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tobermory
10 Oct 18 01:39
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The Army is investigating after far-right activist Tommy Robinson posted a photo of himself surrounded by a group of young soldiers. The former English Defence League leader also put a video of the scene on Facebook, in which the men could be heard cheering and shouting his name. The Army said it was aware of the posts and "investigating the circumstances".

A spokeswoman said: "Far-right ideology is completely at odds with the values and ethos of the armed forces."

She added: "The armed forces have robust measures in place to ensure those exhibiting extremist views are neither tolerated nor permitted to serve."

The photograph and video appear to have been taken outside a motorway service area and Mr Robinson described the group as "young recruits". Mr Robinson wrote on Facebook: "A moment like this makes it all worth while. Today I met real British heroes (sic)."

Responding to news of the investigation, Mr Robinson said in a video post that he had met the soldiers "by chance" and they should not be "left hung out to dry" for having their photo taken with him.

Imam Asim Hafiz, Islamic religious adviser to the armed forces, said "any form of racism, discrimination or extremism is taken extremely seriously and will be dealt with accordingly".
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Report UBLE/REGY October 13, 2018 6:55 PM BST
saddo
13 Oct 18 13:28
Joined: 04 Dec 05 | Topic/replies: 35,224 | Blogger: saddo's blog
So is bestiality, them sheep will be demanding civil union soon


You are right there Saddo
I did not like to mention it


secual equality for sheep and their molesters
Report UBLE/REGY October 13, 2018 6:55 PM BST
Laugh
Report layemall October 13, 2018 7:46 PM BST
You on the night-shift at Betfair forum with a remit of deflecting anything slightly contentious?!!........see that you haven't been too active over the last 8 years!!Wink
Report 1st time poster October 13, 2018 8:04 PM BST
WHAT ever your opinions on tommy R,one thing shines outr brightly over the last few weeks,sky with millions of subscribersbroadcasting 24 hrs a day have been banging on about their petition for election debates for over 3 weeks now and are currently bragging about having 35,000 signatures in their quest for a 100,000,yet in days the two robinson petitions got 260,000 and now 150,000, seems tommy,s getting ratings sky news could only dream of

first they take your pictures, then they take your books,then they take your '''''', Wink
Report moisok October 13, 2018 8:14 PM BST
We have to fight the heteronormative structure.  Who is with me --- CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!!!!!!!!!!!!Excited
Report moisok October 13, 2018 8:16 PM BST
and the heteronormative culture -
Report moisok October 13, 2018 8:18 PM BST
just loosen up guys - tell the army hierarchy while you are at it
Report layemall October 13, 2018 8:23 PM BST
ffs....why keep on banging the gay drum?, in an effort to convince everyone it is quite normal, like the majority in your camp do,(like any minority group).......just get on with your life/lives .....and if it was the "norm".......then maybe we wouldn't have a planet population issue.....which would be a positive at least !!
Report moisok October 13, 2018 8:28 PM BST
the bbc will have you lined up for starters laye  - I simply cannot see why they cannot leave us alone instead of politicising it and forcing it down youngster throats at school as well as every news out let going.
I dislike being told what is right or wrong for me as a person.
It is all about rewriting history, ideology, language - mind control etc etc etc  until you are dizzy from the assault coming from all directions.
Report moisok October 13, 2018 8:32 PM BST
the bbc have a huge over representation of bame/lgbt  yet they are proceeding with even more right thought rules and propaganda - soon you won't even be able to say a word of protest on the channel.  Let alone be allowed to appear on it
Don't forget to exclude 'man' from the word woman when discussing these subjects.
I have spare dresses if anyone wants oneExcited
Report layemall October 13, 2018 8:45 PM BST
They don't because members of yours and other so called minority groups always keep pushing for more and more rights/recognition under the umbrella of "human rights".....leading to a situation where they are "positively discriminated against!" by organisations across the spectrum in order to be seen as politically correct and ticking the right boxes.
Meritocracy is but a hopeless dream for most.
Report moisok October 13, 2018 8:54 PM BST
don't I know and I am sick of it and how they are using it

most of us just want to be left alone and get on with our lives but these small numbers of people are wagging the dog (as I keep pointing out) 
They are minority groups but don't recognise the fact and are abusing their position.

