PM speech

We had the Brexit speech yesterday, today it's Brino.

just seen the delegates on tv handing fish to the seals I mean activists queuing up to hear treason

not putting fuel duty up is now classed as giving us something,its like your boss saying you are effectively having a pay rise because i was going to lower your pay but will not now

Not sure but I think Labour started banging it up with malice when they went all 'green'. Seemed unsustainable to me in a stagnant economy and so it has proved.

Good god, that woman has all the ease of a corpse.
I think it was Frankie Boyle who said she's badly in need of an orgasm.
Shes the most awkward human Ive ever seen
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-45733091/may-dances-onto-stage-at-conservative-conference

imagine the EU sat there quaking in their boots at the thought of a 3rd rate peter crouch impersonator coming over in 3 weeks to tell them how it isn't

she then embarrassingly goes on within seconds to talk about famous leaders from the past,she,s now not just an embarrassment to herself,her party but to the country

Even if you easily see through this continued lie about how, well cough...we are all in it together...sorry that was the other lie wasnt it? I mean that the tories have to appeal to all, or some 5hit like that.....
You have to pity this woman cos the alternative is that privilidged posh tw4t who enjoys bluster and using other people as his scapegoats, that boris tit. Life is all very easy aint it when you gamble with other people's lives and whatever happens  You are alright Jack

she,s that proud of chequers she didn't dare mention or have the confidence to mention the word once in her speech , her silence speaks volumes

Corbyn, a serial terrorist supporting, Britain hating, communist piece of garbage supported by fellow lunatics who would put the country back decades.

May, a middle aged woman can't dance very well. The horror.


I just hope voters get their priorities right.

she was also, if you recall the woman who sold all our liberty down the river via the snoopers charter.
Another lie based on proposed terrorims and paedophilia that was really about owning the internet and creating a modern day doomsday book on anyone they wish.

corbyn isnt in control of brexit, ...

....maybe your point is that may isnt either


dancing to a european tune makes the tories happy !!!

Oct 3, 2018 -- 3:52PM, Just Checking wrote:

Corbyn, a serial terrorist supporting, Britain hating, communist piece of garbage supported by fellow lunatics who would put the country back decades.May, a middle aged woman can't dance very well. The horror.I just hope voters get their priorities right.

Classic case of believing all the tripe you've been fed.... and turning it into an obsession.

She's got some front dancing around like that I give her that at least

No shame in this woman at all, she'd have made a great character on Shameless

Sorry Studyform, which part of the description of Corbyn do you not agree with? It's all provably 100% spot on.

you've got to love the likes of treason may, just heard peter lilly saying this is far to important a subject to play politics with like labour, the likes of peter lilly were holding firework displays spending millions on campaigns when david Cameron announced a refferendum to quash 1 ukip mp who was actually a true blue tory, the hypocrisy is mind blowing,

Her deal would keep us in the EU by all but name and the EU still want more

OK - Just to appease the 1st mouthpiece of the right who as always is spoiling for argument...
Incidentally jed. At least you were right to start the typically 'diggy' little post with an apology.

THIS IS MY ONLY ANSWER, The points are well made. If you don't agree, fine. I don't want to debate it.

1 Corbyn has NEVER supported any terrorists - he might talk to them, but says that lasting peace can be gained with dialogue rather than war.
Many people obviously choose not to believe that.

2. He isn't "Britain hating" that's just a stupid thing to write. He generally fights for the majority of the people who live in Britain and not just the royals, and his mates.

3. He's not communist he's a socialist. You can google the difference if you're not sure.

4. His supporters tend to be the intelligentsia/educated class (professionals) in the UK, you can locate demographic proof if you want. Most of the lunatics are those who rely on the Daily Mail or the Sun - or even the Guardian, since it's ownership change (same owners as the Mail -not for profit, for the agenda), which whilst being a left-wing paper hates Jeremy Corbyn.

5. The country is currently being put back to Victorian times - so it can only be brought forward.

6. May is possibly the worst and weakest PM this country has ever seen.

So, whilst the non-stop "Corbyn is useless" etc etc from all parts of the press and the Blairites in his own party has done its job, ie. if a lie is told often enough, people will believe it, the country is in a desperate state.

