Question Time bbc1 10:45pm

Brexit is bad
The Tories are bad
Trump is bad and a "racist and a misogynst"
£350 million on the side of a bus

Who watches this tedious sh1t these days?

Panellists:   
        Chris Skidmore
    Barry Gardiner
    Vince Cable
    Nazir Afzal
    Camilla Tominey

Chris Skidmore was first elected as the MP for Kingswood in 2010 and re-elected in 2015 with a 9,006 majority

Nazir Afzal OBE (born 1962[1]) is a senior British lawyer who campaigns on issues around child sexual exploitation and violence against women. He is a practicing Muslim, a son of immigrants, and a feminist who speaks out for women's rights and against forced marriage, female genital mutilation and honour killings.[2] He is an expert in deradicalisation

Saw Portillo out by chance ...his orange jacket didn't look so bright as it does on TV

QT from Dewsbury

Dimbleby can't hide his disgust for Brexit and Brexiteers.
BTW wtf is Cable on.

oh no
not barry uphill again

Lol, just had a look, never seen such an unrepresentative audience, you'd think it was England

That balloon in the audience saying we're leaving the Customs union etc because the Tory party wants that and not the country.
FFS how daft and ignorant of the facts can you be.

Barry Gardiner would make a great childrens tv presenter.
Talks to everyone like they are about 10.

Just switched over. Dimbleby asking stupid questions he's asked before, and patronising remoaner moron on in the audience saying "people didn't know what they voted for".

So predictable.

This female muppet in the audience "We can't get bout so they should tell the people they made a mistake."

And vince the lying unliberal undemocrat wanting a second referendum and pretending he doesn't know the EU will never give a decent deal if they know one is coming. Treating us like idiots. I loathe that man.

350 million on the bus landed. FFS.

Don't like the result get out of my country. So tired of it.

the bus 1.01 landed

Nazir Afzal is very good, bossing it.

every import comes only to work
all engineers,dentists and doctors
none claim benefits or commit crime

Qestion to all u Remoaners , Doesn't seem Like Your European Friends give a fook about you Or perhaps I am Mistaken ?

Has Europe forgotten nearly 50 % of the Country voted to stay ?

Aye so he is UB. Bringing up the bus tells you his strength.

@JC
I complained to the LibDems after that speech by Cable which branded older voters as racists.
Got a standard letter then a warning of possible action when I forwarded my reply to their response lol.

Dimbleby an absolute disgrace as a presenter.

The thing is the libs have made "being anti Brexit" their unique selling point for years now, that was their thing last election and they tanked.

If people desperately wanted referendum 2 they'd have voted for them.

You part time Liberals seem to be turning on each other

Regards Brexit - why don`t they just get out.

He's always the same, lets the lefties and remoaners speak and give speeches as much as they like, when a tory or Brexiteer speaks he starts contradicting them and asking questions and cross examining and rebutting. Awful biased "host".

oh, that'll go down well on here .

His train cancelled 60 times in 4 weeks.

Hard lines

There we go.

Great "this week" is back, about the only thing worth watching on the BBC!

dimbo has been past his sell by date for years.

France banned the burka....should happen here.

Good man

Camilla Tominey talks a lot of sense.

The State telling people what to wear is a dangerous route to take.

Labour guy annoyed that illegal immigrants might be arrested.

Just typifies these traitors.

must be awful having to watch this ....

The state should employ gok wan to come up with some rules.

ian lavery v jacob rees mogg, lol

"The state should employ gok wan to come up with some rules."




Gok would Get on OK with the Irish Pm , any Chance we could sway him to Champion Brexit for us

themightymac
The State telling people what to wear is a dangerous route to take.

Have to disagree with you on that Mac.
I'd have a Ministry of Dress and would put Jacob Rees-Mogg in charge of it.
He'd soon smarten up the country.

Maybe if these communist nutters in Corbyn's Labour get power we can do what they have in north korea and only allow a certain number of approved haircuts.

