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Six men have been jailed for their part in the grooming and abuse of five young girls in Rotherham.

The men subjected the girls to "degrading and violent" acts using drink, drugs and the "excitement of friendship" to lure them in.

The gang, who are all of British Pakistani heritage, targeted and groomed the girls over seven years.

A trial had heard how they raped and sexually abused them before passing them on to other men.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-46222421
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Report Just Checking November 16, 2018 10:49 PM GMT
The stand out point that the luvvie media and the apologists aren't accepting is hinted at above.
In "western" culture the deviants do this alone and would be very scared of revealing they did it to anyone else for fear of being reported.

In this culture, where there constant stream of cases shows there is an epidemic of it, it seems to be easier to form a r@pe gang than a 5 a side team. It's apparently incredibly trivial to find a whole bunch of your mates who are all totally ok with it and will join in and nobody will report it.

It's horrifying to contemplate this and why this would be.

Why isn't the above observation that seems to stand up to analysis, reported or discussed in "the media"?
Report saddo November 16, 2018 10:53 PM GMT
We haven't scratched the surface yet, they'll drip feed these cases in for years until it seems almost normalised by the time they get through em.
Report impossible123 November 16, 2018 10:59 PM GMT
It is evidently clear there is an agenda as to why venerable white young girls were targeted (not others) by these scumbags of British Pakistanis? I believe if the victims had been different the repercussions on those perpetrators and their community would have been felt soon after their 1st despicable and cowardice act had been made public.
Report Capt__F November 16, 2018 11:04 PM GMT
no mention on bbc news
Report moisok November 16, 2018 11:30 PM GMT
Clearly it is nation wide - why is there not a national enquiry into this.  The numbers are horrendous.

Meanwhile, what happens to all the authorities who have ignored or covered it up?
Report casemoney November 16, 2018 11:30 PM GMT
Murder. Insurance Fraud. Rapes , All part and parcel of Daily Life ,Except for Friday Lunch Time ..
Report impossible123 November 17, 2018 12:09 AM GMT
I believe it is no coincidence certain undesirable behaviours can only be attributed to certain group of people or nationalities eg honour killing, insurance fraud, motor fraud, online fraud, credit card, drug smuggling, etc.
Report Capt__F November 17, 2018 12:25 AM GMT
pak it in
Report casemoney November 17, 2018 12:31 AM GMT
Laugh
Report impossible123 November 19, 2018 12:50 PM GMT
What odds if the next report or conviction for grooming of venerable young white females in The UK is committed by British Pakistanis (again)? 1.00001?
Report woundedknee November 19, 2018 1:05 PM GMT
dont be silly it will be them nasty right wingers EDL
Report Slicer November 19, 2018 1:19 PM GMT
May I please remind everyone that it has nothing to do with Islam.
Report BARROWBOY November 19, 2018 1:24 PM GMT
Another 30 coming up for trial in kirklees
Report impossible123 November 19, 2018 1:33 PM GMT
You cannot be serious, Kirkless? If true, maybe an email to the terrestrial media could be appropriate and useful.
Report BARROWBOY November 19, 2018 1:43 PM GMT
Trial doesn’t start till sept next year for some reason,30 accused of rape sexual assault & child trafficking relating to 5 girls aged 13-15.its only a fortnight since the last gang were convicted in that area.
Report BARROWBOY November 19, 2018 1:49 PM GMT
Put on bail at Leeds crown court last Friday,wonder how many of em will still be here come next September.
Report woundedknee November 19, 2018 2:15 PM GMT
Yorkshire again ShockedSadCry
Report moisok November 19, 2018 2:32 PM GMT
I had to laugh - one lot they have just sent down  - they keep making this sikh prominent in newspaper photos - on his own in some - HE WASN'T A SIKH he was a muslim when he committed the crimes.  The newspapers clearly have an agenda
Report Reynard November 19, 2018 3:17 PM GMT
Dribs and drabs , kinda waters down the impact . maybe we need a bigger court up here in Groomland Shocked
Report leazes67 November 19, 2018 7:49 PM GMT
Why no London cases? laws of average and all that.
Report moisok November 19, 2018 8:10 PM GMT
Landaners do not behave like yorkshire men I will have you know
Report impossible123 November 19, 2018 9:58 PM GMT
London is cosmopolitan, and also the British Pakistani perpetrators do not have the dominance advantage in London than Yorkshire.
Report casemoney November 19, 2018 10:42 PM GMT
Victim in Blackpool ended up as Kebab Meat Sad
Report casemoney November 19, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/family-missing-14-year-old-10836108