NHS, police, councils, schools, armed forces all cut too far, low wages for most, immigration (still not cut) and everything else that makes this worst the UK has been in living memory, and all you see is "Well, Corbyn wouldn't be any better, he's.... [Read Just Checking's list])"
Then it's "The mess Labour caused 10 years ago" (even though they didn't).

Instead of slagging off Corbyn, who has yet to be in power, try blaming the last 8 years of ruination.

would it be right to call Corbyn a Marxist Study?And I come in peace

No, I don't think so.
Though the term is bandied around.

I am not a devotee, terry, but I'm fed up with cheap journalism and the press all being owned by the same people, with their agendas.

Socialism is a very misunderstood word.

I find it impossible to read thru that without hearing Owen Jones whingey voice


I wonder...

Excellent:

www.theguardian.com/profile/marinahyde     

"His supporters tend to be the intelligentsia/educated class (professionals) in the UK, "
Lol you mean leftie students and SJW arts dept academics? People who real people consider a joke?

Where do you did total sh1t like that up from? How many intelligent educated hard working people in the private sector support moronic extremist throwbacks like Corbyn and his buddies in Venezuela/Cuba?

I mean I've read it all now.

There's a reason Professionals in the private sector and industry are horrified by the thought of him getting power.

Left wing academics teaching postmodern feminism and transgender studies, and the fools who study these subjects, who've never done a days work in their life, they may like him. People with any sense whatsoever don't.

And you are a what?

Agreed Study

Personally Id have loved to have believed in Corbyn, but its all boolix, just all all politcs dished up to the people is.

I think JC thought it all up while on the alotment. If he really thinks a green sector will take the place of the financial one he will alienate then hes quite man.
For a practical start, China invest heavily in this sector, and pay the workers nothing ffs.
How is he going to compete?

*quite mad

I'm quite pleased to say that I know a few people who think the current government and its allies are desperately bad and that Corbyn might offer a solution and NONE of them fit the standard; Mail-driven, just checking diatribe, definition.

He may not do much good, given the chance. Or, he might. What is for sure is he can't be any worse.
You DO know he won't be bought by big business and that the good of the country's population is more to the fore than with the Tories.

Green energy is heavily subsidised. You only need to see the recent failure of the lagoon to see what starts out as a good idea doesnt work financially

"He may not do much good, given the chance. Or, he might. What is for sure is he can't be any worse. "
Do you believe any utter kacka you write?

Do you have no idea just how very VERY much worse that dim witted useful idiot and the extremist puppetmaster who is actually controlling him would make this country?

Try taking a trip to Venezuela.

Take your own toilet roll.

I know his economics will fail and his ideology too (if 1%ers own the vast majority that creates downward force on all others, how come democracy in action does rectify it?....the answer is generic, and in everyone and why opportunism is decreed under capitalism as virtuous...because everyone is selfish at the bottom of it)
But i also acknowledge people alive today have to see it happen for themselves, the socialist failure. I wont stant in their way, its their right to see it crash.
But does anyone really understand why nobody ever votes socialism in?
No
The just want the dream that cant be achieved

communism has better chance of succeeding, because it directs the wanton desire.
Socialism just stops people based on them not taking out as much as they want.
Thats the reason capitalism has spread because it invokes greed in everyone and it becomes competitive

Venezuela, the socialist basket case people are desperate to get out of (like every socialist basket case before it, the Berlin wall wasn't to keep people OUT), is sitting on the worlds largest oil reserves. And they are still messing it up.

McDonnell, the real power in Corbny's Labour, said a couple months ago his job is to "overthrow capitalism", and he's famously a huge fan of Marx.

I suggest you read up what an entryist is and how the hard left take things over.

Its a horrible thing to say but I think its true.
No **** gives a damn about anyone other than themselves.
Step forward the natural ideology...capitalism
All the window fitting of saying it creates things is just a sideshow, its truly about catering for personal want.

Scandinavian countries have, for years been fine under socialist governance.
I would very much dispute that 1% at the top aren't the most selfish, by the way.

It's as simple as this.
If more people have money, they will spend it. If the money goes into the savings of the rich it, they won't.
Not enough money in circulation and a vast majority of people are scrabbling around for the loose change.

I could be mistaken, Just Checking. But I think Jeremy Corbyn isn't in charge of Venezuela.

I have work to do now. I've stayed far too long.

It's been real.

The 1% are the best at doing what everyone naturally wants....to input least while taking out most.

Which idiot desires to work too hard for too little reward?

