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alfee
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THOUGHT TO STILL BE A DANGER TO SOCIETY.
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Report casemoney September 11, 2018 8:59 PM BST
DEPORT TO MORE SUITABLE COUNTRY ..
Report DenzilPenberthy September 11, 2018 10:00 PM BST
How about London?
Report casemoney September 11, 2018 10:01 PM BST
Laugh
Report saddo September 11, 2018 10:08 PM BST
Anjem Choudary | Inflammatory quotes

“When Sharia law is implemented, maybe in 10 or 15 years’ time, she [the Queen] would be expected like all women in Britain to be covered from head to toe, only revealing her face and hands.”

“Thieves would have various warnings first, and only in cases where he has stolen more than £20 of non-perishable goods from a private house would his hand be chopped off.”

“Under Sharia and under the Koran the sale of alcohol is prohibited and if one were to also drink alcohol, that would be 40 lashes.”

“There will be no more pubs, no more gambling houses, no more national lottery.”

“All women would have to be covered up appropriately and wear the niqab or veil and so there will be no prostitution.”
By 2050, Britain will be a majority Muslim country. It will be the end of freedom of democracy and submission to God.”
“We don’t believe in democracy, as soon as they have authority, Muslims should implement Sharia. This is what we’re trying to teach people.”

“Next time when your child is at school and the teacher says, ‘What do you want when you grow up? What is your ambition?’ they should say, ‘To dominate the whole world by Islam, including Britain - that is my ambition’.”
Report moisok September 11, 2018 10:09 PM BST
It all makes a lot of sense.
Report saddo September 11, 2018 10:12 PM BST
Astonishing that this country should have to accept this filth walking around. Five year stretch for terror offences, and you get two for throwing a bacon sandwich at em.
Report trilby22 September 12, 2018 7:15 AM BST
How can this be even contemplated?  As Dale discussed, Jeremy Hunt, the Prisons' Secretary?, needs to step up and prevent this nonsense from happening.  Five years, it seems, was the maximum permitted sentence for such an offence at the time - of which 60% has been served.

Times have changed and this evil count needs to be kept under lock and key for a long time Angry
Report moisok September 12, 2018 11:06 AM BST
My friend lily will sort all you knuckle draggers out
Report Crisp77 September 12, 2018 11:16 AM BST
Hands chopped off and no pubs. Darts fans must be concerned by what he is saying.
Report moisok September 12, 2018 11:19 AM BST
Grin
Report woundedknee September 12, 2018 2:13 PM BST
put him in a boxing ring with Tommy
Report cardifffc September 12, 2018 3:04 PM BST
saddo............charming bloke
Report cardifffc September 12, 2018 3:05 PM BST
those quotes tell us he is a danger...........make him do his full sentance
Report cardifffc September 12, 2018 3:08 PM BST
he should have had 25 years minimum
Report cardifffc September 12, 2018 3:11 PM BST
that rapist was going to be released ....his  victims outrage and  public opinion stopped it.......lets hope the same happens for this scumbag
Report Injera September 12, 2018 3:27 PM BST
TBF, no more national lottery is something I can agree with. Also he mentions 'gambling houses' and doesn't mention BF. As we're all professional financial traders I'm sure we'll be fine.

Perhaps without the booze we might win more too?
Report moisok September 12, 2018 4:35 PM BST
injera is right
all you knuckle draggers must see the good points
Report detraveller September 12, 2018 4:57 PM BST

Sep 11, 2018 -- 10:08PM, saddo wrote:


Anjem Choudary | Inflammatory quotes“When Sharia law is implemented, maybe in 10 or 15 years’ time, she [the Queen] would be expected like all women in Britain to be covered from head to toe, only revealing her face and hands.”“Thieves would have various warnings first, and only in cases where he has stolen more than £20 of non-perishable goods from a private house would his hand be chopped off.”“Under Sharia and under the Koran the sale of alcohol is prohibited and if one were to also drink alcohol, that would be 40 lashes.”“There will be no more pubs, no more gambling houses, no more national lottery.”“All women would have to be covered up appropriately and wear the niqab or veil and so there will be no prostitution.”“By 2050, Britain will be a majority Muslim country. It will be the end of freedom of democracy and submission to God.”“We don’t believe in democracy, as soon as they have authority, Muslims should implement Sharia. This is what we’re trying to teach people.”“Next time when your child is at school and the teacher says, ‘What do you want when you grow up? What is your ambition?’ they should say, ‘To dominate the whole world by Islam, including Britain - that is my ambition’.”


He's right on the 2050 statement. That is true for many other European countries too.

I would love to ask him why so many muslim countries use the western democratic system if its so bad. And why no one else other than Saudi Arabia implements the full Sharia Law. He could be waging the same jihad in many muslim countries. Why'd he choose Britain?

Report Injera September 12, 2018 5:24 PM BST
To conquer the land of King Alfred would be quite a feather...
Report moisok September 12, 2018 5:34 PM BST
20,000 in 300 constituencies - the demographic will have it - job done
Report Reynard September 12, 2018 5:49 PM BST
Has anyone considered the possibility that he has shown remorse for his crimes and is now a changed man ?
I'm sure our criminal justice system would not allow him to be released if there is any chance of him re-offending .
I think we should see it in our hearts to give him the benefit of any doubt and trust that he will make a positive contribution to british society .
Report Injera September 12, 2018 5:51 PM BST
Muslims can't change. It's in their Sharia. Apostasy an all that.

