Theres a major incident at Leicester city fc. Emergency services attending

Oh dear! Nothing on BBC News yet.

Image on now. A fireball. Horrible sight.

That's dreadful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7aQerzD65k

every home game.. pictures of previous match..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QxQMoA_G0M

sad and tragic... you just dont know.

If the tail rotor stops you are pretty much ****ed.

I wonder .. perhaps more helicopters could use the two contra rotating main blades system? It more stable as the "torque" evens out.
It's what they use in many cheap kids RC helicopters.

The russians make them but can't think of many/any western manufactures that do.

Has anyone ever been in a Helicopter ?

it's always been a phobia of mine, just seems, feels and looks less safe than planes.

One witness said it appeared "the tail propeller wasn't working, putting it into a spin"

He told 5 Live: "Literally the engine stopped and I turned around, and it made a bit of a whirring noise.

"It turned silent, blades started spinning and then there was a big bang."

He said when he ran to the scene "there was a huge fireball" and it looked like the helicopter had crashed in an industrial park next to the stadium.

I have. I can't remember being scared the thing but you maybe don't realise is just how ****ing LOUD they are even inside.

Not sure if some can be made quiet like for fancy millionaires, even as a back seat passenger I was given protective ear defenders.

I have a couple of times. Never really thought anything of any risk involved at the time.

Went on one to the Grand Canyon, think I may have been p1ssed when I booked it though

Sky Sports are reporting that Leicester City vice-chairman Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha was also NOT on board the helicopter.

They earlier said Jon Rudkin, the Director of Football at Leicester City was also NOT on board.

Appears  the sky news statement has been withdrawn....

Dreadful ,a town in morning ..

Mourning

I have always considered them to be very dangerous machines.

It is very sad for the families concerned.

Went to Royal Ascot on a friends helicopter a couple of years ago with him and he's dad, only took 40 mins instead of 2 hours .
it was noisy and never felt as safe as when on a jumbo jet

A very sad story, like Joel I've only been in a chopper once and that was to land in the Grand Canyon. It was OK but not really exhilarating in any way.

statistically safer then a car i dare say and quicker  .... yet i would never feel that safe in one  (never been in one as i don't tend to move in those circles - a beaten up car for me is my transport )

those stats mean nothing coachbuster, figures inflated highly because of young teen drivers, car fatalities are the worlds  number 1 casue of deaths for teenagers.

If a helicopter crashes it's highly likely you're dead, if your car crashes you're more likely to survive without the car bursting into flames.

Considered safe enough for both the Princes to get jobs flying in them?

US pres regularly flys in one?

they're are safe in the sense they've passed all the safety checks, but when it comes to malfunctioning or any incident, would you rather be in a car or Helicopter.

Oct 28, 2018 -- 6:55PM, scandanavian_haven wrote:

those stats mean nothing coachbuster, figures inflated highly because of young teen drivers, car fatalities are the worlds  number 1 casue of deaths for teenagers.If a helicopter crashes it's highly likely you're dead, if your car crashes you're more likely to survive without the car bursting into flames.

I get that SH  ... although  i must admit driving round Wales and feeling i would have felt safer in a helicopter with NO propellers

i always say in a car too SH,  that you have a certain amount of control over your destiny ...or in other words  ...thinking ahead and anticipating a hazard .

i'm amazed folk don't have more car accidents

Control , you have none my friend

Oct 28, 2018 -- 6:58PM, Just Checking wrote:

Considered safe enough for both the Princes to get jobs flying in them?

and also their mother died in a car ... so they might think that car travel was much more dangerous

Oct 28, 2018 -- 7:12PM, conditor wrote:

Control , you have none my friend

i've avoided many an accident by  being prepared  ...like i say ,surprised there aren't more fatalities on the road .

In a helicopter up high  you're at the mercy of sound  engineering  ...not many accidents are human error

This accident seems mysterious to me.  Why no news of any hospital, details of how any survivors are, who actually died?