Old news Just shows how Long  these Pigs have been at it ..
Report Reynard November 19, 2018 10:49 PM GMT
About 1400 years according to the manual . Very adept at it now Sad
Report lux November 20, 2018 10:01 AM GMT
The truly horrifying thing is not so much all the men that were directly involved, rather that of all the associated co-workers, friends, family members and other assorted hangers on who must have suspected or been witness this behaviour, not one, not one single Muslim, has given evidence against any of those charged.

That should tell you everything you need to know.
Report lux November 20, 2018 10:04 AM GMT
Not just in this case but in any of the cases.
Report impossible123 November 20, 2018 11:11 AM GMT
Culture and mentality; unity is strength; consanguineous marriage. Thus, living in insularity within one's own community and not integrating to discuss and exchange ideas resulting in arrogance, and loss of identity or conformity within one's community.
Report Slicer November 20, 2018 11:41 AM GMT
Why would Muslims snitch on other Muslims when "It's nothing to do with Islam"!
Report impossible123 November 20, 2018 11:46 AM GMT
Islam is not to blame, but the practitioners - they twist the teachings of Islam to facilitate their own causes. Another example,For instance, human beings: relatively the same everywhere, just their upbringing and environment determine majorly their future behaviour and conduct.
Report Slicer November 20, 2018 11:49 AM GMT
I agree that Islam is not to blame. The Quran dictates peace, harmony and love as evidenced in the following verses:


https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx
Report moisok November 20, 2018 1:37 PM GMT
Stop bringing this up all the time.  Any one would think this was going on all over the place.!!!!!Devil
Report moisok November 20, 2018 1:40 PM GMT
Dr slicer - I am sorry, but you have to realise the true meaning of what the quran says can only be understood if you have arabic. Therefore any interpretations by kufar are null and void.

hope this clears the matter upDevil
Report Slicer November 20, 2018 1:50 PM GMT
I see, so it loses a lot in translation.
Report saddo November 20, 2018 1:50 PM GMT
Meanwhile in Brussels, more snack bar capers.
Report impossible123 November 20, 2018 2:49 PM GMT
What are snack bar capers p;z? Is is slang?
Report moisok November 20, 2018 3:18 PM GMT
Alice has been busy in several european countries in the last 24 hours.


To help dr slicer -  it is what one does when one conquers - to the victors the spoils - it is written, understood and followed.

Re the translation - it is one of a myriad of excuses to excuse, to obfuscate and confuse the quaran's meanings as far as the naughty bits are concerned.  ie  'it doesn't actually mean that quite' then blah blah blah

I recommend any of the genuine islamic forums for discussion
Report saddo November 20, 2018 3:24 PM GMT
It means exactly what it says......or else
Report moisok November 20, 2018 3:28 PM GMT
NAWTY
Report woundedknee November 20, 2018 3:33 PM GMT
Are there reporting restrictions in this NEW FILTH Trial in Kirklees ?
Report saddo November 20, 2018 4:04 PM GMT
There appears to be reporting restrictions on anything which shows Islam in a bad light, certainly round here.
Report scaredmoney November 20, 2018 8:51 PM GMT
seen nowt in evening post or telegragph and argus
Report impossible123 November 20, 2018 9:16 PM GMT
Have you checked that community magazine or paper? If none, ask their reporters? Someone within that community must know something.
Report BARROWBOY November 20, 2018 11:33 PM GMT
Google ‘30 people to stand trial for the sexual abuse of young girls in huddersfield’that should flag up the story from last Friday in the local Huddersfield paper.
Report BARROWBOY November 20, 2018 11:37 PM GMT
Due to the numbers 3 separate trials scheduled sept 2019,jan 2020 & April 2020.plenty of time to skip the country.
Report casemoney August 28, 2019 8:44 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49500387

Another 6 Chaps removed 

1500 Kids involved over the Years Shocked
Report casemoney August 28, 2019 8:46 PM BST
Two other defendants who cannot be named for legal reasons were convicted of rape and indecent assault.