You will see most of my posts are against what they are doing.  Even very well known and respected feminists are under attack from the weaponisers.
Report moisok October 13, 2018 8:55 PM BST
check out the latest fight against heteronormative culture from the bbc
Report layemall October 13, 2018 9:20 PM BST
that's refreshing to hear.......keep banging that particular drum and spreading the word mate....
Report UBLE/REGY October 13, 2018 11:08 PM BST
layemall
13 Oct 18 19:46
Joined: 12 Apr 06 | Topic/replies: 399 | Blogger: layemall's blog
You on the night-shift at Betfair forum with a remit of deflecting anything slightly contentious?!!........see that you haven't been too active over the last 8 years!!



That is because I am more contentious than you think, though not necessarily on this forum, I was banned.

I was always a late night poster..some people believed I was a Hedgehog!


Most arguments have two sides.....I try to look at ways of moving forwards, seems more intelligent.


No one is obliged to agree with me...I believe in free speech.


All the best to you LayemallHappy
Report layemall October 14, 2018 12:12 AM BST
what you banned for?
Report layemall October 14, 2018 12:14 AM BST
you too btw
Report UBLE/REGY October 14, 2018 12:11 PM BST
For saying something I should not have, easily done if one gets involved in heated discussions
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 14, 2018 4:57 PM BST
Interesting video.

.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGRzRL3241E
Report Injera October 14, 2018 5:20 PM BST
Thanks IS. Wow - what a lady!! Love
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 14, 2018 9:28 PM BST
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3MxFubVXG8
Report moisok October 14, 2018 9:45 PM BST
who would have thought it

closing you down wherever they can
Report scaredmoney October 14, 2018 9:53 PM BST
words fkin fail me  Sad
Report Reynard October 14, 2018 9:54 PM BST
Surely this cannot be authentic ? Army Major using 17 'F-words' and 2 'C-words' in the space of 4 minutes ? Sounds more like a right wing thug to me Mischief
Report scaredmoney October 14, 2018 10:23 PM BST
i dont think your far off the money there reynard....surely
Report moisok October 14, 2018 11:01 PM BST
well it is the army

now in the navy we would never use such crewed language

see wot I done their!!?
Report Reynard October 15, 2018 12:16 AM BST
Always helps to see both sides of any argument .
Here is somebody who doesn't like Tommy .......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDULdxZN5wY
Report 1st time poster October 15, 2018 2:37 PM BST
another week and sky news have managed to rope another 2000 viewers to sign their leaders debate petition taking it to 37,000 after 4 weeks,wonder if robinson can lend them 60,000 signatures so they can have their petition discussed
Report Injera October 15, 2018 4:33 PM BST
Major Simon Farley - sounds like a right wally. People who swear to make themselves appear tough are in fact weak.

He ties himself up in knots with an incoherent argument.
Report tobermory October 15, 2018 5:21 PM BST

Oct 14, 2018 -- 4:57PM, Ibrahima Sonko wrote:


Interesting video..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGRzRL3241E


What is the reason for thinking those boys were deliberately run over and killed by a terrorist ? The driver was a regular criminal 3 times over the limit.

Report Ibrahima Sonko October 15, 2018 6:10 PM BST
It is the parents claim not mine.
Report Facts October 17, 2018 10:45 AM BST
Reynard    15 Oct 18 00:16 
Always helps to see both sides of any argument .
Here is somebody who doesn't like Tommy .......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDULdxZN5wY



Don't agree with all he's saying.
But, he's absolutely correct in exposing what's happening to huge swathes of our society , namely the cuts being made to services and entitled benefits to the working class poor, sick, disabled and disadvantaged . All perpetrated by this Tory government, the establishment and the mass media.
This creates massive unrest, which unfortunately gives rise to the Right Wing racist  thugs who then feed into this unrest, and start blaming immigrants for the problems impacting the poor working class,
It's not immigrants, it's the Capitalists, the big  businesses, the bankers , the massive tax dodging personnel who are fleecing this country on the backs of the poor.
These are the people you should be rising up against.
Followers of Right wing eulogy are being conned. Look at your history, look at Germany, look at Hitker, look at the Nazi party , it's rise and growth and what that was built upon, leading up to WW11.