The biggest single thing to lift people out of poverty over the years has been capitalism.

East Germany still hasn't recovered from its years suffering the 'joy of socialism', and that's with huge piles of money being thrown at it by the successful capitalist west Germany for almost 3 decades.

Happy Germany unification day btw!

Dusty in the USSR they used to have a joke
"we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us".

Oct 3, 2018 -- 7:15PM, dustybin wrote:

Which idiot desires to work too hard for too little reward?

The idiot with no choice.
Which is a lot of idiots.

Study I hear a lot of people argue that the game is corrupt.
Its not, its the same game for all, its just the box carrier aint clever enough to do much else.
The game is the same its just not everyone is equal.
Good luck trying to hold people back to box carriers

Im afraid this aint pleasant but its true.
Nature doesnt wet-nurse failure.
There should be the debate regarding fairness, and treatment of all people...but to say everyone has to be handicapped because of inability holds humanity back.

dustybin,
It's unreasonable to consider Box-carriers as failures. By your definition, everyone who doesn't have a high-flying well paying position is a failure.
This isn't true.

Some people have poorly paid jobs because they enjoy them. The fact is that money needs to circulate and not rise to the top - which it does - only to be put away with the other money. Therefore the people who will spend it are the people who should have it.

Whatever system of success you would choose to adopt, there would still have to be surgeons and dustmen, teachers and factory workers. If everyone went to university and got a degree, then the qualification for success would be 2 degrees, and the failures wouldn't be rewarded.

It isn't at all reasonable to offer those other than the 1% (or however large you want your %age to be) bugger all because they weren't your definition of "success".

Government isn't based on nature, nor should it be.

I'm guessing that you have studied economics and have possibly worked in the world of finance.
If not, you argue the case of someone in that very bubble.

Study, don't let your hatred of the Tories cloud your judgement on Corbyn's hatred of a certain group of people. This is my only contribution to the thread.

Haven't read all the posts so apologies if this has already been said.

STUDYFORM
1 Corbyn has NEVER supported any terrorists - he might talk to them, but says that lasting peace can be gained with dialogue rather than war.
Many people obviously choose not to believe that.

Yes and for good reason SF its pure bollox.
Corbyn attended ira events including funerals. He dined with them, met with them and even invited some to Westminster.
He did none of that with Unionists. He is now trying, as you are, to rewrite history. BTW plenty of ex terrorists have spoken of his support.

I won't slicer.
I also won't allow myself to get on the hate Corbyn at all costs bandwagon, I believe that the hatred you allude to is another besmirchment attempt which is still trotted out when there's nothing else to attack with.

SontaranStratagem
She's got some front dancing around like that I give her that at least
No shame in this woman at all, she'd have made a great character on Shameless

No shame for being a terrible dancer. We can't have that can we.

Sure as eggs is eggs.
Akabula turns up.
Ok, whatever you say. Corbyn held terrorsism jamborees, and hates his country.....
If anyone needs to read the Mail less, it's you.
FFS

I'm off.

Any flags handed out today?

STUDYFORM the classic see no etc etc monkey.
God help this country if he and his cohorts ever get into power.

STUDYFORM    03 Oct 18 19:11 
Scandinavian countries have, for years been fine under socialist governance.



Sweden has pretended to be fine while suffering serious violent disorder across their cities in recent years. They won't be pretending for much longer imho.

dustybin,
It's unreasonable to consider Box-carriers as failures. By your definition, everyone who doesn't have a high-flying well paying position is a failure.


I never called anyone a failure. People find their own place, how many impecunious erudite individuals do you know?
Equally, I wouldnt care less is somebody called me a failure if my future was secured because I had made my money.

The suggestion that people do poorly paid jobs because they choose to is fine, just dont expect everyone to have to take that limited aspect of life.
Im no tory, most of what happens in society is technologically based and the product of innovation.
If all a person can do is carry a box how do you equate that to value?

My point about nature not wet nursing failure was related to our evolution. Socialism goes nowhere because it has no 'umph' it simply treads water.

The whole planet knows the Scandinavian project has failed, it has been proven but someone thinks it is all ok.

What world does study live in ?

Not sure where he gets his news from.

Having started my last comment to you with a much appreciated apology STUDYFORM, I should now like to offer you my hearty congratulations for your reply.

It is, beyond question, the most ludicrous and delusional post I have ever read on this forum, so well done.