In court tomorrow,10am,not paying for tv license

JC is right, you need a license to watch any LIVE TV and even catch up TV on BBC IPlayer.

Tell them you only watch dvds and VHS tapes through your tv, they can`t prove otherwise, unless you are viewing through a smart TV connected to the internet or a Satellite dish. If you watch LIVE TV via the two mentioned methods, get a friend to bake you a cake with a file in it.

Get a friend with a time machine to go into the future and send you RECORDED DVDs back of todays TV.

corrupt file

I haven't paid the license fee for years . Nor do I possess a TV . I have received over 100 threatening letters and warning notices since January 2016 .
I have been advised to take legal action for harassment by claiming that I am suffering from stress related anxiety and depression as a direct result of their postal bombardment .

You seem well tuned in to me.

.... how much are you after?

you surely use alot of BBC services - just pay it, its one of the best things about being British

My solicitors eyes lit up when I said I'd kept every letter received . Apparently without the actual letters as evidence they deny sending more than one

its one of the best things about being British

How would I be expected to know that ?

Nowt wrong Reynard with the French. I would bet you were once in the Foreign Legion - just a hunch.

Notre damm

I'm not European

why would you want to sue the BBC - its a public organisation - you'd be taking money off everyone you know?

I know.....nothing

Mr faulty

the real value of the BBC is seen when there's a major incident - without the BBC would you watch Sky News? - BBc is globally recognised as a fantastic organisation, it's a worldwide source of news and current affairs

Saville

FatherMaguire • October 18, 2018 12:30 AM BST
why would you want to sue the BBC - its a public organisation - you'd be taking money off everyone you know?

And nor am I Cliff ****'n Richard !!!!

If you only use Amazon, netflix etc, you can own a TV and not pay a license.

But it's not just a TV that counts for watching Live TV, if you watching TV on any device, laptop or phone included, they expect you to pay a license.

Basically, if you phone up and claim you do not watch live TV and only watch say netflix, they will cancel your license, from there on in it's up to simply not get caught

Try it, they will cancel it if you claim there's no live tv being wathed.

But the thing with the BBC is, if there were stripped of forcing people to pay for a TV license, you'd still be paying one to the governemtn, like many other countries do, how much that would be though, I don't know.

"I would willingly sell my house and all its contents to help the BBC."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lzS8yW8INA

Arrived at court 10 minutes late (no where to park) got a bo11ocking from the clerk for being late, 16 people in court for the same offence ,me a young girl with 3 screaming kids and 14 foreigners,.filed in a means test form, ....eventually had my cause at 2.25pm ...I was unable to state any case (tried but as soon as I spoke ,I was told that I was intempt of court) anyway to cut a long story short got fined 10% of my monthly earnings £175 .plus £65 court costs,

I think you wanted to go to jail so that you could watch the telly legally.

That was bravado,when I posted that ,I,d had a few ,and in a bad mood

Have you been rehabilitated by the process, ie do you now have a licence?

No .... but I was told at court next time I appear it will be £1000 fine....I think this is one I’ve lost ......

I got a pad with mobdro, dont need a license for that do you ?

Oct 18, 2018 -- 10:10PM, conditor wrote:

Arrived at court 10 minutes late (no where to park) got a bo11ocking from the clerk for being late, 16 people in court for the same offence ,me a young girl with 3 screaming kids  and 14 foreigners,.filed in a means test form, ....eventually had my cause at 2.25pm ...I was unable to state any case (tried but as soon as I spoke ,I was told that I was intempt of court) anyway to cut a long story short got fined 10% of my monthly earnings £175 .plus £65 court costs,

The cost of going to prison to the UK will massively outweigh the license fee.

And if you are open minded, might improve your sex life!

Worth considering?

One thing that JC missed out in his recommendation for going to jail is that you will see the full and majestic benefits of
multi-culturism.

I saw plenty of it today 14 people paying 10% of thier monthly benefits , about £40 ,chances of gov receiving that is 0

Definition of 'foreign' ?

I assume you mean 'not local to the area' ?