Learn the lessons ffs !!!f
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 11:13 AM BST
We’ll take a look at that after we stop immigration
Report saddo October 17, 2018 12:09 PM BST
'This creates massive unrest, which unfortunately gives rise to the Right Wing racist  thugs who then feed into this unrest, and start blaming immigrants for the problems impacting the poor working class'



People who are already at the bottom of the heap are hardly likely to appreciate millions more bottom feeders shipped in from abroad to share their crumbs, why would they?
Report Reynard October 17, 2018 12:35 PM BST
Facts - Too often the media and other observers label Tommy Robinson as 'far right' . I would suggest that the guy in this video is further to the right than Mr Robinson , so how would he be labelled ?
He claims that he used to follow Tommy'four names'Robinson . Did he begin to dislike him when he realised that Tommy Robinson's views weren't as extreme as his own ? If that is the case then maybe the media should reassess how they label Tommy Robinson .
Report saddo October 17, 2018 12:41 PM BST
'Far right' is already losing it's potency, like all the other abusive/derogatory labels they like to attach.
Report Reynard October 17, 2018 1:01 PM BST
The problem is that those who label others as 'far right' clearly have no real knowledge of what far right actually is . To me the term 'far right' conjours up images of Adolf Hitler and Nazi Germany of the 30's/40's or the NF marches through our inner cities in the 70's/80's with all the racial hatred associated with these ideologies .
To label those who voice genuine concerns over issues that affect our culture and history as 'far right' is akin to diluting the serious threat posed by real neo-Nazis !
Report saddo October 17, 2018 1:19 PM BST
They label people so they don't have to discuss the problem, easier to pretend there isn't one. They seem unable to produce a coherent pro-immigration argument. Facts might tell us why importing poor people is a good idea.
Report Just Checking October 17, 2018 2:20 PM BST
If you want a refresher into just how totally mental the peabrained c0ckwombles on the left are these days read this piece of lunacy in the indy (the failed Guardian). Epic tantrum about how anyone who opposes the ongoing damage to Europe is a "fascist".

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/italy-fascist-policies-march-rome-matteo-salvini-donald-trump-a8586711.html

The news that "In Poland, in Hungary, in the Czech Republic, fascists run whole countries. In places such as Austria and Denmark they either share power or are close to it."

Will be news to many. Everyone in those countries who isn't a SJW will be VERY surprised! These countries are fascists states. REALLY?

Do these leftist fools (of which there are many in) who call anyone who is against mass immigration or turning Europe into a "cally-fate" a "fascist" makes them look total morons?
Report UBLE/REGY October 17, 2018 2:29 PM BST
Laugh lfc1971

It is the Capitalists who want immigration to drive the wages of the poor down...

Labour should see this, but unfortunately they also rely on the immigration vote, so do nothing

A little immigration benefits us, mass immigration does not.

We need control of this


I have nothing against immigrants themselves as even my own country dislikes me....Cry


Just my own opinion
Report UBLE/REGY October 17, 2018 2:54 PM BST
Another problem with mass immigration is they bring their culture with them....they are reluctant to change to ours.

I only have only to read this forum to see the problem we have with one culture in particular.


This is another reason we need control of our immigration.
Report Injera October 17, 2018 4:15 PM BST
Facts calls Hitler right wing. We could have a discussion about that but probably best not to!

Nazism is the shortened version of National Socialism.

Hitler himself said his party was neither left nor right. He despised them both.
Report moisok October 17, 2018 4:21 PM BST
soon you will not be able to disagree if you want to keep your job


I hope you have all got your bbc badgesCrazy
Report Just Checking October 17, 2018 6:14 PM BST
I'll say this for old Adolf, I don't think he'd have tolerated industrial scale immigrant rape gangs operating in 30s Lower Saxony and called anyone who complained about it "racist".
Report scandanavian_haven October 17, 2018 6:16 PM BST
oh well, every cloud eh
Report Just Checking October 17, 2018 6:19 PM BST
"There good and bad in everyone" as they say.

Let us know when someone finds yours.
Report treetop October 17, 2018 6:52 PM BST
You could say that about muslims too JC ?
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 6:59 PM BST
i suppose injera will argue north korea is a democracy as it calls itself one

what motive do folk have for arguing hitler wasnt a fascist, ...i wonder ?
Report Just Checking October 17, 2018 6:59 PM BST
Could? Of course you could and should. What a ridiculous "question", exactly the sort of crap I'm on about!

Express any view against mass immigration and suddenly you're a nazi with the Guardian's checklist of strawmen to throw at you.