The BBC understands two crew members and three passengers were on board.

are the bbc blaming trump or brexit yet

woops don't say that no matter how accurate an observation it is, forum self appointed voice of reason studyform will be on in a minute to call you names :)

Oct 28, 2018 -- 9:42PM, annie. wrote:

This accident seems mysterious to me.

Get yourself on youtube for conspiracy theories

One thinks its a remote controlled helicopter toy that's been crashed on purpose with no one inside it

Where's Terry? He'd normally be all over this telling us the helicopter (containing someone who knew the truth about 9/11) was brought down on orders of the illuminutty by a combination of chemtrails and G5 death rays :)

RIP to all those who died , awful tragedy may they rest in peace

The owner of Leicester City FC died when his helicopter crashed outside the stadium, the club has confirmed.

Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, two members of his staff, the pilot and a female passenger died when the aircraft crashed at about 20:30 BST on Saturday.

Thousands of bouquets and scarves have already been left outside the ground.



In a statement, Leicester City FC said the club's thoughts were with "the Srivaddhanaprabha family and the families of all those on-board at this time of unspeakable loss"

The club added: "In Khun Vichai, the world has lost a great man. A man of kindness, of generosity and a man whose life was defined by the love he devoted to his family and those he so successfully led.

"Leicester City was a family under his leadership. It is as a family that we will grieve his passing and maintain the pursuit of a vision for the Ccub that is now his legacy."

Matthew Harding, Colin Mcrae are two that spring to mind in the sports world. And Frankie and Richard Cochrane were lucky to survive.

Horrible things.

Ray Cochrane was also fortunate think Frankies' paid him back for saving his life in earning percentages over the years.

thought frankie small plane ?

Cheers Capt_F didnt get many facts right on that one, but the similarities to Matthew Harding are frightening. He was also revered by the fans. And Colin Mcrae was a national hero.

Oct 29, 2018 -- 12:47AM, Capt__F wrote:

thought frankie small plane ?

Aye spot on

Oct 29, 2018 -- 1:13AM, doantwin2easy wrote:

Cheers Capt_F didnt get many facts right on that one, but the similarities to Matthew Harding are frightening. He was also revered by the fans. And Colin Mcrae was a national hero.

Colin McRae wasn't legal to be doing what he was doing.  As great a rally driver as he was, he killed himself and three innocents (two of them young children), by being a dick.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6331223/BBC-Sport-Editor-Dan-Roan-slammed-fans-claiming-beauty-queen-billionaires-MISTRESS.html

Haven't seen scumbag Lord Sugar apologising for tweeting that the owners sister had been on board the helicopter !!!

Spose, the fact is she was his mistress. Just insensitive / rude to say so.. 

Not the correct moment regardless given the incident. Wholly disrespectful and unprofessional to be opining or voicing a private thought/belief next to the dead man's memorial; the tragic event is still very raw!

A Fatal Accident Inquiry into the incident concluded, on 6 September 2011, that McRae was at fault for the avoidable helicopter crash that led to his death and the death of his passengers.[43] Sheriff Nikola Stewart stated, after the 16-day inquiry, that McRae had been engaged in "unnecessary and unsafe" low-level flying at the time of the crash.[44][45][46]

Sheriff Stewart concluded that the accident might have been avoided if McRae had not flown into the Mouse Valley. For a private pilot such as McRae, without enough experience, low-level flying in that terrain was very imprudent.[46]

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My mate reckons the Leicester helicopter collided with a drone. This true?

Have any of you been near, operated with or  in or even flown in a bag of nails???

Oct 31, 2018 -- 9:45PM, Steve Voltage wrote:

My mate reckons the Leicester helicopter collided with a drone. This true?

The police confirmed their one was on the ground but the possibility another one may have been in the area was a potential line of inquiry.

Personally, I think all of the stuff flying around in the video the Sun has got hold of is just bugs/leaves and none of it is within a country mile of the helicopter.

Some newspaper front page headlines were describing the pilot as a hero. I guess saying he steered away from people on the ground ?  From the video it doesn't look like he has any control to steer anywhere

Given how violently it spun, he wouldn't have had any control over where it was pointing, but he would likely have tried to get it down ASAP (by dropping the collective).  Without looking at a map, I've no idea how bad it could have got if he'd left the confines of the ground?

