is the UK and Ireland heading for meltdowns?

Get a grip and talk some sense. If I  was Irish I'd be more worried about their promise to double the population in a few years, especially as to where the imports will come from.

no internet,no banks,no transport,no work,stop panicing its called northern England under the torys for the last 8 years and its ok, need any help just ask northern country folk for some advice ,


on the plus side no Cameron,no Osbourne,no boris and hopefully by the end of the month no may

I'm allright.  I have a garage full of bully beef and cans of beer.

UK heading for a split, Ireland heading for unification.

EU will not move on the Irish issue - or any other issue of significance if it involves bending their rigid rules. They are unimaginatively locked into their own rigid routine and can only see danger to their inviolable master plan if they are seen to be flexible to a betrayer of their faith. Their only hope for continuance of their project is to keep the sometimes restless flock quiet - by fair means or foul. And their refusal to contemplate reform or any change in the past remains their stubborn policy today even with growing unrest within the remaining membership. Continuing to ignore this pressure or suppressing it could eventually be their undoing. Time will tell.

Are their any businessmen involved on either side  negotiating any of this ?

If all goes wrong I'll claim asylum in Germany...simples

The germans own british rail"we want our trains back"

Europe own the internet domain"go buy your internet of the russians"we want our internet back"

ok betfair you can move to ireland

anyone under 40 years of age will have to join the army to protect the uk borders against the 10 million turks that are on the way.
600 thousand new posts will be ordered under transcription see the army lawyer if you have a problem
IT MUST STOP SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING QUICKLY.

Don't forget WW3. We were promised that at least

There is a lot of things that governments don't tell the public in the national interest.Things like if you walk away from Europe no country outside Europe will be allowed to trade with the UK under world trade law.

you are spot on there brass

bmw and the rest will stop selling cars to the uk

jags facing a boom time

and somerset brie

thanks moisok All i am doing is offering my opinion ,and i really feel bad about a No deal,it really could be very bad.
its like placing a ships anchor round a child's neck and telling them to walk for 20 years with the anchor strapped  to them and in 20 years time you will feel great when the anchor comes back off.The UK people need to stand up to the MP'S on all sides and all say enough is enough with their in house filibustering and get together and strike a deal that is good for the UK and Europe and stop looking for party power.

The only deal that is good for us is to walk away and keep the 38 billion they want, it won't be long before they need it. Two countries will be paying to subsidise 25 others soon.

I've just turned my watch back 300 years but it still says 8 o'clock. What's going on?

And one more point then i will give my views a rest.i think that the Queen herself has the power herself to dissolve parliament ,so if the UK government can not get the problem sorted out the people can march to buckingham palace and request her to sack all the MP'S in one stroke of a pen,and should a million people march to the palace this could happen.
even the idea of this might shake up all the parties in westminster parliament when they all realise that their jobs may be on the line

time to light the gas light or candles.

God bless King George.

We were ruled by a German back then. Plus ca change.

I don't why see the EU is concerned? N.Ireland will effectively be outside the EU?

Eire will have concerns they fear a hard border will affect business in the South.

It seems to me it is just another EU ploy to stop us leaving.


We cannot allow just anybody to infiltrate this country through Southern Ireland, that is obvious.


It is ok for people who already in Eire, but not people who come from the ret of the EU, it is not on!

No deal will be hairy for a while, but if necessary we must do it.

Look how much the German's sell to us for  start?

I like a Bratwurst every now and then..........

If the EU insist on a hard border who will operate it.
The EU? Doubt it. The UK? Why would we? The ROI? Would they let the EU force this on them?
All a nonsense, a solution will be found with the EU and the ROI backtracking on everything they threw up as an obstacle.

the main problem is the boat people,when they arrive in europe to go to the UK,Europe will not stop them passing through their countries,in fact they will direct them to the nearest exit,out into the atlantic ocean and give them food and water and tell them ,just follow any english boat with a union jack they will show you the way its the country on the right hand side.

I take it these people carried their boats through these countries brassie?

the real way to solve the problem is for ireland to say they are leaving also and then a deal will be done.but when the MP'S AT THE MOMENT don't care ,its not fair for the UK people who will lose their jobs and suffer famine for many years to come.
Ireland on the other hand will get their begging bowl filled by Europe to comfort the blow of famine.
but its going to be very very bad if the people of the UK do not rise up and tell the MP'S to sort it out and stop playing political games with their future.

Fitzcarraldo stylie 

Well brassie assuming you are right they'll be nothing to stop the people of the UK travelling to the ROI to eat out of their begging bowl.

there will be many many Europeans willing to sail a boat to The UK at 500 quid a ticket,sneaking into small bays in the dead of night and i am only talking about the africans ,up top of the uk you will have 10 million turks buying tickets at 500 quid a time to be dropped off in east of scotland.
And what will the UK do when they catch a ship with 5000 people on board 10 mile from southampton,they cant send them back to France,or Spain.

ireland will still be able to trade with Europe ,but will be banned from trading with the UK if there is a NO DEAL.
ALL these things will unfold only if there is a no deal,and deal will do but a no deal is the greatest catastrophe of all time,it will be worse than war time and the ration books will be out again.