Complaining about Boris and his Islamic comments.
Watched Ricky Tomlinson on one of his many chat show appearances.
Said he saw a Muslim woman coming up his drive. Full dress including the face mask.
After she chapped his door he shouted through the letterbox "How do you like it." 

The momentum tw#t speaking now even has glasses that look like Trotsky.

papers in meltdown today but arch remoaner adam boulton all chilled out heard it all before from the EU and heard it all before from brexiteers regards a deal,
still with sky shares about to reach £18 to 20 a share in Saturdays auction who needs to worry about Brexit ,hey adam,

micky Heseltine on sky yesterday unchallenged,said Brexit is literally dying in front of our eyes because lots of those who voted Brexit are dead or dying,imagine saying something similar about eastern Europeans,muslims,etc, sky would be in meltdown

Panellists:   
        Chris Skidmore
    Barry Gardiner
    Vince Cable
    Nazir Afzal
    Camilla Tominey

Another balanced panel of 4 who voted Remain and 1 who voted Leave. There would be meltdown if ever it were the other way round (but of course the unbiased BBC would never allow that).

the brtexiteer always wins out anything other than a 4 1 ratio would be the biggest mismatch since frank Bruno fought mike tyson

just watched it on iPlayer

don't know why I bothered, the script is set in stone every episode

we need a 2nd vote. landed
didn't know what they were voting for. landed
the big bus - landed
islamophobia landed
increase in hate crime - landed

and what about that pr1ck lawyer defaming the Hungarian hero PM. (waycist, waycist, blah, blah) 

The left trying to say anyone who opposes them is "far right" and saying someone is a racist or whatever is just so predictable now.

There certainly are some worrying aspects of the far right in hungary but all this rubbish about Orban being a "fascist" is just ridiculous.

The eastern countries haven't become PC **** yet and are standing up for their people and culture, doesn't make them nazis, but it really gets under the skin of the usual suspects (like the BBC of course).

I mean look at the stuff about Orban and Soros. The guy is constantly meddling in Hungarian politics and wants open immigration into it. Orban openly stands up against him, but because he's Jewish they start playing the victim and "anti semite" card. If you look at the "anti semitic billboards" that the BBC and the lefties go on about there is nothing that there that is anti semetic about them or the text on them, there is no reference to his religion at all. But of course the leftie media etc here don't need proof do they. It's pathetic. Soros (pro immigration leftie so loved by you know who) said it was anti semitic so that's all there is to it. If Orban was a *****ing Jedi or atheist I'm sure the posters would be the same.

The Hungarians do not want Islam established in their country and who can blame them. They have seen what a success it hasn't been in Northern Europe.

The BBC cannot seriously play the anti-semitic card with a straight face

..when their hatred of Israel is so palpable.     Or does that not count as anti-semitic ?

Sep 22, 2018 -- 8:30PM, Just Checking wrote:

The left trying to say anyone who opposes them is "far right" and saying someone is a racist or whatever is just so predictable now.There certainly are some worrying aspects of the far right in hungary but all this rubbish about Orban being a "fascist" is just ridiculous.The eastern countries haven't become PC **** yet and are standing up for their people and culture, doesn't make them nazis, but it really gets under the skin of the usual suspects (like the BBC of course).I mean look at the stuff about Orban and Soros. The guy is constantly meddling in Hungarian politics and wants open immigration into it. Orban openly stands up against him, but because he's Jewish they start playing the victim and "anti semite" card. If you look at the "anti semitic billboards" that the BBC and the lefties go on about there is nothing that there that is anti semetic about them or the text on them, there is no reference to his religion at all. But of course the leftie media etc here don't need proof do they. It's pathetic. Soros (pro immigration leftie so loved by you know who) said it was anti semitic so that's all there is to it. If Orban was a *****ing Jedi or atheist I'm sure the posters would be the same.

On the political right the fall-away from the political centre is portrayed as being exceptionally close to that centre and almost unbelievably vertiginous from there. 