What Reasons ??
Report treetop August 28, 2019 8:58 PM BST
Cos they aren't royalty ? Never liked Andy Pandy much but he is never off the front pages for a lot less than this shower got up to.
Report impossible123 August 28, 2019 10:26 PM BST
One of the convicted defendants said: "It's not them telling the truth, it's me."

Quite a typical bs response from a member of that community when confronted with the truth. I'd had them begging and swearing to GOD (not their GOD) trying to deny their action or abhorrent behaviour, and I'm no officer of the law either.
Report casemoney August 29, 2019 12:12 AM BST
the 2 un named Chaps , must have further charges to face prob another hearing .
Report macarony August 29, 2019 1:01 AM BST
The silence from the metropolitans is deafening
Report impossible123 August 30, 2019 3:29 PM BST
Another 5 sentenced today ranging from 4 years to 24 years; a 5 year sentenced on one who's already serving a 15 year sentence imposed earlier for similar offences; one sentenced to 10 years, but cannot be named - a strange one (possibly another trial pending). And, they all have Asian names - no surprised there then.

A very low sentencing affair, nothing on major media eg SKY, BBC News, etc - racial connotation perhaps.
Report alun2005 August 30, 2019 3:49 PM BST
The silence from the metropolitans is deafening

Complete silence from feminists, self-imagined progressives and Lefties everywhere.

I guess there's still time for Sadiq Khan to parrot the "Diversity Is Our Strength" line, his words naturally to remain unchallenged by the London/Liberal media.
Report treetop August 30, 2019 4:39 PM BST
I wonder how many of these prosecutions may not havehappened without the agitation of people like Tommy Robinson,etc ? As that asian Labour MP said, these girls should shut the f*** up in the name of cultural cohesion.
Report starkeycars August 30, 2019 4:43 PM BST
No doubt will be headline news on C4 tonight Sarah champion got the  sacked by the Labour Party coybyn by telling the truth about these rape gangs  thank god he will never be in number 10 the scary thing is people do vote for him
Report alun2005 August 30, 2019 5:09 PM BST
Sarah Champion further and completely vindicated by the conviction of these monsters. She is owed an apology by the cowards of the Labour Party.

It must be quite clear now to even to the most deliberately blind of 'progressives' and Labour supporters that the scale of this problem is colossal. Yet still they remain silent, their 'liberal credentials' seemingly more important than the safety of sexually-underaged white British girls.

Shameless Corbyn's judgement exposed again as woeful.
Report GRANTCKING August 30, 2019 5:58 PM BST
alun, the white girls who have been abused and raped should "shut their mouths for the sake of diversity!"
Report alun2005 August 30, 2019 6:11 PM BST
Yes Granty, another Labour MP to thank for that revolting remark.

You'd think that would have made her persona no grata in political life. Far from it. Now in Shameless Corbyn's Shadow Cabinet.
Report Injera August 30, 2019 6:13 PM BST
BBC report:

Sentencing the five, Mr Slater said he was "quite satisfied" that the "relevant authorities" were well aware of the way vulnerable teenagers were being targeted for sexual exploitation at the time.

He described it as a "lamentable state of affairs", saying that the authorities at the time were at best "totally ineffectual" and, at worst "wholly indifferent".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49522660


Hard to get a more damning indictment than that. Sadly there will be no prosecutions within Govt bodies for their complicit actions.