Who are you, Owen Jones? Laugh
Report treetop October 17, 2018 7:04 PM BST
Hitler came into power on a National Socialist ticket then morphed into fascism,a path that many communist/socialist tryannies seem to follow. Absolute power seems to corrupt absolutely.
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 7:07 PM BST
either absolute power corrupts or those that seek it are already corrupted

but thats another debate, and both may prove to be true
Report saddo October 17, 2018 7:11 PM BST
Mass immigration of poor people with alien and often violent cultures cannot be good for any country. It should not be difficult for SJWs and even Guardian readers to accept that, but their code will not allow it.
Report Just Checking October 17, 2018 7:22 PM BST
Owen Jones prime example, saddo. He berates people for questioning the importing of people into the country who would kill or at the very least oppress HIM due to his sexuality. And this is not really negotiable if they comply with what they believe to be the rules as laid out by "god". And he doesn't see what's wrong with this.

What a great example of someone who does not live in reality! He's good at flouncing out of studios though :)
Report scandanavian_haven October 17, 2018 7:32 PM BST
praising Hitler, just how far right wing can this forum get
Report Injera October 17, 2018 7:33 PM BST
Fascism: is a form of government which is a type of one-party dictatorship. Fascists are against democracy. They work for a totalitarian one-party state. ... It stands for a centralized government headed by a dictator.

Ahh, there was me thinking the EU was a dictatorship. Silly me, they have 4 (four) unelected dictators.
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 7:34 PM BST
make your own definitions to correct your error

and make a new argument

hey ho
Report Injera October 17, 2018 7:44 PM BST
Not my definition. Common knowledge that fascism is a one party, dogmatic state that rejects democracy.

And what was my error? That Nazism was National Socialism?
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 7:51 PM BST
doesnt sound like a definition of fascism to me


north korea calls itself a democtacy so you must think it is
Report layemall October 17, 2018 7:58 PM BST
I wonder what the arch enemies Churchill and Hitler, would make of the world today over a few beers, and with the benefit of foresight.....whether they would conclude to have done anything differently or not?....
Report Injera October 17, 2018 8:02 PM BST
osmond - give me your definition of fascism.

While you're at it, tell me which president of the EU you voted for.

NK is based on Juche beliefs. They also call themselves socialist. They don't hold elections, so yeah, bit like the EU Presidencies.
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 9:04 PM BST
whats the point of explaining to you?

whats it got to do with eu?

you get more bizarre the more you are shown to be wrong
Report moisok October 17, 2018 9:28 PM BST
osmond

apart from anything else where do you think the idea of a united greater europe sprang from near the end of the war?
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 9:36 PM BST
debate moves off onto new tangents as another myth is shattered
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 9:47 PM BST
Fascism is not the same thing as Nazional socialism

If you look at the first facist manifesto in Italy ( not sure about 1920) I suspect that it would appeal to very many people, it’s very progressive and leftist , it listed about 20 main objectives and is impressive
if you take a look donny it would be interesting which if any parts of that manifesto you would disagree with
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 9:54 PM BST
i dont speak, nor read italian,

having policies you have no intention of implementing does not define an ideology
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 9:57 PM BST
It proposed a 36 hr working week , workers as part of business councils , votes for women , voting age 18, minimum wage etc
it’s quite surprising how far ahead of it’s time it was
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 9:58 PM BST
But I agree it’s outcome was a disaster
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 10:00 PM BST
Reduction of retirement age from 65 to 55 , makes you wonder just how much progress have we made
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 10:03 PM BST
Revision of all military contracts , and seizure of 85% of profits
Report donny osmond October 17, 2018 10:04 PM BST
lots of parties produce a manefesto to gain votes

