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Hello, I received the above warning from Betfair warning me that I should not have made a post called" Lloyd Russell-Moyle: Brighton Labour MP announces he is HIV positive in Commons speech"
Firstly, why in the world have you sent me this utterly ridiculous warning, what exactly is the warning about, what comment is offenseive? which terms and conditions have been broken - please be specific.
I made a thread about an MP who had just appeared on National Television to announce he was HIV - and then in the sub header it said why he had announced this - to draw attention to public health cuts.
Absolutely nowhere whatsoever in that thread did I at any point in time make any offesive comments about this mp whatsoever - so I completely reject your warning and I would also like an apology.
Thirdly, if you go back and actually bother to read every single post in that thread that I made you will see this.
Fourthly, when threads are reported to you, can you please at the very least take 10 seconds to read what it is that is actually being reported and then make an appropriate response, this is no a appropriate response, you're warning me about make a thread title that was just made National News - an MP had just announced he was HIV - it was not some rumour spread, please check this out online by simply typing his name into google.
Lastly - you have to understand that there are some fellow posters on the forum who are reporting every single post that certain posters make simply because they do not like that poster, it's a bit sad but that is what they do, which is why I urge you to actually read what is that is being reported rather than send me these daft, meaningless warnings.
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I think we all know which sad act has reported that thread - are TSE Global robots, they could not have possibly even have read the thread, they've litereally sent me a warning without knowing wtf they're warning me about, you could not make it up, I think we all know which sad posters with no life clearly has gone to the trouble to report this.
Think about the level of ridiculousness here, posting that an MP is HIV after he just announced it to the entire country apparently is not acceptable, someone fetch the head in hands man for this company.
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Lloyd Russell-Moyle: Brighton Labour MP announces he is HIV positive in Commons speech" are not acceptable.
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Hello, I received the above warning from Betfair warning me that I should not have made a post called" Lloyd Russell-Moyle: Brighton Labour MP announces he is HIV positive in Commons speech"
Firstly, why in the world have you sent me this utterly ridiculous warning, what exactly is the warning about, what comment is offenseive? which terms and conditions have been broken - please be specific.
I made a thread about an MP who had just appeared on National Television to announce he was HIV - and then in the sub header it said why he had announced this - to draw attention to public health cuts.
Absolutely nowhere whatsoever in that thread did I at any point in time make any offesive comments about this mp whatsoever - so I completely reject your warning and I would also like an apology.
Thirdly, if you go back and actually bother to read every single post in that thread that I made you will see this.
Fourthly, when threads are reported to you, can you please at the very least take 10 seconds to read what it is that is actually being reported and then make an appropriate response, this is no a appropriate response, you're warning me about make a thread title that was just made National News - an MP had just announced he was HIV - it was not some rumour spread, please check this out online by simply typing his name into google.
Lastly - you have to understand that there are some fellow posters on the forum who are reporting every single post that certain posters make simply because they do not like that poster, it's a bit sad but that is what they do, which is why I urge you to actually read what is that is being reported rather than send me these daft, meaningless warnings.
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I think we all know which sad act has reported that thread - are TSE Global robots, they could not have possibly even have read the thread, they've litereally sent me a warning without knowing wtf they're warning me about, you could not make it up, I think we all know which sad posters with no life clearly has gone to the trouble to report this.
Think about the level of ridiculousness here, posting that an MP is HIV after he just announced it to the entire country apparently is not acceptable, someone fetch the head in hands man for this company.
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That's incredible. Obviously whoever has acted hasn't bothered to try and understand the thread.
B'Fair won't give a fack btw.
B'Fair won't give a fack btw.
I wont let this drop.
I have sent a follow up email with the suspected name(s) of the poster who has also been getting STUDYFORM's post constantly removed. This poster wont get away with it for much longer.
I have sent a follow up email with the suspected name(s) of the poster who has also been getting STUDYFORM's post constantly removed. This poster wont get away with it for much longer.
The guy stood up in the House Of Commons as bold as brass and announced how he was 'sexually active' in his younger days in a camp as christmas voice heavily implying what he's been up to as if it's some sort of badge of honour yet it can't be discussed on an anonymous forum,shocking stuff and more outrageous control.
I got a warning for things that I wrote about the SNP.
One comment was OTT but the rest were fair and factual.
I got no response to my query.
One comment was OTT but the rest were fair and factual.
I got no response to my query.
