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Baphornet
23 Nov 18 12:29
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with UKIP. Farage is very unhappy; is this because he sees this as a threat to his hopes of a new party?
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Report Ibrahima Sonko • November 23, 2018 12:31 PM GMT
Farage has changed so much in the last few years, its like he has been silenced or paid off. You would think he would have more interested in brino.
Report Baphornet • November 23, 2018 12:37 PM GMT
very quiet during the brexit sell out. I quite liked him as an orator and free thinker (or so i thought) He's just another crumbling mess now to me, i really am starting to feel very disillusioned
Report InsiderTrader • November 23, 2018 12:44 PM GMT
Farage was stong on the EU question but is very weak on voicing concerns at different cultures coming in.
Report Johnny_Mustang • November 23, 2018 1:11 PM GMT
Right pair of mugs.
Report SontaranStratagem • November 23, 2018 1:11 PM GMT
Farage got his publicity and then left

He's irrelevant when it comes to anything other than brexit anyway, and even then he's lost that now as well imo
Report UBLE/REGY • November 23, 2018 1:17 PM GMT
Well UKIP has in effect done it's job as regards the EU...we are coming out.

So we don't need a party for that any more do we?

I believe in FREE SPEECH so it is important to hear the views of Tommy Robinson.

It protects us, otherwise we may find ourselves unable to say anything that does not conform.


People are free to disagree as well as agree with him, as they see fit
Report Baphornet • November 23, 2018 1:21 PM GMT
i cannot agree more, UR. Well said
Report Slicer • November 23, 2018 1:21 PM GMT
Free speech- you mean like now when  antisemitism is tolerated on THIS forum and twatter and yet say one tiny word against the Religion of Peace and get suspended/banned/ prosecuted!
Report Baphornet • November 23, 2018 1:23 PM GMT
i should have added; it's just  pity that mainstream media outlets do not agree with us
Report UBLE/REGY • November 23, 2018 1:25 PM GMT
I sympathize Slicer, I believe in letting anything go.

Except perhaps INCITEMENT to commit violence, or other crimes.
Report Slicer • November 23, 2018 1:26 PM GMT
I like uniformity in law. I only believe in INCITEMENT to violence by encouraging active defence of ones own property and person when threatened!
Report UBLE/REGY • November 23, 2018 1:27 PM GMT
I agree Baphornet,

At times Mainstream Media seems more about trying to program us.
Report UBLE/REGY • November 23, 2018 1:28 PM GMT
We agree there Slicer.
Report moisok • November 23, 2018 1:49 PM GMT
Merkel wants you to submit.  Where have we heard that word before.
Report scandanavian_haven • November 23, 2018 1:50 PM GMT
How much money is he getting? Tommy riding the gravy train for as long as he can.
Report moisok • November 23, 2018 1:52 PM GMT
for gravy train go to the Kinnocks

for balance ho ho
Report broadsword • November 23, 2018 2:01 PM GMT
its ok for farage in his leafy suburb
Report UBLE/REGY • November 23, 2018 2:06 PM GMT
UKIP as a party needs to redefine itself...……..

I think we need control of immigration from everywhere myself.

We let in those who we need or who benefit us.

In numbers that do not overwhelm our infrastructure.


A little does us good, but too much cam harm us.
Report UBLE/REGY • November 23, 2018 2:12 PM GMT
One can say that of may thingsLaugh
Report UBLE/REGY • November 23, 2018 2:15 PM GMT
Brexit will only be betrayed if we give in on immigration.

May's job is to not to give in on this, as well as trying to obtain some sort of trade deal after Brexit.

But she must give nothing away on immigration!!!!!
Report Dr Crippen • November 23, 2018 4:23 PM GMT
Farage is too smart to let himself be associated with Tommy Robinson who has been demonised by the media.
Farage's opponents would love him to welcome Robinson with open arms.

Imagine how long Farage would last if every interview he did was taken up defending Robinson?

That is the reality, and why Farage would have to be absolutely mad to back Robinson who's treated like Hitler in the media.

Mud sticks whether it's justified or not, and Robinson is covered in mud.
Report Injera • November 23, 2018 4:29 PM GMT
Frustrating that the media still refer to TR as 'the founder of the EDL'.

He's moved on from them and is now a journalist who was recently falsely imprisoned. He spends his time highlighting the rape of Britain by a certain section of society. A tragedy that most in the media would rather ignore.

Talking of rape. The poor lass who was raped by 3 men whilst walking her dog in Yorkshire recently...Plod want the public's help but won't assist the public with any clues....

'Officers are also particularly keen to speak with anyone who may have home or vehicle CCTV covering the route of the canal between Park Road and Elland Road or covering access points to the canal area."  Descriptions of the three men have not been released by police.'

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/west-yorkshire-news/police-hunting-three-men-rape-15383819
Report Reynard • November 23, 2018 6:28 PM GMT
It's sadly got to the stage now where on the occasions that plod refuse to release descriptions of 'persons of interest' , the general public automatically conclude the ethnicity of the said 'persons of interest .
So why don't they make a statement along the lines of "We are looking for x number of men whose ethnicity we cannot reveal of approx Y age and Z height/build" ? It looks and sounds absurd but that's precisely where we are now !
Report moisok • November 23, 2018 6:32 PM GMT
You are right - as soon as I see 'THREE MEN'   - I know I shouldn't but that is what I think.

Yah know - when someone has been assaulted etc - they mostly have been close up and usually see their attackers (one assumes)

so why no description, smells, etc etc?
Report ufcdan • November 23, 2018 6:55 PM GMT
The people of this country will not accept a right wing party the way they won't accept a left wing party. Bye bye Jeremy
Report Hamsterdam • November 23, 2018 10:38 PM GMT
Not sure how he can make them relevant again when the UK Independence Party has already achieved his goal. He seems to bang the free speech card a lot nowadays not sure how that is linked to UKIP.

I do agree with free speech and would prefer the American version however should people really be able to call others the N word ? Online or otherwise, limit has to be drawn somewhere. Also you need to ensure online bullying (which is awful, dead kids facebook being spammed for example) is separated from free speech as well.

Harassment/racism, incitement excluded pretty much ends up with what we have now, so maybe we do have it right.
Report Facts • November 23, 2018 10:57 PM GMT
ufcdan    23 Nov 18 18:55 
The people of this country will not accept a right wing party the way they won't accept a left wing party. Bye bye Jeremy



The Tories have done a damn good job of being a party of the Right Wing. But not for much longer !

Say hello to Jeremy, ufcdan Cool
Report ufcdan • November 24, 2018 5:07 PM GMT
We shall see facts. I base my assumptions of bitter envious northerners. Watching Question Time Labour don't seem to get to much support even in areas that I would consider Labour strongholds. Mind you that Clive Lewis is a total kn0b so maybe I'm reading to much into it. One thing I never thought of with flip flop Jeremy is how is he going to be able to run the UK as a socialist country/countries with the confines that the EU will place on him. I'd have more respect for him if he held on to is long held anti Europe beliefs.
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