There will be plenty of room for them as we'll all be in the ROI.
You might just have solved the immigration problem Brassie.

I am ok - I have stockpiled the bully beef and crates of beer
with a garage full - I see big profits ahead when we are cut off.

I have blankets for the windows and in west london we are setting up a local defence volunteers detachment

only joking  - we have Boris !!!!

If you can't change what happens, don't worry about it brassie. The plan to double your population quickly could be hindered or stopped by voters, but are they bothered? I had a young lass from Galway here a couple of weeks ago and she hadn't even heard of the 2040 plan.

i have a plan for 2040.but on the 1st of january 2040 i will announce that the 2040 plan will be put back 10 more years because i had a no deal brexit in 2019

if the Queen threatens to  sacks all MP'S and to call a general election they wont be long sorting it out.

brassneck    15 Oct 18 22:29 
ireland will still be able to trade with Europe ,but will be banned from trading with the UK if there is a NO DEAL.

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By who? Presumably the UK? Which means UK wont be able to trade with Ireland or anyone in the EU. All for one and one for all - thats how the EU works. So you might want to think that one out again.

And who might benefit? Ireland, no doubt - by taking up much of trade we would no longer be allowed to do with EU.

(Discovered all of this in Ireland, when Rees-Mogg said UK would stop buying Irish beef - they could hardly stop laughing as it is a miniscule part of their economy and the consequences for us would be bigger!).

I think that, like Jacob, Brassie was jesting.

under trade laws any country that breaks a trade agreement will be banished from trading for 7 years(7 year contract) with 166 countries world wide.Should the UK break their trade deal with the EU(no deal) sanctions will be placed on the country who try to trade with them,Russia, China,and Angola are not members of the 166 countries(china and russia are half members)and Lybia is the other country who do not agree with the 7 year suspension .
the united states has already warned the UK of the dangers of a no deal and Donald has told Theresa that he will trade with the UK in 7 years time ,Canada has also agreed a 7 year time frame with the UK.Russia would be the best chance for the UK to get a possible deal in trade if the UK walk away with a no deal situation but within 3 years everyone in the UK would be wearing Kossac hats drinking Vodka and mingling with their new turk friends as part of the trade agreement.

You do like frighten us Brassneck…

We can do deal with the EU, but if it also involves us accepting immigration

then we might as well have not voted for Brexit????

That will betray DEMOCRACY!

ps
What we say on here is not going to affect what happens anyway, just as well.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-news-andrew-bridgen-bbc-5live-irish-border/

I do believe a last minute deal will be pulled out of the hat. Strongly suspect Teresa May wants to get beyond the budget in 2 weeks as she'll need DUP support for that. This story was not largely reported in the UK media. Bridgen has form not knowing what he is talking about when it comes to Ireland.

Anyone else here think they can just get an Irish passport because they are British? Just curious. Serious question.

The Ireland 2040 plan as laid out by the SJW who is now their PM is cultural suicide. If they let that maniac proceed with that, I want a hard border with Ireland anyway, that tool wants turn it into an open border with the third world. F.O.

Varadkar? SJW? He's most likely closest to home in the Tories. Jesus. It is true. People in the UK, when it comes to Ireland are utterly and completely clueless.

As for the 2040 plan, it is probably the first time there has even been a comprehensive approach to national infrastructure. They'll only come in numbers though if there are jobs together with growth. Returning Irish, UK nationals wanting to retire and eastern Europeans mostly.

https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/house-sales-to-uk-buyers-climb-as-brexit-refugees-outbid-irishbased-homebuyers-37419711.html

Oct 16, 2018 -- 12:06AM, brassneck wrote:

under trade laws any country that breaks a trade agreement will be banished from trading for 7 years(7 year contract) with 166 countries world wide.Should the UK break their trade deal with the EU(no deal) sanctions will be placed on the country who try to trade with them,Russia, China,and Angola are not members of the 166 countries(china and russia are half members)and Lybia is the other country who do not agree with the 7 year suspension .the united states has already warned the UK of the dangers of a no deal and Donald has told Theresa that he will trade with the UK in 7 years time ,Canada has also agreed a 7 year time frame with the UK.Russia would be the best chance for the UK to get a possible deal in trade if the UK walk away with a no deal situation but within 3 years everyone in the UK would be wearing Kossac hats drinking Vodka and mingling with their new turk friends as part of the trade agreement.

utter drivel

Behave yourself Brassie, everybody knows that talking drivel is daves domain.

The Grammar Nazis are going to melt down when they read that subject line

Is they?

Yip, their blood vessels will be bursted!

dave knows everything,a bookie should hang dave on the wall of his office and he would not need to buy the racing post ,customers could just ask dave

Ireland will do alright.
We will be in the European Union.

Oct 17, 2018 -- 9:14AM, kincsem wrote:

Ireland will do alright.We will be in the European Union.

Best hope that Brexit distracts your masters in Brussels long enough to stop them investigating your giveaway corporate tax rate (your strongest economic trump card).

Oh and being in the Euro, you'll take bath on the Greek debt crisis, conveniently kicked down the road for a while until....