The standards should be factual on sensitive issues and in the public domain should be a free pass imo. this particular subject seems rather tame by chit chat standards given it's all over every news channel.
they do seem a little sensitive about language and stuff. I take it this is run by an American company? I have noticed some English - acceptable words are starred out
Seems that helicopter wasn't hovering above his house for nowt last night might've got some unsavoury internet history data who knows?
The threads gone, - it was reported, the forum is not actively moderated so the only way any post or thread can be removed is if a person reports it, or several different usernames belonging to a poster.
There seems to be a great deal of automation here, it seems like once a post or thread has been reported a certain amount of times it is automatically deleted, that can only the possible explanation - because surely a person cannot be stupid enough to actually act apon a reported thread where literally nothing in the terms and conditions have been breached or even remotely close and then send dumb automated email replies without stating anything specific whatsoever.
I've sent my reply to two seperate email addresses, the one in which it came from and the forums email address
Will also send my reply to betfair directly about tse unless I receive an apology and retraction. Also sent them the suspected name.
There seems to be a great deal of automation here, it seems like once a post or thread has been reported a certain amount of times it is automatically deleted, that can only the possible explanation - because surely a person cannot be stupid enough to actually act apon a reported thread where literally nothing in the terms and conditions have been breached or even remotely close and then send dumb automated email replies without stating anything specific whatsoever.
I've sent my reply to two seperate email addresses, the one in which it came from and the forums email address
Will also send my reply to betfair directly about tse unless I receive an apology and retraction. Also sent them the suspected name.
you ought to try the grundian for exclusions - very sensitive folk over there if you challenge/disagree etc
Nov 30, 2018 -- 9:13PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:
Seems that helicopter wasn't hovering above his house for nowt last night might've got some unsavoury internet history data who knows?
Unless his dark wireless was interceped.
OP.....you say that we all know the sad act who has reported this.....name and shame, as I don't......what a sad individual he/she must be....and that is being polite!
Secondly, it is just another example of the level of intelligence of those that Betfair employ to do this "moderation" job on the forum.....posts/threads being taken down, left right and centre.......restricting harmless free speech/banter, in most cases imo.
As I have asked before......who moderates (manages) the mods??.....Betfair, let's have an answer please.
As the saying goes......if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.......oooooh, is that now considered an offensive comment in certain over sensitive quarters I wonder?
Secondly, it is just another example of the level of intelligence of those that Betfair employ to do this "moderation" job on the forum.....posts/threads being taken down, left right and centre.......restricting harmless free speech/banter, in most cases imo.
As I have asked before......who moderates (manages) the mods??.....Betfair, let's have an answer please.
As the saying goes......if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.......oooooh, is that now considered an offensive comment in certain over sensitive quarters I wonder?
p.s OP.....just read your post above.....maybe you are right and it is just an automated system based on how many complaints they get........how f.......d up is that system for a company worth a fortune.....says a lot about how they value their customers if the case.....
Well done Scandi for posting this, it's a total joke. Many many good lads have been banned on here for absolutely nothing. Used to be a great laugh on here with lots of banter. Now you write something and wait for ages for a response. Tbf chit chat is about the best. The football forum is pretty much dead most of the time. If the mods ban everyone it a bit like Turkeys voting for Christmas. Mind you as Betfair is a profit based company do they really care if the forum is no more
I can remember reading the forum back in 2010, was always 100s of replies and all kinds of hilarious comments made
Sadly those days are gone
Sadly those days are gone
btw ufcdan.......I can join you in experiencing being an English lad in a Glasgow school in the 70's........not a pleasant experience at all with no bigger brother to look after me either, being the eldest......most of it kicked off on a Monday morning after we tonked em at football.......,landed up learning to speak with a convincing Glaswegian accent when I moved schools.....Hutchinsons to Eastwood High......however, is where I learnt at a young age that turning the other cheek was not a solution......you just get smacked in the other one!!.......was a good life lesson that I have kept with me to this day :)
When losing change the subject, old times etc.
There used to be a lot of abuse, that's why many stopped posting.
If you managed to post without someone coming back and insulting you using foul language it was unusual.
If you managed to post without someone coming back and insulting you using foul language it was unusual.
I'd have loved it Dr 
I enjoy getting into heated debates ha!
I enjoy getting into heated debates ha!
