time to nationalise the railways ?

Presumably you are too young to remember British Rail.

no im 54 soon, i can remember british rail and they were the epitome of efficiency compared to what passes for todays  network.

is british rail the only format available for a nationalised railway?

surely there are some decent railways owned by the state that operate
a decent system at a reasonable price.

they are forever carrying out upgrades, repair works and subsequent delays/cancelations follow whilst the cost is passed onto fare payers every January.

Why is it in Europe Rail travel is so much smoother, so much more reliable and generally cheaper?

exactly sh. also tyne and wear metro system, breaks down every other day, mr metro comes on telly saying stock now 40 years old needs replacing blah blah blah, did he not know that last year or 10 years ago, it hasn't suddenly happened. nowt like being proactive.

Its all about the spiv merchants wanting to carry on robbing the people , the private cowboys and the so called risk takers blagging it for 35 years and counting

Oh no .. so now the trains be crapping is being blamed on "Britsh-Rail-EXIT"!

Anxious, are a you a real person or a very badly programmed chatbot?

Did London to Liverpool a couple of weeks ago.


Didn't fancy paying over £150 for the privilege so cut my plans a bit short to get the cheaper afternoon train. Unfortunately I only got there 10 minutes before it left and every single seat was taken. Ended up stood outside the toilet trying to eat an M&S sandwich to the soothing sounds of someone dropping their guts three feet away from me. Value for money.

no ones blaming brexit for the trains but if the cap fits.

Nov 30, 2018 -- 7:16PM, PorcupineorPineapple wrote:

Did London to Liverpool a couple of weeks ago.Didn't fancy paying over £150 for the privilege so cut my plans a bit short to get the cheaper afternoon train. Unfortunately I only got there 10 minutes before it left and every single seat was taken. Ended up stood outside the toilet trying to eat an M&S sandwich to the soothing sounds of someone dropping their guts three feet away from me. Value for money.

was it chris grayling ?

British Rail did pay its way at one time, which was when they handled a lot of freight.
Buying tickets under BR was much better than it is now. but I can't remember anything else being better
Except the number of different routes available.

was it chris grayling ?


His shoes weren't covered in poo when he left, so I assume not

Any industry should be better under public ownership except they never are.

They can find the money to spunk billions on HS2