This of course should be headline news tonight but it won't be....meanwhile Tommy's in Belmarsh for causing these nonces 'anxiety' (see the charge sheet).
Report impossible123 August 31, 2019 8:32 PM BST
'Grantcking' (17:58), who was responsible for that odious remark? A non-local MP?
Report impossible123 August 31, 2019 8:36 PM BST
By the way, the case concerning a Labour Lord (I think) whose identity escapes me at the moment and one of his relatives too has that come to court yet? Or the serving copper who subscribed to a porn channel using the dead girl's family home broadband account he was guarding?
Report doridoru August 31, 2019 8:39 PM BST

Aug 31, 2019 -- 8:32PM, impossible123 wrote:


'Grantcking' (17:58), who was responsible for that odious remark? A non-local MP?


This disgrace, of course a Labour Mp, an utter piece of trash who Corbyn actually promoted after that comment! disgusting!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Shah

Report doridoru August 31, 2019 8:46 PM BST
Here it all is, Corbyn gave her a promotion after such fine form...

In August 2017, Shah retweeted and liked a tweet from an Owen Jones parody account which read: "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity". Shah deleted the retweet and unliked the tweet soon after. A spokesperson for Shah said: "This was a genuine accident eight days ago that was rectified within minutes." Shah was quoted in the Rotherham Advertiser that she had been working for "over 20 years on the issues of child abuse, violence against women, and grooming. She has and will continue to advocate for all victims, and work towards eradicating this evil from society". Shah was criticised by the Equality and Human Rights Commission chief executive Rebecca Hilsenrath, who said the MP "should know better", and the controversy led to a campaign to have Shah resign or be removed from her job. A survivor of the Rotherham abuse called for Shah to make a public apology and resign.

Following Winnie Madikizela-Mandela's death in April 2018, Shah paid tribute to her on Twitter by tweeting an image with Mandela's quote: "Together, hand in hand, with our matches and our necklaces, we shall liberate this country."[44] The practice of necklacing is the summary execution and torture carried out by forcing a rubber tyre, filled with petrol, around a victim's chest and arms, and setting it on fire. Shah later deleted the tweet without comment.

******In July 2018, Shah was appointed Shadow Minister of State for Women and Equalities.******

UNREAL, BUT LABOUR IN ACTION
Report doridoru August 31, 2019 8:48 PM BST
She has a picture with Sadiq Khan on her Twitter pages, great friends with Diane Abbott.

THE LABOUR PARTY THE BIGGEST THREAT TO THIS COUNTRY SINCE HITLER AND RUSS ABBOTT
Report impossible123 August 31, 2019 9:34 PM BST
It's incredulous someone of her ilk can walk the corridors of power. How did she manage to become an MP? She did not even win the selection process; received only 13 votes - the winner received 142; no history of education; no experience of local politics. 

Political Correctness gone awry big time.
Report irishone August 31, 2019 9:58 PM BST
Amazing where idiots pop up
Report casemoney August 31, 2019 11:51 PM BST
By the way, the case concerning a Labour Lord (I think) whose identity escapes me at the moment and one of his relatives too has that come to court yet? Or the serving copper who subscribed to a porn channel using the dead girl's family home broadband account he was guarding?

"Ahmed and I believe a couple of Other Family Members "  All chaps of the book I would think .
Report akabula September 1, 2019 12:03 AM BST
Some party are Labour.
Naz Shah with this outrageous comment and this week Lammy called for civil disobedience similar to McDonnell albeit Lammy went one further by saying he'd join in.
Report casemoney September 1, 2019 12:12 AM BST
Not the Party I used to Vote For AKA , party is riddled with Rancid Types , Watson the Pedo Hunter ,How has he not been removed ??
Report akabula September 1, 2019 12:39 AM BST
I voted LibDem simply because of the candidate albeit Cable and now Swinson have put me off them.
I'm now a Tory voter but would welcome a Labour party devoid of the Corbynites.
Sad but had they been decorbynised at the last election they would have destroyed May at the polls.
Report impossible123 September 2, 2019 10:39 PM BST
Given the ages of these individuals I assume they were not born here thus could be deported after serving their sentences, if found guilty. I hope they also get poetic justice whilst in prison.

