Glad to see Sir Neil of Andrew reads my rants here :)

Always surprises me that comedians don't make more humour about the left movement.Plenty of material just ignored.

And osmond is straight in there with some form of "-ist" allegation/attack against someone who dare voices the truth on something.
What a typical CLASSIC leftie response, a brilliant example of what the the good guys in modern times are fighting.


I'd crack that joke again or I fear I (once again) would have to explain an obvious joke to mr osmond.!

cadwalloder was telling the truth

neill attempted to shut her down!!




has he apologised yet?

Actually he did Donny and conceded his comment had been inappropriate.
On the point of the thread then AN is spot on. Wouldn't mind if the 'humour' was good but ……
BTW anxious should do stand up with his spiv Tory fanboys catchphrase a sure fire winner.

rather like when he claimed scottish kids were illiterate it seems
as if the apologies are somewhat forced and inadequate

Awww bl00dy diddums boo bl00dy hoo, his tweet (on his own account on his own time) about this guardian woman was not that bad at all, it was I suppose mildly unprofessional but the outraged snowflake lefties who infest society like rats are trying to have him hung for it. I saw her on TV the other day and she seemed to be a doolally angry remoaner who thought this facebook/brexit thing and Arron guy she's been obsessed with were somehow incredibly important and meant the referndum was therefore invalid, and if the tweet image I saw yesterday was correct and from her, she was making completely bat sh1t crazy allegations that BBC were complicit in a conspiracy covering up deliberate electoral fraud.

I think Neil was right on the money. Remoaners and professionally outraged SJWs are of course however trying to say he's a misogynst evil fascist scumbag for a tweet they didn't like. Well of course barely a day goes by the professionally offended lefties don't try and get SOMEONE for a vaguely un-PC tweet. Give it a couple decades we'll be getting done for thought crime.

It is simply incorrect to say that any comment that is negative about a woman is misogynst or any comment about a non white person is racist etc etc.
The pattern is clear:
* Someone says anything "bad" about anyone who isn't a white western male.
* The "professionally outraged" will immediately play some "-ist" card. Knee jerk say they are therefore a bigot, one step away from a nazi.

The "mad cat woman" in the simpsons is a culturally familiar example of a mad person. To compare a woman who is acting bat-sh1t to her is not anti woman. If an incompetent white male police chief were accused of being like Chief Wiggum, no SJW would ever say this was misandrist or racist. I'm sure however if Chief Wiggum were black and the incompetent man were black the -ist card would be played before you could say "hypocrisy". And so it goes on...

the so called leftie bbc continues to give a platform to the taxpayers alliance, the institute of economic affairs, the adam smith institute and all the other tory front groups despite these lobbyists being caught out engaging in nefarious practices and knowing nothing about the subjects they are supposedly specialists in.

the taxpayers alliance has admitted they unfairly sacked and smeared one of their employees, the bbc provided a platform for the hatchet job but didnt give him any right of reply. is neil up in arms about this?

surely giving a platform to propagandists masquerading as think tanks to spread their disinformation on serious programmes is far more serious a problem than allowing unfunny comedians a platform to be unfunny?

indeed jol. Some very unsavoury connections seem to be emerging of late that make the Beeb's claims of impartiality a bit suspect.

*wants

great thread jc

not going how you wanted it

throw abuse at people with counter opinion to you



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LOL. Batting away the rubbish above is effortless, you need to understand the difference between quality and quantity.

1.01 landed that you would just shout nonsense at me rather than deal in facts, as usual. i am not a leftie, for instance i believe that all benefits and state pensions should be means tested, i think that might rule me out of membership of any leftie party

in the past i was rude to you just checking and i dont really want to be as its all a bit pointless. however its hard to take you seriously when you talk such utter tosh.  you are locked in your own impenetrable bubble on broadcast mode only, impervious to anything that conflicts with your prejudices.

I was talking mostly to osmond but yes I batted them away. You seemed to be making the argument that because the BBC sometimes allow people on who aren't leftie this means they aren't biased. This is collosally and fundamentally an invalid non argument. It's hardly with pointing this out as it's so obvious but it apparently has to be.

Then you say this:

"surely giving a platform to propagandists masquerading as think tanks to spread their disinformation on serious programmes is far more serious a problem than allowing unfunny comedians a platform to be unfunny?"

Firstly you are, as I say, suggesting people you don't agree with should be no platformed, then saying letting them speak is more serious. WEll is it? Who watches theses programmes? For a large swathe of the population, especially younger folk, they never watch these programs. The viewing figures are tiny. But for the comedy shows, espeically in certain demographics, the figures and % audience will be hugely different. And all that we get from them is a one way assault: Brexit is bad, people who voted Brexit are stupid racists, the Tories and anyone vaguely right of centre is bad, and sometimes, "Corbyn and the far left are good". The latter has quite explicit, from e.g. Frankie Boyle + his awful sidekick, and even worse on Channel 4, e.g. the horrendous Last Leg after Corbyn lost was 1 hour of a funeral wake where they didn't even mince their words they supported him.

Who is their target audience? What are the viewing figures vs obscure political shows.


As Neil accurately says of the Daily Mash, if it was a political program it would be forced to be balanced but it IS A political program.

batted away

More  complete drivel  , its the same old song

i am against people masquerading as one thing when clearly they are something else, to say this means i am against free speech is about as stupid as it gets.
i have not suggested no platforming anyone, as usual its all in your mind. and you get to use one of your go to phrases so well done. if the bbc wants them on they should introduce them as what they are, lobbyists not independent think tanks.

you are unraveling your own argument, thank you. you've gone from the absurd claim that they 'sometimes get a little slot' to now saying  'the BBC sometimes allow people on who aren't leftie'. keep going and eventually you'll get to the truth. these groups are actually on a hell of a lot - question time, political programmes, news programmes, paper reviews, they are all over the media (not just the bbc).

i am not a fan of big government, however i dont like the influence of big money that drives these organisations who are basically one and the same group. the head of the iea was caught pimping access to government ministers, how can they possibly claim to be independent?

just because you say the bbc is left wing doesnt meant it is, you see what you want to see. most mornings lefties are bursting at the seams on twitter in much the same way as you, their complaint? the bbc and the today programme on radio 4 in particular are pro brexit and anti labour. one group thinks of the bbc as the brussels broadcasting corporation yet another thinks of it as the brexit broadcasting corporation

you, like so many, operate in a binary world which is why you incorrectly labelled me a leftie. and i am not a fan of the bbc, i dont think its standards are very good, its just its nothing to do with left or right. the bbc allowed the tpa to besmirch one of its ex employees on one of their channels but didnt give him any right of reply, that is very poor journalism again its nothing to do with left/right.

But political and satirical comedy has always been left wing. If not left wing, it's always taken pot shots at the establishment and those in power.


Them's basically the rules.


It's not really funny to take the side of Rees-Mogg etc and poke fun at the unemployed, disabled or the poor. There just aren't the laughs in it and the butts of the joke aren't able to defend themselves.



To make out this is some left wing policy or conspiracy is plainly nonsense. It's just that most comedy is anti-establishment and even when the comedians are poking fun at the left (eg when Boyle frequently railed against Corbyn) then it's just conveniently forgotten by the constantly offended.

Quite