"When losing change the subject, old times etc".........whose losing?!!!
yes layemall 70s Glasgow certainly toughened you up. When we moved back down to Potters Bar in Hertfordshire I had a choice of two schools Mount Grace and Brookmans park. The education department said Mount Grace had enough of a hooligan element so I was sent to Brookemans park with the posh kids. In my last year a teacher walked up to me and said don't bother coming back after Christmas, we won't be looking for you. We'll tell the education department you have moved back to Cotland where it was legal to leave school on your 16th birthday
...whose losing?!!!
A Scottish education, you can't beat it
A Scottish education, you can't beat it
I am willing to be banned permantly if it means constantly pinging emails to them to get to the bottom of this charade, couldn't care less if they did ban me, not being given a warning for literally no reason, they need to do their job properly or Betfair can lease out the running of this forum to another company, laymall, wouldn't say, it'd only result in thread removal, but he's already posted on the thread pretending it's an outrage when he knows full well. Same as study's posts, someones constantly trying to get him banned as well given how many of his posts on the diabetes threads is deleted.
I did correct it dan....as one would when re-reading.....shortly-ish afterwards........the key difference of a Scottish education some might say....one is given the ability to be able to correct, when a mistake has been made.......hmmmmmm....a discussion point on another thread maybe......the difference (if any) of a Scottish or English education.....
dan we had the opposite in my school in kent - a chinese lad moved up to Glasgow with a normal kent accent and when he came back he had the thickest Glaswegian accent lol we took the pi$$ but he wasn't bullied as he was a well liked lad. Btw dan do you celebrate thanksgiving? we do it here, I imagine there are a lot of expats here in the UK who celebrated it. I think it should be added as a holiday in the UK - food, booze and no presents to worry about - what's not to like?
Lots of times....they were two or three pronged...some could have you in tears after just two hits......others were a joke(move hands away and they would hit their leg with it....whole class bursts into laughter).......some took a pride in their ability to be good at it.....the pe and maths teacher for starters.....the history teacher I remember kept his in a vice...I assume to keep it stiff...he was useless though!!.....oh how we digress from the thread topic....common theme could be the injustice of it all though!!
I remember trying to keep your jumper over your wrists when getting the belt. There was a teacher nicknamed "Wee brick" who was broad as he was wide, rumour had it he split a desk top with a belt 
Not really Hank let's face Turkey is a pretty nasty bird any time of the year ! Always WhatsApp my family. Keep meaning to go out one year but now that my son lives on the East coast it makes it hard to visit both. Mind you need to get out there soon, my dad isn't getting any younger
As they sometimes do Scandi but the mods are still kn0bs
30/11/2018 10.35 PM)
Hi
Thanks for getting in touch.
We would firstly like to apologise to you for the inconveniences caused. We have had a further look into this for you, and this warning was sent in error from our end.
We can assure you that we do take such issues very seriously, and we will be taking the necessary steps to ensure that such issues are prevented in the future.
Again, we would like to apologise for the inconveniences caused in this scenario. Should you have any queries, please do not hesitate to message us.
Thanks,
Ian F.
Betfair Customer Service
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Nice to have an apology at least. Hopefully this is a chance in the way they deal with reported posts and threads.
Hi
Thanks for getting in touch.
We would firstly like to apologise to you for the inconveniences caused. We have had a further look into this for you, and this warning was sent in error from our end.
We can assure you that we do take such issues very seriously, and we will be taking the necessary steps to ensure that such issues are prevented in the future.
Again, we would like to apologise for the inconveniences caused in this scenario. Should you have any queries, please do not hesitate to message us.
Thanks,
Ian F.
Betfair Customer Service
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Nice to have an apology at least. Hopefully this is a chance in the way they deal with reported posts and threads.
Oh well done scandi a bit too late, I just called them kn0bs
Looks like we got an answer.......and the correct one.... :)
I wouldn't worry Dan they're American so don't know what kn0b means
Yes , you had to make sure your jumper or blazer protected you from the wrist upwards.....they still all seemed to aim for the fleshy part at the base of your thumb though........that's where it really hurt with a direct hit!!
and those reading this thread will be inspecting and holding their right hand out in front of them....and will concur at the thought of it, if having not had the experience
Tbf layemall most of them on here their right hands their favourite one 
Well done Scandi. I thought you were wasting your time but obviously not.
hopefully it will make them read and understand posts before acting.
hopefully it will make them read and understand posts before acting.
I started a Post saying "pray for a Terrorist" , It was a fooking website I was posting about. if they opened the thread they would have seen a Link to the Site 
I would hardly have been suggesting such a thing
recieved same email as Shaven
I would hardly have been suggesting such a thing
recieved same email as Shaven
Agreed, but not thrashed in quite as many different ways as mine has been!!