We should start a fundraising page for conditor

Don’t need charity bud, maybe a kick up the @rse every now and then, for thinking I can beat the system

If the foreigners won't pay their £40 why should you pay you're £175 + costs?

I'm sure it is deducted from benefits no?

Asking a right winger to pay the TV Tax is like asking a left winger to pay for the Daily Mail

There'd be riots!

ive only got about 20 days left on my tv license and was gonna just not pay it this time and see what happens, this thread has kinda put me off tho

If you really resent paying the TV license, if they pay you a visit, simply start filming them on your phone and tell them you're going to put it on youtube, they'll soon leave promptly and/or become less assertive, I would guess most of these people do not tell their friends what it is they do for a living, let alone wanting to be filmed doing it whilst being put online forever for everyone to see.

I think you miss the point bud , the courts ,ie our justice system depicts I am criminal (because I won’t or don’t pay for something I don’t believe in)the BBC introduce advertising with out it being obvious,and try to put themselves right over past failings,whilst the same people ride on the gravey train, making substandard programs , black, ****,women or anti trump ,seems the norm with em ,as I said trying to put right past failings

I’m not sexist or racist

And before anyone says Attenbourgh makes gr8 programs, I agreed ,(things we should all know about anyway) but no strictly this ,get your lottery ticket ,help the refugees,,thiers plenty of food ,water to go around ,democracy,no it’s dictatorship, work 5 days a week earn your money ,buy a big house , and car get into debt, enjoy a pizza at the weekend ,back to work Monday,


Opps where did that come from ,another rant over

Costa coffee £6.30 ,dominos pizza £19 , Nescafé £3 a jar Sainsbury pizza £3.20 , no plastic cup or box, , now I’ve really lost the plot

Sainsbury's do good pizzas

For £3.20 chap thier gr8 go every sat for one , my treat after losing on the nags

i was taken to court for this same thing,,  just asked me if i had anything to say in my defence,, so i asked the just if i could ask him aquestion, he said yes sure mr smith,,  i asked have you got a licence sir,, he replied case dismissed,,

judge

you did well every time I opened my mouth I was in contempt

31 people booked in to court 16 turned up,what happens to the other 15?

I wonder how many people are prosecuted in Stepney ? where the amount of Pakistani and Bangladeshi people are 90% of the local population,
where people have names which doesn't distinguish whether they are male or female, and many have the same names,and can't or won't speak English !! can't imagine the authorities having the man power to nick anyone in that area, or wanting to upset the local community

I got done in Scotland for insulting the TV licence inspector.

He asked me if I didn't have a licence, what the TV was for?

I replied you tube.

A long time coming crisp, expected better

One day in court and he thinks he's a judge....

It’s all Greek to me

See that plane it’s way over

And another thing ... Blind people get a 50% discount (and quite rightly too, as they're only accessing 50% of the product). So why do deaf people have to pay the full whack?

It’s that true?

Smash ya telly up that will teach em...

Don’t have telly misses smashed it when I did wrong only iPad a comupter

Got her a pizza from Sainsbury’s and not dominos

deaf people can switch the subtitles on?

I agree not quite the same though.

Oct 19, 2018 -- 3:23PM, cardenden wrote:

i was taken to court for this same thing,,

cardenden • October 19, 2018 3:23 PM BST
i was taken to court for this same thing,,  just asked me if i had anything to say in my defence,, so i asked the just if i could ask him aquestion, he said yes sure mr smith,,  i asked have you got a licence sir,, he replied case dismissed,,

obvious lie

Scandi: You could argue that blind people have the benefit of Audio Description.

And anyway, subtitles are not much help when half of BBC4's output seems to be re-runs of Top Of The Pops and The Old Grey Whistle Test. There's only so many times that the sight of Bryan Ferry, Brian bloody Eno and Whispering Bob Harris are entertaining, when they're accompanied by

(INSTRUMENTAL) "What's her name for chin? You're plain" (APPLAUSE) (INAUDIBLE)

And subtitles are literally worse than silence for anything live or recorded within the last couple of days (news, sport, etc.). It's not just that they're indecipherable; they're also several seconds out of synch, making lip-reading impossible.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not arguing that blind people shouldn't have the discount. I'm just saying that if the TV licence is supposed to be a payment for services received, then those of us who aren't receiving the whole service shouldn't have to pay for a whole licence. Otherwise it just confirms that it's not a payment for a service, but rather a feudal tax.

yeah fair enough, should be completely free for deaf or blind anyway imo.

