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The Leopard
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....from Clacton-on-Sea, Essex.

The panellists are

Chief Treasury Secretary Liz Truss,

Shadow Transport Secretary Andy McDonald,

Senior Editor at The Economist Anne McElvoy,

Associate Director of the Institute of Economic Affairs Kate Andrews
and
comedian Shappi Khorsandi
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Report moisok November 1, 2018 10:12 PM GMT
why not 5 comedians - we could have a super 'progressive' slant - imagine!!!


or is that already 5 comedians
Report trilby22 November 1, 2018 10:19 PM GMT
Liz is stuck on a train and won't be there.

https://twitter.com/trussliz/status/1058097479105855488
Report trilby22 November 1, 2018 10:20 PM GMT
Allegedly Wink
Report bongo November 1, 2018 10:23 PM GMT
Recorded at 8:00pm
Broadcast at 10:45pm
This delay is appalling - a resigning matter to be frank - I hope Tracy Crouch won't now renew her licence fee
Report moisok November 1, 2018 10:56 PM GMT
audience full of unemployed ho ho   sorry!!!

do they know where the money comes from
Report moisok November 1, 2018 10:57 PM GMT
the rest are non wealth makers  - why do Labour always talk over others - are they trained to do this
Report Platini November 1, 2018 11:25 PM GMT
the lovely Kate Love Andrews  speaking far too much sense for this programme.  Cool
Report Just Checking November 1, 2018 11:25 PM GMT
Just switched this festival of virtue signalling idiots on.
The policewoman today said the police should not be wasting time on things THAT ARE NOT CRIMES, she talked about things where "no crime was committed".

And misogyny isn't even a crime.

Two answers in and both are ignoring this. Or are supposed to be on sharing their wisdom with us, and don't even know this basic fact.

Finally 3rd person in and we've someone who actually knows what she's talking about. (Not a leftie of course...).
Report Platini November 1, 2018 11:29 PM GMT
real women aren't buying the misogyny narrative BS
Report Platini November 1, 2018 11:32 PM GMT
you're not allowed to dare suggest Foreign aid should be less funded than home aid for the poor and homeless. Crazy
Report anxious November 1, 2018 11:33 PM GMT
Fanboys out in force again , waving their daily mails at everybody
Report moisok November 1, 2018 11:35 PM GMT
she doesn't seem to be starving - the size of her - did she have two tickets for that space?
Report moisok November 1, 2018 11:36 PM GMT
where does the money come from to spend on the non  wealth producing gravy train workers in the Councils all over the country and packed into the civil service!!??
Report anxious November 1, 2018 11:40 PM GMT
The amount of people working in councils has dropped dramatically over the last 35 years , most of the care work and social hosing has been raided by the private cowboy firms , ie thatchers mob
Report Platini November 1, 2018 11:42 PM GMT
Jeezusf**k George Soros makes this Aaron Banks guy look like a pauper, FFS CrazyCrazy
Report moisok November 1, 2018 11:44 PM GMT
'allegations that the money comes from foreign sources'  how is dimbulbubbly allowed to say that??

I notice how 'balanced' the audience is in response to the Banks. question.

cue dimbublebury interruption of woman talking facts and sense and then he is in again

HOW ABOUT ALL THE FOREIGN MONEY THAT WENT INTO THE REMAIN CAMPAIGN
Report moisok November 1, 2018 11:47 PM GMT
no anxious not the care workers honey

the fkn bloated management and civil service


they actually cut the street cleaners whilst maintaining their bloated pensionable positions behind their desks

i actually talk to those who work on the streets - I wish they would run the services
and of course there is the deadly contracting out scandal in operation

I am glad I am no longer involved in any of that crap
Report anxious November 1, 2018 11:52 PM GMT
Indeed have you forgotten about the cuts to councils over the last 8 years , mainly labour councils that have been hit and some tory ones by this diabolical free market fanatical government
Report anxious November 1, 2018 11:53 PM GMT
Real cuts to services in real terms , mainly out of political spite and vindictiveness
Report Platini November 1, 2018 11:54 PM GMT
Did I just here Dimbelby say that JP was one of the panelists for next week's QT ?   Surprised
Report moisok November 1, 2018 11:56 PM GMT
but their are zillions of management hangers on
not doing anything much