Right my bedtime hopefully my mate Ian will let me back on tomorrow, night all
scandi I see why you're annoyed but I don't think you're going to get anything from bf. The forum being outsourced is just how they want it - less bother for them. Btw good luck if you do any more beat the drop - just about hanging in there on my final free go.
On that topic....Private Benjamin on itv now.........how gorgeous is Goldie Hawn (was) :)
thanks Hank, I'll be giving the paid game a go, think I'll aim for just 4/5 questions and this time not just pick a question from the first list they post.
I've had loads of posts removed over the last couple of years.
I've also written several emails like yours S_H, mostly the replies, if I get any, show a total lack of interest, and near impossible levels of incomprehension.
At least 5 have been removed today!!!
There are some very sad, pathetic, people thinking they're achieving something with the reporting and TSEG is spectacularly useless and nearly as spectacularly unreasonable.
Eventually there will be no forum, and the tw@ts doing the reporting will claim (to themselves) it's what they were after. The rest of us won't miss it.
I've also written several emails like yours S_H, mostly the replies, if I get any, show a total lack of interest, and near impossible levels of incomprehension.
At least 5 have been removed today!!!
There are some very sad, pathetic, people thinking they're achieving something with the reporting and TSEG is spectacularly useless and nearly as spectacularly unreasonable.
Eventually there will be no forum, and the tw@ts doing the reporting will claim (to themselves) it's what they were after. The rest of us won't miss it.
get a grip STUDY -Scandas a fookin lunatic hth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74LsTRDZgFI
just my opinion of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74LsTRDZgFI
just my opinion of course
....and no doubt a reporter so i rest my case ya honour.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5qyNF-MLaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5qyNF-MLaQ
Why do most people assume when a thread
is removed that it is because someone
has reported it.??
I suspect the vast majority are removed
By the mods acting alone.
is removed that it is because someone
has reported it.??
I suspect the vast majority are removed
By the mods acting alone.
Think the rogue mod is a patsy or maybe pasty?
Glad you got this resolved scandi, now who is the person that even tried to get you banned....
Dec 1, 2018 -- 6:55AM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:
Why do most people assume when a thread is removed that it is because someone has reported it.?? I suspect the vast majority are removed By the mods acting alone.
Because the forum isn't moderated.
Betfair and TSEG will tell you the forum isn't moderated.
The people working for them simply respond to complaints, often without reading the content.
This spurs on the idiots who like to feel like they're making a difference to society by reporting posts and getting stuff removed.
The vast majority are removed by the mods , it suits betfair to say they are responding to complaints
That’s the main reason there is the report facility, to make it appear that the forum isn’t moderated
So they allow anti-Semitic icons, but not words relating to the Religion of Peace or homosexuality.
It mentioned an mp, homosexuality , whatever something triggered them
It wasn’t reported
It wasn’t reported
... EXACTLY, if STUDYFORM thinks nobody from betfair checks the forum unless a thread has been reported he
isnt thinking straight.
isnt thinking straight.
The business contact, who introduced me to this crazy business, was not only denied his rights to post on the forum, but had his account closed!
All he did was to answer a question, that was posted on a particular forum, by answering yes, and showing the mechanics to achieve it,
but then qualified by saying "don't do it as you will not be very popular" (not the exact words probably, but on the lines thereof)!
All he did was to answer a question, that was posted on a particular forum, by answering yes, and showing the mechanics to achieve it,
but then qualified by saying "don't do it as you will not be very popular" (not the exact words probably, but on the lines thereof)!
Must of been the Holy Grail of gambolling. Shame he didn't entrust it to someone else!
"rights to post on the forum"
What right is that then, I've never heard of it.
What right is that then, I've never heard of it.
I did ask for one of my horse racing threads to be deleted as it was being used for infantile bickerings and personal insults and not what it was set-up to do originally ie share and exchange horse racing info/opinions.
I do not concur with TSE's decision to warn original poster about his thread as there is absolutely nothing untoward or homophobic about it; it certainly was neither divisive nor judgemental.
I do not concur with TSE's decision to warn original poster about his thread as there is absolutely nothing untoward or homophobic about it; it certainly was neither divisive nor judgemental.
I wouldn't be surprised if one or two of the mods allow their own bias to take over and delve into some threads.