The helicopter crash that killed Leicester City's billionaire owner and four others was caused by the tail rotor breaking off in mid-air, a senior crash investigator said today.

New footage appears to show large pieces or even the entire tail rotor may have come off before the helicopter fell into a 'dead man's curve'.


The take off looked normal but as it hovered above the stadium you can see pieces falling away. It looks like it was from the rear rotor blade,' he said.

'The spinning around five seconds later is consistent with a tail rotor breaking off. There are lots of pieces flying around. If you lose a large proportion of the blade you get a very large imbalance and pull the whole tail rotor off the aircraft'.

How the hell did he ever get permission to be allowed to land on the pitch?

The risks are obvious is this seems like a case of money talks. Does this mean that anyone who owns a helicopter and lives in the middle of a city and has the room to land/takeoff can do so?

Do other football chairman do this?

The Leicester Royal Infirmary is very close to the King Power but helicopters do not land there even with emergency cases.

Don't be silly Steve.

I've only seen the blurred vid and can't see any "bits" but that most certainly is a rear rotor failure.

Could a drone have hit it?

Nov 1, 2018 -- 12:23AM, tictacman1 wrote:

The helicopter crash that killed Leicester City's billionaire owner and four others was caused by the tail rotor breaking off in mid-air, a senior crash investigator said today.New footage appears to show large pieces or even the entire tail rotor may have come off before the helicopter fell into a 'dead man's curve'.The take off looked normal but as it hovered above the stadium you can see pieces falling away. It looks like it was from the rear rotor blade,' he said.'The spinning around five seconds later is consistent with a tail rotor breaking off. There are lots of pieces flying around. If you lose a large proportion of the blade you get a very large imbalance and pull the whole tail rotor off the aircraft'.

The former (Sky seem to have left that bit out) senior crash investigator clearly hasn't seen the pictures of the wreckage showing at least 1.75 of the 3 tail rotor blades still in situ! 

Steve - It's far less dangerous than most of the spots we're all quite happy for air ambulances to land....  The odds of a tail rotor failure are miniscule (yet it seemingly still happened) and you cannot take ALL risk out of flying whilst still continuing to do it.  You can't legislate for everything.

The Nottingham/Leicester heliport is located approx 10 miles from Leicester in a remote area off the A46. It is in a remote location for a reason. Seems odd that permission was ever granted to allow the King Power as a regular takeoff/landing zone.

I will respectfully agree to disagree.

Check out where Battersea Heliport is in London.

Where does the US President's helicopter land? Some distance from The White Horse or next to it?

The south lawn provides space for the Presidents helicopter, Marine One, to land directly on the White House grounds.

The helicopter will take off and land in the grassy area directly south of the main residence.

Thanks. It's just that it had been suggested the Leicester City helicopter had an unusually difficult take-off manoeuvre to execute ie upright take-off, until clearing the stadium, and this could have put enormous stress on the engine and rotor blades contributing to the accident.

It's actually a backwards climbing take-off, rather than 'upright'.  I had the opportunity to fly with the Met Police Air Support Unit a few years ago now, and this was the departure method employed by them, rather than a straight vertical climb-out, as it gives the opportunity to land back on the spot you've just lifted from in the event or engine failure or rejecting the take-off for other reasons. 

Chat about additional stress is BS, IMHO.

* the end of paragraph 1 above obviously assumes directional control has not been lost.

Do helicopters not need forward momentum after reaching a certain height?

Yes, but, that is achieved by pitching the nose down.

Ah ok.

Wondering if there's any possibility that the co-pilot was in control at the time...

Highly unlikely, since she was not a qualified rotary-wing pilot.  The AW169 (the type in question) is certified for single-pilot operations, so she was likely just there to keep the pilot company, possibly to operate the radios, keep a lookout etc.

they were a couple werent they so would make sense.

That's right, yeah.