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Baphornet
01 Dec 18 23:29
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"Close colleagues of the PM say that on “current numbers” she loses the meaningful vote by “nearly 400”. And yet 'the nutcase' acts and speaks as they she is not about to lose the most important battle of her life. Which begs the question what does she know that the rest of us do not? In the words of a minister “She is not talking to anyone...She is a mystery”. I wonder whether that vote will actually happen on 11 December. Some in her circle think it can’t."

He sounds a bit like me. She knows she's cooked; yet she meanders on. Just what is she up to?

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By:
Baphornet
When: 02 Dec 18 00:44
it can't be this, can it?

"I am told by Tory MPs that full force of Conservative Party machine is being mobilised to put pressure on party associations and their respective chairs to put maximum pressure on their respective MPs to back @theresa_may and her Brexit deal. How many rebel Tory MPs will buckle?"
By:
mafeking
When: 02 Dec 18 02:39
but the local tory associations probably think she's even more deluded than her MPs. can't imagine your average tory member will be exactly thrilled with her deal
By:
Baphornet
When: 02 Dec 18 03:00
mafeking; that's exactly my thoughts. It seems that everyone knows she's nuts but her. Or she's the greatest bluffer since Benyamine
By:
A_T
When: 02 Dec 18 09:09
It's the latter. May knows exactly what she's doing.
By:
A_T
When: 02 Dec 18 09:46
May won the moment the "no confidence" vote fizzled out
By:
posy
When: 02 Dec 18 10:21
The only realistic way forward is for a referendum with 3 choices

leave with no deal
leave with TM deal
stay in on current terms
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Dec 18 10:23
MAYSWAS A HOPELESS home secretary but got praie for been the longest serving from what we no now about her ,she was probably asked to stand down half a dozen times but wouldnt
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Dec 18 10:24
will THE eu LET US STAY ON current terms ,the EU with an input into the question that will go down well
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 02 Dec 18 12:55
We've already voted on leaving.

If we need another vote it should be

No Deal
or TM Deal.
By:
PorcupineorPineapple
When: 02 Dec 18 13:03
Because democracy means never being able to change your mind years down the line.
By:
donny osmond
When: 02 Dec 18 13:12
maybe vote between a red white and blue brexit and brexit means brexit option

they can research that and get the russians to fund their campaigns
By:
ufcdan
When: 02 Dec 18 15:23
The only realistic way forward is for a referendum with 3 choices

leave with no deal
leave with TM deal
stay in on current terms

So stay in on current terms get 40%
Leave with no deal gets 30%
Leave with TM deal gets 30%

Does stay on current terms win with the highest proportion of votes ? Or does it not count as leave with some sort of deal wins with 60% of the vote ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 02 Dec 18 16:37
even talk of may delaying vote to go back to the EU, ONCE MAYS LIE, of this is the deal is exposed theres a table full of alternatives but like mays deal none of which are likely to get a majority in the commons, same as the Scottish reff or a 2nd reff no one answering questions like which currency.EU yes,no for scot after independence, yes /no questions in reffs are a complete waste of time
By:
posy
When: 02 Dec 18 17:13
ufcdan I don't have a definitive answer however i'm setting out the realistic alternatives .In my opinion there should be a second preference vote and once the third of the alternatives is eliminated (by attracting the least votes) these should come into play.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 02 Dec 18 17:25
No second referendum until after Brexit.

How can there be a second referendum before Brexit has been delivered?

That would make a mockery of the first.
By:
A_T
When: 02 Dec 18 17:44
second referendum coming - in or out Cool
By:
Sica Dan
When: 02 Dec 18 18:35
If we stay in you can bet we will lose our rebate.
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