You might step one place to the right by arguing for lower taxes say.  But take one step further and – woah – it’s all the way down to Nazism.

Take a step leftwards, by contrast, and you can just keep going and going, running all the way to the end. 

An end that never includes the Gulag

Should have put a ? after my question, but I doubt any of the usual suspects can tell me why Hungary should accept a religion it does not like or want. And given that they don't want it, is forcing them to do so possible?

We currently have hate as a crime but are moving to not liking as a crime. Embrace or be labelled a racist or worse.

The label is merely someone else's opinion in a word and has little chance of changing what people actually think. At best it can stop them voicing those thoughts, for a while at least.

Sep 24, 2018 -- 1:51PM, saddo wrote:

Should have put a ? after my question, but I doubt any of the usual suspects can tell me why Hungary should accept a religion it does not like or want. And given that they don't want it, is forcing them to do so possible?

Because they are not only a Member of the EU (a supra-National state, whose edicts trump Hungary's democratic decisions), they are also a major recipient of funds from the EU, so basically Brussels have them by the ging-gangs.

The UK decides to leave the EU and Brussels immediately starts picking random numbers out of thin air on how much we owe them. Hungary ever decides to leave and they'll get given a gold watch.

So they can force them. But you can't suppress a population for ever, as brexit proved, feelings  will out one day.

I am lucky - coz like the odious self interested united biscuits I am not going to be around for that long and it won't be pretty

what do you think they need a border force and their own army for

it will be the Yeomanry all over again - set upon the peasants for being revolting ho ho

Not wanting revolting cultures is revolting, funny old world.

the demographic will get you
20,000   
300 constituencies

bingo

a debate about a tv programme becomes an echo chamber for hatred....

as predictable as the advert on the bus

donny osmond • September 24, 2018 4:45 PM BST
a debate about a tv programme becomes an echo chamber for hatred....

Precisely the reason why those on the left prefer to stifle debate .
It avoids any likelihood that their argument wouldn't stand up to scrutiny .

i dont think of these guys as being on the left, they say they used to be ...

I see plenty of distrust and not liking but struggling to see the hatred unless ……...

Dislike is the new hate

revolting is the new dislike , lol

All these things are subjective, I suspect around half the population would agree with both of us, though you might lose a point or two for being  smug about your own preferences.

Do you agree with their culture Donny.
Their attitude towards women for instance?

or anyone who isn't straight?

Or disbelievers and apostates ?

Quite frankly , I think the list is pretty much endless ..........................

NO IT'S NOT REYNARD

how many more times do I have to caution you!!!

akerchewyly  if you reed that proper - like grammar  - IT IS  reynard  but it is knot if you get my meaning

its about other folks hatred , not mine

what has it to do with my thoughts on question time



your question, akabula, is a brilliant illustration of how the forum decends
into hatred

at least they have the sense to produce a definition of what is proper to clothe a woman when she rides a bicycle

You didn't see that one coming  BASH!!! CRASH!!!!!!!!

Maybe they exclude the bi bit two.

osmond must be a darling to live with
imagine being constantly corrected

but then these old fashioned edwardian types are rather backward

may be that is why he shares with the same with the friends from the desert

'It's about other folk not liking something which I personally do not mind' would be much closer to the truth donny, why don't you try that approach instead of exaggerating.

why do you constantly make stuff up about folk saddo

lets you down

I made a suggestion about your liberal use of disparaging terms for people with a different point of view to your own donny, what did I invent?

ozzie a hater???

you invented the suggestion

no he didn't

someone  else invented that word

your question, akabula, is a brilliant illustration of how the forum decends
into hatred

So to ask a question is a pathway to hatred. Incredible thinking even for you.
Although it makes sense if you are trying to deflect from something close to your heart.

Firing bullets creates discord and avoids proper discussion, very handy.

its not a pathway to hatred, its a deflection, as ever

and now you are making stuff up, trying to attack me

its quite funny really

my point exactly saddo

pity you cant see what you are doing whilst saying others are

its also quite funny