I just think the whole idea of a licence is something from another era. The idea of a country's judiciary having the right to grant or withhold permission to own a television set would never fly now, if you tried to introduce it from scratch, any more than the idea of fining citizens who don't wish to pay for a vast broadcasting network. And David Attenborough really isn't enough to justify it, even if he weren't such a smug, ignorant git.

a young girl with 3 screaming kids and 14 foreigners,.

Would be interesting to see the outcome of those cases.....

That’s a bit strong chap ,smug, ignorant he don’t strike me as that sort,old fashioned, blinkered maybe,..... tv licensing is a bit like the old pole tax,or today’s council tax ,no one wants to pay it , think is one one willing to stand up against it in case the sheep vilified em, people think today’s council taxes go towards ,bin collections,and the services, not at all it goes to pay the interest on the loans that governments borrow from banks,of which theses money’s dont exist, it’s all a f00king racket

Council tax only covers a fraction of local government spending, the government then has to give a big chunk of money to make up the difference.

A huge chunk of total council spending will go towards cushy final salary pension schemes they set up that weren't costed at all properly and have a HUGE amount needing to be contributed to them.

The young girl was asked to leave the court because the young girls were upset (understandably)sat thier until 1.30. Judges went for lunch!,her case was adjourned until December 3rd I believe

Young girls as in the kids ,twins at 3 one at 5 I guess, she looked about 19, I really did feel for her.

sorry you got stung Conditor, but I gebuinely believe theBBC enriches our country - it is the envy of the world, and we are all in it together

bit lishpy

License fee should be optional, i.e. BBC should be subscription based, it's ridiculous that so many pay money to the BBC when so many do not watch it, they know full well it's ridiculous as well, the bigwigs at the top of the chain probably have those types of conversations in the pub after work that go along the lines of "how much longer do you think we can get away with this archaic tax" wouldn't be surprised if they have side wages on when it'll finally be done away with lol.

It's basically another tax on the poor, would be a vote winner if they removed it, though they would have to completely remove it for that to happen rather than have it paid to them.

Btw, who cares what the rest of the world think about the BBC - they don't have to pay the license and can watch iplayer/bbc shows when they like for £0.00.

How many good shows have they actually got, Strictly come dancing is for old people, blue planet/planet earth are good shows, probably their best, but I can live without it, plenty of good wildlife documentaries on Youtube for free.

just realised most chit chatter are of a certain age, no offence..."it's for mature people"

Granted

Strictly? I'd have thought that was a viewing must for the likes of you Scandi given your love of I'm a Celebrity and the X Factor.

If you don't pay your licence fee Gary lineker will have to live on cheese and onion crisps.

you're confusing me with someone else aka, never watch those shows.

Taxes in a society are a necessary evil.
Lots of things get taxed.
However “pole tax”? I don’t remember that one. Was it from mediaeval times?
They used to have taxes on chimneys and windows but poles? No wonder people got shirty over that one.

The Pole tax was never implemented, it was a UKIP idea to get eastern europeans to go home .

The problem with the BBC isn't that it's a simple broadcaster, presenting the news or documentaries, it feels clearly (and has pretty much stated this in writing) that it is there to do social engineering, and push society towards what it believes, in it's leftie snowflakey "progressive" way, is correct behaviour.

Maybe they BBC scould start making TVs with a water spritzer that says "bad human" if it detects you watching another channel or surfing a website that has a non PC thought or speech on it?