When one looks at Corbyn one thinks one's granddad could have done better and one's granddad is not politically minded; Corbyn has opinions on almost everything except Brexit - this is what every MPs in the last 3 years have been paid to do. But, they have not delivered; they dithered and dithered, and now we are back to square 1 - no progressed except being taken advantage of and laughed at by The EU negotiators and subjects.
Report saddo September 2, 2019 11:04 PM BST
There was a bunch in Keithley supposed to be deported on release from prison. So far they've spent over a million of taxpayers money on appeals and are still here.
Report akabula September 3, 2019 1:07 AM BST
The law needs to be tightened on deportation.
When the decision to deport is made it should be put to a suitable court to decide if the governments case is justified in law.
If that court decides it is then that should be an end of the matter and the deportation should be immediate.
Report saddo September 3, 2019 7:56 AM BST
They had ten years or more locked up, plenty of time for appealing battles in court. If they lose it should be a van from prison to an airport.
Report impossible123 September 3, 2019 11:22 PM BST
Abusing and grooming young vulnerable girls for sex is 1.000000000000001 a deportation matter - no mitigation permissible - other countries punishable by death eg China; that or their manhood surgically removed. And, no public funds for appeals against deportation either - their relatives and/or community could crowd fund if so wish.
Report akabula September 4, 2019 8:10 AM BST
You disagree about deportation for these people irishone?
Report detraveller September 4, 2019 1:22 PM BST
Which country are these men nationals or second nationals of?
Report terry mccann September 4, 2019 1:46 PM BST
South Africa with Dutch and German blood, but don't blame them,its all that in-breeding that makes them so nasty
Report terry mccann September 4, 2019 1:52 PM BST
Detroller,wheres the scumsucking in chief mex? Ive really missed that bastardMischief
Report detraveller September 4, 2019 1:57 PM BST
Terry stop trolling.
Report terry mccann September 4, 2019 1:58 PM BST
Yeah I really mustTongue Out
Report Injera September 4, 2019 3:46 PM BST
#MeToo movement all over this one I see...


Not. Sad
Report Hanx September 4, 2019 4:32 PM BST
It isn’t hard to see why.

The problem is that this case involved the wrong kind of victim (white working class girls) and the wrong kind of perpetrator (Muslim men)
Report Injera September 4, 2019 5:14 PM BST
Same with Black Lives Matter. They don't care when black kids are killed by black kids.

#Metoo should be all over these grooming gangs. Also the feminist media and MPs. Sadly multiculturalism and the spread of Islam is more important than white girls' lives.
Report casemoney September 4, 2019 9:59 PM BST
Its more important than Any thing , nothing negative can be said ...
Report detraveller September 5, 2019 7:20 AM BST

Sep 4, 2019 -- 1:22PM, detraveller wrote:


Which country are these men nationals or second nationals of?


Anyone?

Report trilby22 September 5, 2019 8:57 AM BST
Who cares where they're from?  Just neuter the filthy scum.  That'll calm them down!  Oh hold on, forgot about "human rights".  They're sub-human though and should be treated like the dogs they are.  End of Angry
Report detraveller September 5, 2019 8:59 AM BST
That's how the public reacts. Then they forget it because they find something else to complain about.

When people on here were talking about deportation I was pretty sure these people neither have a clue what deportation is nor do they know which country they expect these people deported to.

Looks like my guess was right.
Report Hanx September 5, 2019 9:34 AM BST
That's how the public reacts. Then they forget it because they find something else to complain about.

When people on here were talking about deportation I was pretty sure these people neither have a clue what deportation is nor do they know which country they expect these people deported to.

Looks like my guess was right.


An excellent point.

Centuries of lawmaking and testing of thse laws, have resulted in the UK having a legal system that, IMO, is the best in the world. Sure it's not perfect and folks can doubtless quote any number of miscarriages of justice, but it balances punishment with compassion and the leeway for redemption. It's also not a static beast reflecting new crimes and punishments for them. Again, this is not perfect (personally I think laws relating to 'Hate Crimes' should never have seen the light of day and should be rescinded immediately) but like our friend says, knee jerk demands for repatriation....the death penalty....castration (really? Time to take a look at yourselves) result in at best, terrible laws and at worst, chaos.