When trying to get pics passed I often have to resubmit before getting them accepted (Mainly political lampooning ones)
When trying to get pics passed I often have to resubmit before getting them accepted (Mainly political lampooning ones)
I really don't think the forum is actively moderated. My guess is that certain words are automatically checked for which trigger some flag. If someone then complains it escalates somehow. I've never reported anyone and as far as I know no one has ever reported me although brassneck has said he has several times (I've never had a warning about it). I've certainly been abusive to people, in particular to Dr C and tm and they have been abusive to me. I stand by what I said to them and they no doubt stand by what they said to me. It's a forum ffs so let's all just get on with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxKjOOR9sPU
go on my son
'bejeesus
go on my son
'bejeesus
Dec 1, 2018 -- 12:22PM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:
... EXACTLY, if STUDYFORM thinks nobody from betfair checks the forum unless a thread has been reported he isnt thinking straight.
I've had conversations with them and had emails from them telling me the forum isn't moderated.
There are people working at TSEG and BF who respond to stuff, but THEY DO NOT ACTIVELY MODERATE THIS FORUM.
I am thinking perfectly straight.
Going back a good few years since the forum was moderated, later it was moderated by external mods (resulting in a free-for-fall on here), then full moderation was performed externally with a "reporting" system. The mod work has been further reduced (imagine reading every post/thread that is reported!), now if a post/thread is reported it is computer scanned for certain words. Hence the OP's thread being pulled ip.
That is both correct and informative, D L.
This won't however, stop the made up stuff from people who simply don't believe things.
You can't tell some people anything though.
This won't however, stop the made up stuff from people who simply don't believe things.
You can't tell some people anything though.
I'm pretty sure I know who reported one of my posts which got me a nine month ban for making a humourus comment on a female fashion garment much admired by middle eastern males who live in a 2000 year old time warp. The problem is the takeover of institutions by those with an agenda to relegate indiginous, heterosexual men and women to the bottom of the pile.
The amount of times I hit the cancel button these days on things that are just banter
I posted this on another fred..'The forum has certainly been put in a 'Straight jacket' with the report button and the weak small people who use it.
I can't recall if SH and myself have ever agreed on anything, we have had some ding dong exchanges, and he has not once reached for the report button, and he had good reasons to on several occasions. A good egg who prefers to humorously debate when making a point.
I can't recall if SH and myself have ever agreed on anything, we have had some ding dong exchanges, and he has not once reached for the report button, and he had good reasons to on several occasions. A good egg who prefers to humorously debate when making a point.
They are taking a bluddy liberty ,there are a lot of counts on here but their our counts ,sometimes there is no alternative but to tell somebody to get to Falkirk.
My posts in response to crippen (on 2 threads) disappearing AGAIN.
Make you feel good about yourself does it?
Clown.
Make you feel good about yourself does it?
Clown.
There are various trolls and ex-banned people reporting posts, because the report button is open to all readers.
I think that removing this ridiculous, pointless feature would help this forum.
Although that wouldn't stop the clowns on here who do it too.
boxingthfox and I have had words, but we'd never stoop to these toerag's levels.
I think that removing this ridiculous, pointless feature would help this forum.
Although that wouldn't stop the clowns on here who do it too.
boxingthfox and I have had words, but we'd never stoop to these toerag's levels.
Thanks mate, you too, I'm working too hard and doing too much, but I'll have a little relax after Christmas.
SF don't be so quick to point the finger.
Remember Brian Cox bragged about constantly reporting you and others.
He seems to have been kicked off utube but he might still be targeting you.
BTW it appears that Trilby has been banned. clicked on his name but no account.
Remember Brian Cox bragged about constantly reporting you and others.
He seems to have been kicked off utube but he might still be targeting you.
BTW it appears that Trilby has been banned. clicked on his name but no account.
Dec 2, 2018 -- 9:28PM, akabula wrote:
SF don't be so quick to point the finger.Remember Brian Cox bragged about constantly reporting you and others.He seems to have been kicked off utube but he might still be targeting you.BTW it appears that Trilby has been banned. clicked on his name but no account.
THE Brian Cox? Scientist etc.
Dec 2, 2018 -- 10:45PM, dave1357 wrote:
no wonder you gobble down conspiritard material
Irony is lost on you dave don't worry pal things can only get better.
Have we any examples of people being banned who didn’t deserve ( going by guidelines ) to be banned ?
Dec 3, 2018 -- 9:05AM, dave1357 wrote:
ah the "i was joking" defence
You're the only one that bit dave don't be too embarressed not sure what you meant by the gobble down conspiritard material jibe bit out of the blue tbh.
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