I'm surprised the interview between emily maitlis (one reason I never watch newsnight now) and the Hungarian minister didn't go more viral, where she is just sickeningly leftie and obviously totally disgusted that they DARE not open their borders to mass immigration from the 3rd world, as she consantly tries to say this makes them far right nazis. The full interview is up but there is a disection of it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT-P1zQBiWk

I find the way the BBC treats Hungary a brilliant example of their bias. All through the "migrant crisis" the BBC was hugely for "just let them all in and anyone against it supports Hitler". There could be a boat of 10,000 young fit pushy males, all on the make to get a better job in Europe (or worse..), and the BBC would find the 1 snot nosed kid on it and try to pull the heart strings. And we're forced to pay these pr1cks.

Theb there was e.g. that incident where a migrant was being stopped by the police from entering and shouted a load of things and then grabbed his struggling wife and dragged both of them down to the ground as a sort of lie down protest, and the Police stood over them, and the BBC edited the incident to make it look like the Hungarian Police had somehow just brutalised them.  Just one example.

Yes, of course, the bbc is appalling. It’s attempts at social engineering are so lacking in subtlety. The over promotion of minorities is embarrassing ... women in sport in particular.
And yet bbc programs hammer everything in ratings. Soaps excepted I dare say.
I think the chapter extends a few years yet.
For any change we would be relying on MP’s to implement it and I would guess they prefer the devil they know.

Chapter= charter. Autocorrect?

jc do you ever stop moaning

The licence fee is archaic,if the output was as good as its advocates suggest then the bbc would have nothing to fear from going to a subscription based service they might even increase their revenue.that they darent do it tells us all we need to know.

the real value of the BBC is seen when there's a major incident - without the BBC would you watch Sky News? - BBc is globally recognised as a fantastic organisation, it's a worldwide source of news and current affairs

I would quite happily watch a plethora of channels.

The BBC might well produce a good service but its arrogant attitude towards its customers in today's world, is just the legacy of a slumbering national relic. The government happily outsources and privatises everything else. Why shouldn't the BBC compete naturally and commercially with its competitors?

TV lends itself to the commercial model. Almost every successful, large scale company within broadcasting in the modern era, has built itself on advertising. Youtube, Google etc.

It's pathetic that they force people to buy a license, in a broadcasting world of ever increasing choice. It's literally just a license to print, which is the standard model when it comes to any consumer interaction with Governmemt bodies that generally rubber stamp what we all need to go about our business, at our cost, for fun.

I cant believe anyone pays the tv license let alone goes to court to contest it. For one thing, you don't need a license if you have a tv, it could be sitting in the corner of the room as a flower pot for all the court or " investigation officer " knows. You have no legal requirement to tell any tv license goon  details or let them in so how would they prove you were even watching it anyway... of all jobs a tv license officer has to be the saddest job title around. I have a " friend" who hasnt paid a tv license in 20 years - a tv goon comes around, " who are you " I dont have to legally say"- " Do you own a tv" , the reply is none of your business so it's referred back to central offices. The fact the OP has acknowledged the offence by even turning up to court is an admission of guilt essentially in the eyes of the authorities.

Without doubt the license fee is an inappropriate way of funding nowadays.
I suppose when there was only the bbc it was about right.
Be interesting to know how many of the refuseniks also avoid road tax and car insurance, council tax and income tax.

Oct 23, 2018 -- 9:46AM, wolf3011 wrote:

I cant believe anyone pays the tv license let alone goes to court to contest it. For one thing, you don't need a license if you have a tv, it could be sitting in the corner of the room as a flower pot for all the court or " investigation officer " knows. You have no legal requirement to tell any tv license goon

double spaced

coridor your my hero

I got 15 letters

then bbc guy came to my door with two others

asked me if I watched BBC

I said I tried my best not to when surfing channels

conditor

did they ask to see your tv? and did anything else happen after u spoke to them?

Going back to wolfs post, I agree 100%, the problem is I believe (or did ) in the justice system ,respect the law and police ,...but now it’s turning me racist,, “ I no speak English ,no problem you pay £40 out of your benefit,we will deduct £1 per week,  but you must pay for your tv licence,...... as if...fine them £1000 next time di t think so

The best thing to do is reply " I have a tv " at the door , let them continue on for a few minutes about how you need a tv license and then say "but I dont turn the tv on … farewell d*ckhead" closing the door firmly as they stand there open mouthed looking gormlessly at their license renewal notice.