet of followers gets in and puts the country back 40 to 400 years...
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 14, 2018 8:16 PM GMT
Read this.

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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/14/delingpole-looming-brexit-betrayal-its-even-worse-than-you-feared/
Report Just Checking December 14, 2018 8:20 PM GMT
"Tony Blair’s filthy paw prints are all over this…

“The pretty straight kind of guy”, friend to sleazy billionaire global despots, and as-yet-unconvicted war criminal has persuaded the European Commission that No Deal is not a viable option for the UK and will never happen. He has told them that the public is against Brexit and that a second referendum will deliver a Remain result. For this reason, the EU’s negotiators are in no hurry to offer Theresa May any kind of improvement on their current deal offer: they think she’s stuck with it regardless."

The thrust of this strategy is obvious to all but the most blind remoaner, though Blair being involved is a new twist...
Report Baphornet December 14, 2018 8:26 PM GMT
good piece that
Report 1st time poster December 14, 2018 8:29 PM GMT
just on a point of order

I thought all leavers,pundits,pollsters said leave would still win a 2nd reff and because the public have been forced to vote twice by the elite will vote leave in even bigger numbers,

or are you suggesting blair counts the votes LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report Just Checking December 14, 2018 8:33 PM GMT
The anti Brexit rhetoric by the remoaner skum like the BBC is already set to 11, if there were another referendum the sheer crushing weight of one sided remoaner anti Brexit propaganda would reach levels of bias unseen outside North Korea....
Report Baphornet December 14, 2018 8:37 PM GMT
a bit harsh. I would have suggested a Gulag in the Baltic?
Report Just Checking December 14, 2018 8:41 PM GMT
Harsh, nope, just accurate!

As someone (forget his name) at the BBC said a while back, they apparently don't feel they need to be impartial as the referendum was over. Of course the remoaners have been angling to get a new referendum for 2 years now, and I'm sure the BBC were aware of that.
Report 1st time poster December 14, 2018 8:41 PM GMT
SO LEAVERS are lying when they say they,d win again,and your happy for a no deal Brexit even though maybe 60% or more of the voters might not want it
Report Just Checking December 14, 2018 8:45 PM GMT
They might win, might not. Remoaners jump on any poll that says remain would win, but of course they said that before the first referendum.

If remain won, it would a mile high ***k you to the leave voters, shatter confidence in our system, create a huge feeling of injustice (the sore losers change the rules of the game because they lost, then keep playing until they win and load the dice), and the more nutcase inclined leave voters I'd imagine would reach boiling point...
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 14, 2018 8:50 PM GMT
We all know we are not allowed to leave the EU, the new world order has already been decided. Even if their was a 2nd vote it would be impossible for leave to get the counted most votes.
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 9:34 PM GMT
1st time poster
14 Dec 18 20:41
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SO LEAVERS are lying when they say they,d win again,and your happy for a no deal Brexit even though maybe 60% or more of the voters might not want it


I am a leaver, I would vote to leave again, but doubt others would

I would prefer a deal, but I would rather we leave without a deal than remain

If we have another referendum, it rather looks as if we are going to keep having them until we vote to remain

I think another country(I have forgotten) already did this when they joined, their country voted no to joining, so the referendum
was repeated this time they voted yes
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 9:36 PM GMT
gives a whole new meaning to the word referendum
Report conditor December 14, 2018 9:43 PM GMT
You think democracy exists, it don’t ,you think, but they think better,your a plebeian,. Until you stand up
Report conditor December 14, 2018 9:45 PM GMT
And I’m not one for ,residents, the time has come Crazy
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 10:05 PM GMT
I will be behind you conditor , but maybe at a safe distance Laugh
Report conditor December 14, 2018 10:10 PM GMT
Know doubt six weeks behind
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 10:19 PM GMT
If the deal fails to pass this parliamentary hurdle, the path ahead is shrouded in uncertainty. But as things stand, by law the UK is set to leave the EU on March 29, 2019 – deal or no deal.

But then there is this

The legally-binding Withdrawal Agreement establishes a “transition or implementation period” to run after Brexit until the end of 2020, during which many existing arrangements would stay in place.
Although no longer an EU member, the UK will still have to conform to EU rules during this period. The transition can be extended “for up to one or two years”, with a decision taken by mutual consent before July 1, 2020.
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 10:20 PM GMT
Laugh conditor
Report conditor December 14, 2018 10:28 PM GMT
It’s all Greek to me bud, good un Crazy
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 10:29 PM GMT
The controversial backstop
For long a sticking point during the Brexit talks, no sooner was the ink on the draft deal dry than the arrangements it puts in place for the Irish border resurfaced – again threatening to derail the whole process.
The Withdrawal Agreement envisages a “backstop” mechanism to guarantee an open frontier between Northern Ireland in the UK, and EU member the Republic of Ireland. This is seen as necessary given the different tariffs and regulatory standards likely to result from the UK’s decision to leave the EU’s single market and customs union.
The backstop is described as a kind of insurance policy, should future talks fail to produce a free trade agreement. It would ensure no physical border infrastructure, potentially re-igniting historical tensions and threatening the 1998 peace accord which put an end to decades of political violence.


Then there is the backstop

Northern Ireland would also stay aligned to some EU rules, including in some areas of the single market. This would avoid checks at the Irish border — but would mean some controls between Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK.
Brexiteers including Northern Irish unionists – who have been propping up May’s government — hate anything which sets Northern Ireland apart from the rest of the United Kingdom. They have not been placated by attempts to minimise differences and cite May’s own insistence on “no border down the Irish Sea”.
The UK attorney general’s legal advice highlights that goods passing from Great Britain into Northern Ireland would be subject to checks.


DUP or any protestant in N.Ireland will accepta a border down the Irish Sea

I still remember the troubles
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 10:30 PM GMT
sb NOT accept
Report UBLE/REGY December 14, 2018 10:31 PM GMT
The problem is that 'greek' my keep us in the EU Conditor
Report conditor December 14, 2018 10:35 PM GMT
I have the bible it was dropped off ,and it’s wonderful Laugh
Report wit-ham December 14, 2018 10:39 PM GMT
I keep saying the second ref is the Blair EU president vote and have seen nothing yet to change my mind
While all the money people Soros etc (sure most don't live in the country)are making fortunes by
pushing the £down at every bit of news.
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