i remember the time the lib dems wanted to scrap tuition fees....
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 10:06 PM BST
Abolition of the senate , it was the upper House of Parliament but in the hands of the wealthy and directly appointed by the king
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 10:08 PM BST
The quick enactment of a  state law that sanctions a 8 hr workday for all workers
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 10:09 PM BST
proportional representation on a regional basis
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 10:12 PM BST
To show the same confidence in labour unions ( that price to be technically and morally worthy ) a s is given to business executives and public servants
Report lfc1971 October 17, 2018 10:14 PM BST
A strong progressive tax on capital
and so it goes on ....,
Report themightymac October 17, 2018 11:25 PM BST
Winston Churchill was all for a United States of Europe after WWII and is recognised as one of the founding fathers of the idea for a European Union.
Report Reynard October 17, 2018 11:50 PM BST
Much of Europe had been razed to the ground and unity was seen as essential in rebuilding infrastructure and international relations , I assume Plain
Report saddo October 17, 2018 11:53 PM BST
It's not much of a union when one member calls all the shots.
Report Reynard October 18, 2018 12:07 AM BST
Especially when that member state were the recipients of the wooden-spoon in 1945 Plain
Report themightymac October 18, 2018 12:10 AM BST
Adenauer was the king pin.
Report scandanavian_haven October 18, 2018 12:25 AM BST
west ham youth coach suspended for attending the football lads alliance march.
Report moisok October 18, 2018 12:30 AM BST
osmond the origins of the eu come from a particularly nasty austrian person for one but discussions were on going near the end of the war  - no it is not moving off on a tangent

anyway - it was you who asked what fascism had to do with it
Report moisok October 18, 2018 12:31 AM BST
be careful what you say be careful what you think - you may not have a job next week ho ho

and they howled me down when I went on about 1984 coming to a town near you
Report Reynard October 18, 2018 12:32 AM BST
The last thing we need at the London Stadium is neo-Nazi sympathisers . We might as well have stayed at The Boleyn Whoops
Report moisok October 18, 2018 12:32 AM BST
don't mention mr krupp  ho ho
Report scandanavian_haven October 18, 2018 1:30 AM BST
I only ever knew of people who called West Ham's old ground, Upton Park, in their last season it was Boleyn this and Boleyn that lol, years before that noting, even pundits, papers and commentators called it Upton Park, was there some sort of memo put out to everyone in their last season there to call it Boleyn?, was a new name to me.
Report Injera October 18, 2018 4:27 PM BST
Mark Phillips suspended by WHU. I wonder if my club will refuse to sell tickets to the many West Ham fans who were there on Saturday.

This is getting more evil by the day. What next, proof of left wing voting before you get a job?


Phillips broke no laws. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-6287389/West-Ham-suspends-coach-marching-right-wing-group.html

Daily Mail not accepting comments Sad
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 18, 2018 4:45 PM BST
Right wing group, who decided on that label ?
Report donny osmond October 18, 2018 5:11 PM BST
there is surely a difference between fans attending an event and paid staff attending an event
Report Injera October 18, 2018 5:29 PM BST
Depends on how far WHU want to take this.

Phillips was probably on his day off. Can an employee do what he likes within the law when he's not at work?

If WHU want to be consistent they should publicly distance themselves from all WH fans who support the DFLA and groups like them. They should make it plain they will not accept money for tickets nor merchandise.

I'll be supporting Tommy on Tuesday in person. I will then contact the club to see if they still want my hard earned or not.
Report donny osmond October 18, 2018 5:53 PM BST
he needs to think how his politics reflects upon the club

why does it reflect on fans

your logic is shocking, ...
Report Injera October 18, 2018 6:00 PM BST
We're run by the Dildo Brothers and you think they have some moral authority over what their employees believe?
Report donny osmond October 18, 2018 6:03 PM BST
exactly,...
Report ufcdan October 18, 2018 8:18 PM BST
Most of us are too old to worry but in a decade or so the thought police will be trolling through the Betfair forum looking for sexist and hate speech Mischief you have been warned Wink
Report Reynard October 18, 2018 8:51 PM BST
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Are you giving it that long ?
Report ufcdan October 18, 2018 8:52 PM BST
Point taken Reynard.........next Wednesday SadSadSad
Report moisok October 18, 2018 9:19 PM BST
'REPORTED' hate crime up 17 percent - I blame .............  WAIT FOR IT
Report moisok October 18, 2018 9:21 PM BST
BREXIT

Yes the police are saying there was going to be more of it due to the brexit crap

and they are going to try to keep it down

now how on earth will they do that

sounds a bit sinister and thought police ish??
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 18, 2018 9:36 PM BST
TR has had loads of videos removed this week, so sad Sad
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 18, 2018 9:41 PM BST
This is how corrupt the internet libtards are.

Try searching the words 'tommy robinson court date'

via google, duckduckgo or bing.

Just look at the google answers.

Even the most stupid must realise.
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