Nonetheless regarding Rotherham and similar cases, the public has every right to question the mindset of those charged with enforcing the law and the extent to which this was (and still continues to be) manipulated by sectional interest groups, right-on 'groupthink' and a victim hierarchy' in which white working class girls are right at the bottom.
Report impossible123 September 5, 2019 6:51 PM BST
If I have my way I'd exterminate them soon after sentencing saving on prison costs and space - resources could be better spent elsewhere; these monsters do not deserve a life post offences, period.
Report casemoney September 5, 2019 10:40 PM BST
Police Officer  Sent to Look after a Childs Dead body ,decides to pass the Time banging the bishop , tells all we need to know tbh , there is some seriously  wrong .. Not sure if he was a Chap of the Book  , but would not be out of Place in a Line up with this scum .
Report trilby22 September 6, 2019 8:39 AM BST
knee jerk Do what Hanx?  Ten months is knee jerk?

castration (really?  Yes, really.

Time to take a look at yourselves  I always had you down as a most reasonable and sensible poster but not on this occasion, I regret to say.

With all due respect, Trav.  You're talking mince.
Report impossible123 September 6, 2019 7:55 PM BST
The fathers of children in broken marriages are asked to help pay for the upkeep of their children (and rightly so) thus convicted perpetrators of vulnerable young girls ought to be asked to do the same for the mental and physical damage caused as a result of their sick behaviour or subject to chemical "castration" (the opposite of Viagra) to prevent further bad deeds of this nature.

There are some crimes that can be tolerated, but taken advantage of venerable young females is not one of them; exterminate is fast and effective similarly, chemical castration.
Report HGS September 6, 2019 8:09 PM BST
impossible123
By the way, the case concerning a Labour Lord (I think) whose identity escapes me at the moment and one of his relatives too has that come to court yet? Or the serving copper who subscribed to a porn channel using the dead girl's family home broadband account he was guarding?

A cop who bought 4 porn videos at a hanged child's home while waiting for the undertaker has been jailed for 12 months. PC Avi Maharaj, 44, who paid thorugh the family's Virgin TV , was arrested when the lad's dad reported the purchase believing it may be connected to the death. Judge Deborah Taylor told Maharaj at Southwark Crown Court: "All right-thinking people would be appalled by your gross lack of decency and respect." Maharaj of Hayes, West London admitted fraud in July.

Couldn't they also have  him on owt better than fraud? Despicable.
Report HGS September 6, 2019 8:11 PM BST
Not sure that's the same case impossible??
Report impossible123 September 6, 2019 9:40 PM BST
It is the same case - a 14 yr old kid committed suicide.

I think just sacking him is not deterrent enough given the shame and disrepute he's brought to his employer. But, charging him with fraud (he lied/impersonated someone else/obtained a service paid for by another person) will ensure he loses his job plus all the benefits that go with it, and expulsion from the Met Police for good.

Accessing porn is not a criminal offence unless it is paedophilia.
Report casemoney September 6, 2019 11:23 PM BST
As I have stated before I wonder if the Body was examined prior to Burial , Lord knows what the animal is capable of, a very Distressing case for the family ,quite beyond belief ...
Report impossible123 September 7, 2019 9:27 AM BST
I believe it was mentioned the disgraced officer's wife had earlier suffered a miscarriage having spent many "£000's on IVF. I hope it was not used in mitigation nevertheless, no excuse for his despicable behaviour either.
Report casemoney September 7, 2019 5:57 PM BST
Plenty of of Rape gang action in Sweden ,any one reporting the Events deemed racist .
Report Reynard September 7, 2019 9:22 PM BST
I didn't think anyone was reporting these events , unless omitting any mention of names , nationality , culture , ideology or common denominators relating to the aforementioned Confused
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