Once a Mussie always a Mussie. He's hardly likely to take up Morris Dancing and sing the national anthem is he Silly
Report detraveller September 12, 2018 5:54 PM BST

Sep 12, 2018 -- 5:24PM, Injera wrote:


To conquer the land of King Alfred would be quite a feather...


Happy

Report Reynard September 12, 2018 6:02 PM BST
Injera - I accept that very few muslims change their religion but maybe Mr Anjem has turned from a bad muslim to a nice muslim .
Maybe his time in prison has helped him see the error of his ways Shocked
Report Injera September 12, 2018 6:13 PM BST
I certainly hope so. If he becomes an Ahmadi he would be most welcome. (The Ahmadis are not allowed to go to Mecca or Medina Crazy)
Report moisok September 12, 2018 6:48 PM BST
the cow jumped over the moon

the little dog laughed

to see such fun
Report detraveller September 12, 2018 7:41 PM BST

Sep 12, 2018 -- 6:13PM, Injera wrote:


I certainly hope so. If he becomes an Ahmadi he would be most welcome. (The Ahmadis are not allowed to go to Mecca or Medina )


You said Muslims can't change. I am assuming Ahmedis aren't considered muslims, which is why they wont be allowed in Mecca. If he becomes an Ahmedi its the same as him becoming an atheist or any other religion. Not happening.

Report portmanpark September 12, 2018 7:42 PM BST
moisok........Its sounds as if you have some sympathy with this vile human being.Tell I am wrong.
Report portmanpark September 12, 2018 7:43 PM BST
Tell me*
Report moisok September 12, 2018 7:47 PM BST
This has to be the post of the year for this forum

portmanpark    Joined: 07 Dec 03
Replies: 4974 12 Sep 18 19:42 
moisok........Its sounds as if you have some sympathy with this vile human being.Tell I am wrong.

I am always even handed in these matters - or hooked even.  ho ho
Report detraveller September 12, 2018 7:47 PM BST
And injera, be careful with who you like. You may like them today but these muslim sects(Qadiani being the one I know for sure) get a free pass when seeking asylum in Europe. They don't even need to prove religious persecution. a couple decades from now they might be an issue too.
Report trilby22 September 12, 2018 8:27 PM BST

Sep 12, 2018 -- 7:15AM, trilby22 wrote:


How can this be even contemplated?  As Dale discussed, Jeremy Hunt, the Prisons' Secretary?, needs to step up and prevent this nonsense from happening.  Five years, it seems, was the maximum permitted sentence for such an offence at the time - of which 60% has been served.Times have changed and this evil count needs to be kept under lock and key for a long time


Jeremy Hunt?  Stupid boy!  Rory Stewart!

https://www.westmonster.com/anjem-choudary-to-be-released-from-prison-next-month-less-than-3-years-into-sentence/
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In yet another shocking example of dangerously soft British justice, Islamist hate preacher Anjem Choudary is set to be released from prison next month, less than three years into a five and a half year sentence.

He was banged up for encouraging Muslims to join Islamic State and even the government admit that he remains “a genuinely dangerous person”.

Prisons Minister Rory Stewart told the London Evening Standard: “He is somebody that I would put into the category I have just mentioned – somebody who was not given a sentence of enormous length but somebody who is a genuinely dangerous person…we will be watching him very, very carefully.”

There are now said to be 228 terrorist prisoners in British jails, with more than 80% of that number comprising of Islamic extremists.

The danger posed by jihadists to the British public is huge. So why is Choudary being released? Why have prisons sentences become so weak? Urgent change is required.

Report moisok September 12, 2018 8:40 PM BST
and paying for him to be followed - good one that
Report Reynard September 12, 2018 9:22 PM BST
With the police stating that 'far-right' extremism poses a major threat to security , how is it that less than 20% of terrorist prisoners are of this persuasion . Have the threats posed by the 'far-right' been somewhat over exaggerated to suit some agenda ? Whoops
Report saddo September 12, 2018 9:26 PM BST
True moisok, no wonder the Police don't have enough money, thousands of em being followed.
Report jed.davison September 13, 2018 8:30 AM BST
Interested to read reynard's stats about percentages of the prison population by terrorist persausion, so I did some research.

It turns out that earlier this year, March, 13% were of the Far Right - 29 of 228. That figure was up from a mere nine one year before, and presumably represents the tranche of National Action members who have been proscribed and prosecuted in the intervening period.

It would be interesting to know how these figures would read if there were some international right-wing cause to which hundreds and thousands of European Rightists had travelled, which controlled a vast swathe of one of the world's continents and in which they declared an independent state, financed and inspired worldwide acts of mass murder, raped all the women they came across and drove non-believers out, or summarily killed them.

Would the authorities arrest these people on their return to Britain?
Report Reynard September 13, 2018 10:46 AM BST
I'm not sure what they define as 'far-right' in relation to these statistics . Is it the same definition as applied by the media to label anybody who has the gall to speak out against the dilution of our culture and the cover-up of serious crimes associated with specific ideology ?
Report jed.davison September 13, 2018 11:56 AM BST
Just done some more digging, turns out all the new Far-Right prisoners are connected to National Action - and as such you can take it for granted that they are as Far Right as Far Right gets, whatever definition you care to choose.
Report Reynard September 13, 2018 12:01 PM BST
Fair enuff , was just wondering cos not all labels actually fit the description . Obviously , in this example , they do Shocked
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