Merkel calls for a "true European army"

...you can and they do as they go along

https://twitter.com/tomhfh/status/1062361199709507584

Someone needs to tell Nick...........

You actually couldn't, she needs a European army to defend against the non European army which she put among us.

Or to defend the EU from those dastardly populists..

she could also just have an immigrant only army and kill two birds with one stone, so to speak

Well countries that want to cede from Der Union or pass budgets it doesn't agree with god forbid vote for parties that believe in policies contrary to the EU, they must be controlled somehow.. The name European Union is getting a bad press these days, time for another name change.

European Reich has a ring to it. Ahh but that has European in it. Well it's controlled from the centre, France and Germany.

How about Central Powers Reich?

So on migration she still doesn't think it was a bad idea throwing the door open to every chancer liar fraudster sex pest and jerhadi from every corner south or east of Naples, just not enough preparation for them? WAC that woman is.

you all laughed at my 4th Reich, merkel and the expansion east ho ho ho

barniershturmer and oberleutnant Tusk have been making lots of aggressive and war like statements

how very interesting

the eu nations are going to learn how to obey

Macron used Sunday to make a point attacking Nationalism.

The EU is nationalistic, just on a bigger scale:

Flag
Parliament
Protectionism
Currency
Army..

Anthem
Laws..

Constitution
Corrupt politicians with snout in the trough
Foreign policy agenda
The only thing it doesn't have is a signed off budget!

Who in their right mind would die for the EU?

Theresa May

Who in their right mind would die for the EU?

but you would for the UK?

Jackboot Merkel, trying to goosestep her way into history.

Remember the set to Nick Clegg had with Farage when Farage said an EU army was the plan.

Clegg denied that an EU army was a even a possibility. What a berk Clegg turned out to be.

TheBaron - I'm not a royalist but I would die for my Queen. I didn't vote for May but I would die for my PM.

I'd even die for you.

It's called being a patriot.

this is so funny

All very commendable and just the attitude that those in power have exploited for centuries.

There's nothing wrong with stopping a bullet for your country.

Just don't ask me to do it.

Baron - so you have more allegiance to the EU or Germany then?

Good luck with that!

er...what?

1+1=3  does it?

"The EU was not adequately prepared for the number of arrivals"  shure wasn't she giving all and sundry the welcome red carpet.

She with that attitude then was imo directly responsible for brexit,she should in a fair world be compensating the UK,not trying to bleed them.

I thought merkel's creation of the self inflicted "migrant crisis" was rewarded at the German votes recently? Oh wait she was "rewarded"! .

She'll be hated for decades and rightly so.

Baron - so who/what would you fight for. Your family, property, pet, friend, neighbourhood?

As you'll know patriotism starts very locally and then expands. It expands to counties, countries, to a group of Allies on an international stage.

All people are patriots of a kind. Just depends on how each person defines it.

I bet if I burst through your beech hedge uninvited you'd defend your loved ones to the death.

People don't fight for their country they fight for

1. Themselves
2. Family
3. Friends

Anything else like country etc comes way down the list....unless you're a bit gullible which is what those in power love to exploit..

Having a laugh fxxking Germans have never contributed fully to NATO and now they want a European army they'll need to step up their defence spending from the piddling 1.4 of their GDP. Trust me stick with who we can rely on the Americans, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Even the Europeans better watch out if they think this country would go to war under Jeremy

Dear me are you gloryfying it again dan , i watched a programme last night on WW1 where soldiers who had developed PTSD had been shot for alleged cowardice when in fact they were suffering from combat stress formerly known as shell shock , even recent conflicts guys who suffered from PTSD  had been shunned by the army

So its cannon fodder and billions spent on weapons of Mass destruction , that war for you

Not glorifying war at all anxious as someone who has served in the military I can tell you the vast majority in the forces would never want to see a war. As for the WW1 soldiers I said to my good lady how sorry I felt for those poor lads given that we have a better understanding of PTSD today, there was nothing for them. I will add mate and I do think of you as a mate and we have a jolly up and a wind up this is one issue that I don't take lightly so please no more I glorify war. My son currently serves in the United States Marine Corp so not only for him but for every young man or woman who serves I hope they all never have to put into use what they have been trained for.

you want to read the warlike rhetoric also coming from barnierstchormer and  oberleutnant Tusk

to be used against recalcitrant members or others who will just simply not agree.

it is moving towards controlled europe  - well, even more controlled but much tighter with force to back it up



back to the dark days

So its cannon fodder and billions spent on weapons of Mass destruction , that war for you 

In general I refer to my last post but my position on our nuclear deterrent is if we are attacked we should use a capability to strike back. Bit like yer dad telling you if someone hits you hit em back

Yes dan i accept what you have said , the programme i thought was  very upsetting though and the resources that the army and the government have to deal with this issue is pitiful , i know some lads who were in the forces and they ended up messed up the ptsd and were on drugs and boooze to deal with it

No probs anxious. And totally agree looking after our troops should be one of the Governments highest priorities. At least they get some help now unlike the poor sods in WW1

merkel  macaroni  tusk and barnier stoking it up - the drums begin to beat

wtf are these people like??

Think it's a given that we'll p1ss the Russians off but why upset the Yanks

A subtle distraction from their "immigration" policy and Union of The Europeans.

Millions have fought for this Country  , The Luvvie mob Fight against this Country welcoming all sorts , with open arms ,We should have a New policy  on Immigration Post Brexit the New arrivals Move in With Luvvies to set Them on the Straight and Narrow , Barron and The team will be Delighted to invite  40 year old Geezer Children in to their Homes ,what could go Wrong

If there is to be a European Army which nation will the Major General come from? How do they intend to conscript from the youth. More crucially who do they expect to be the member states' mutual enemy in order to build up such a huge defensive system and even more crucially do they expect to start a war?

The EU already has has the three branches of government - legislative (Parliament), executive (the Commission) and judiciary (The Court of Justice). It has all the accoutrements of a state: ambassadors, a currency, central bank and monetary policy to name but a few, never mind fripperies like a flag and a national anthem. The word 'National' being entirely apt, since is there any doubt that this is shortly to become a Country in name as well as fact, with it's own army the final fact that seals the deal.

...with unelected types like Martin Selmayr and Jean Claude Junker at its epicentre.

Remainers never address this onward march, presenting their argument as a return to a status quo and Leavers as hankering after 'Old Empire' where in truth, the only empire being built is one with Brussels as Rome