I know people who face them every day whilst trying to do their job on the streets
Report moisok November 1, 2018 11:57 PM GMT
and dimble bubbly said the banks item 'being investigated over 8 million of foreign money'

so he is judge and jury

surely that is a legal case against the bbc for starters

what a prune
Report anxious November 1, 2018 11:59 PM GMT
All this done in the name of austerity by the tory filth
Report moisok November 2, 2018 12:00 AM GMT
anx  although you are a comrade  you really need to get out more
Report anxious November 2, 2018 12:03 AM GMT
Moisok why can you not bring yourself to criticise the tories and their evil ways , this is the reality ?
Report moisok November 2, 2018 12:13 AM GMT
you clearly do not read my posts

just called them  sh!TS eleswhere over other issues 

hope this helps

but I am not a tribesman or a progressives supporter

or the so called socialists of the blackshirt storm troopers of mummy's men tum

I think for myself thank you

'the tories and their evil ways' statement smacks of evangelicalism

I hope I find you well and flourishing

my lot down here are so un Labour - they are more into cheese and wine and dinners

I kid you not  - not a Labour area at all (and that is the Labour MEMBERS!!)
Report anxious November 2, 2018 12:18 AM GMT
Thank you for you concern i hope all is well is The West Landan Penthouse , yes im not defending so called progressives who drink a lot of wine, im talking about real cuts to services which impact on the old , the disabled and childrens lives
Report moisok November 2, 2018 12:34 AM GMT
sorry I have to get some sleep  - I am worrying over the right ingredients for various 'curry' recipes at the moment for the weekend  - want something different in the green veg sort of dish as an accompaniment

I have my priorities - you simply do not realise how hard it is to maintain street cred with the islington brigade

best wishes
Report moisok November 2, 2018 12:35 AM GMT
pps  landan is just not Labour like wot it waz in the midlands where i woz for so long
Report flushgordon1 November 2, 2018 7:02 AM GMT
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-latin-america-45879534/venezuela-crisis-...   The much vaunted example of socialism as held up by jezzbollah and ira Johnny.
Report akabula November 2, 2018 8:19 AM GMT
anxious it was the mismanagement of the last labour government that forced austerity on us.
Report trilby22 November 2, 2018 8:44 AM GMT
Jordan Peterson on next week, apparently CoolLoveExcited
Report trilby22 November 2, 2018 8:47 AM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 12:54AM, Platini wrote:


Did I just here Dimbelby say that JP was one of the panelists for next week's QT ?   


Sorry Plat, I posted before I red the fred.

Is JP confirmed then?

Report akabula November 2, 2018 9:28 AM GMT
Be a must watch with JP on.
Anybody know who the other panellists are?
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:11 AM GMT
Akabula here you are again peddling the tory lie machine about Labour causing austerity , did the world wide financial crash of 2008 never occur then ?
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:24 AM GMT
It wasn’t world wide , not in Poland for example
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:26 AM GMT
Once America was in trouble then Britain was in trouble
Because of government policies
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:28 AM GMT
The Labour Party caused the problems   , the tories have the difficult task of clearing up the mess
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:29 AM GMT
Absolute garbage , lies lies and more lies
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:31 AM GMT
The housing market was over inflated and wild casino type gambling of the financial markets caused it
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:31 AM GMT
anxious it was the Labour Party in power , they were making the decisions , they must take the blame
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:34 AM GMT
bad government policies and poor regulation under the labour government
That’s what caused the crash, it was inevitable given the governments policies
The banking crash was merely the symptom not the cause
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:37 AM GMT
lfc im not trying to say that they were not partly culpable but to say they were to blame is ridiculos and untrue , the tories  would have de- regulated the markets even more because they are in hoc to the financial establishment even more
Report trilby22 November 2, 2018 10:38 AM GMT
Mon 17 May 2010

Ex-Treasury secretary Liam Byrne's note to his successor: there's no money left

Byrne left letter on desk for incoming minister David Laws

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/may/17/liam-byrne-note-successor
.
Leftie rag, so it must be true WinkCrazy
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:39 AM GMT
There is a myth about the tories and so called financial prudence , they always borrow more Labour and and pay it back more slowly , check the facts before you waffle
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:39 AM GMT
sorry it’s not good enough for labour supporters to say that
The Labour Party ****** up , and they haven’t learnt any lessons
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:39 AM GMT
Trilby there was no money partly because of the bail outs to the banks
Report trilby22 November 2, 2018 10:40 AM GMT
We can always rely on Labour for financial Armageddon.
Report trilby22 November 2, 2018 10:41 AM GMT
The banks?  Now, they really are a bunch a spivs!
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:42 AM GMT
We can always rely on the Spivs to impose Austerity on the people whilst thier rich buddies get away with it scott free
Report trilby22 November 2, 2018 10:43 AM GMT
Their there Grin

Gotta hang out the washing - cheery bye ra noo
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:44 AM GMT
We know the Labour Party want to blame the banks they are a convienient scapegoat for the labour parties wreckless policies
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 10:46 AM GMT
Unbelievable that Blair and Brown crash the economy and somehow it’s not their fault
No wonder the countries in a mess
Report Reynard November 2, 2018 10:54 AM GMT
akabula • November 2, 2018 9:28 AM GMT
Be a must watch with JP on.
Anybody know who the other panellists are?

Whoever they got lined up will probably be 'doing their hair' or otherwise engaged . The last thing they would want is to be involved in an intelligent debate that they gonna come out the wrong side of Blush
Report anxious November 2, 2018 10:55 AM GMT
Blair was culpable with his fanatical free market agenda to some degree but again its total rubbish to ignore the world wide crash , lfc are you on the payroll of tory central office ?
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 11:27 AM GMT
anxious it wasn’t a world wide crash of course we are not immune from what happens elsewhere but the secret is for it not to matter too much if there are problems in America or Europe or any other part of the world
And also of course the economy must be able to withstand any crash outside the country , that’s government policy
It doesn’t mean that companies and banks might not go bust , they should do they must be able to
There must be this safety valve
Then it doesn’t matter
Report RacingCert November 2, 2018 11:33 AM GMT
Amusing how many labour people are throwing their most successful leader, TB, under a bus these days.
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 11:34 AM GMT
Yes but they are doing that ...for the wrong reasons
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 11:35 AM GMT
silly billies can’t even get that right
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 11:40 AM GMT
It’s not their fault , it’s all very senseless they are blind ,
I don’t want a future
Report lfc1971 November 2, 2018 11:43 AM GMT
the best we can hope is that things don’t get worse , well that’s inevitable look around
Report Hanx November 2, 2018 12:17 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 12:33PM, RacingCert wrote:


Amusing how many labour people are throwing their most successful leader, TB, under a bus these days.


Labour under Corbyn has probably reached its ceiling, even allowing for the completely useless nature of the present government and the gullability / stupidity of its burgeoning 'yoof' demographic.

Therefore the 'reBlairisation' (New, new, new Labour anyone?) has begun with 'man of principle' Corbyn rowing back from his lifelong Euroscepticism to embrace, well, we're not sure quite what but something emollient and wishy washy he can b/s the electorate with. Same with Bootboy McDonnell NOT committing to booting out the Tories tax cuts announced in Monday's budget.

They know they need to keep the Islington set onside if they are ever to achieve power.

Report moisok November 2, 2018 1:06 PM GMT
YES we will be very miffed if our weekend dinner parties get upset by the great unwashed from oop north!!
Report RacingCert November 2, 2018 1:56 PM GMT
Do we really think that reblairification can happen?
Surely momentum don’t want it and they’ve lost Scotland.
It’s very hard to see them getting a majority either way.
Report Hanx November 2, 2018 2:48 PM GMT

Nov 2, 2018 -- 2:56PM, RacingCert wrote:


Do we really think that reblairification can happen?Surely momentum don’t want it and they’ve lost Scotland.It’s very hard to see them getting a majority either way.


Good question.

Personally, I think Labour will do the square root of sweet FA and simply wait for the Tories to implode under the weight of their own uselessness, bickering, death of core supporters and their own imbecile unquestioning yoof demographic to grow over the next couple of years.

Blairification or not, it doesn't really matter, so long as they don't drop the ball too hard or often.

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