Merkel's legacy

Normal is the new far right. Her legacy is a continent in turmoil riddled with innumerable bad men from bad places.

What is it with Germany and its leaders?

Have they ever had a fuehrer that didn't lead them into disaster?

Lucky it doesn't kick off in London every time there is a stabbing.

they are just stabbing their own

'Far right'!!!Laugh Maybe these lads just want their country back....

I would venture the guess that people showing hitler greetings, glorifying Gauleiters, chanting "Deutschland den Deutschen, Ausländer raus" (Germany to the Germans, Foreigners out!", "Deutsch, sozial und national" ("German, social and national" - remind you of anything?), "Für jeden toten Deutschen, ein toter Ausländer" (for every dead German, one dead foreigner), "Wir kriegen euch alle" ("We're gonna get you all") while chasing not pure German looking folks....can be classified as far-right.

So are these people inherently Far-Right edy, or have they been made Far-Right by the events of the last few years?

Obviously we know that Extremists can mobilise the entire German nation, how do you think this will end?

Aug 27, 2018 -- 7:58PM, Crisp77 wrote:

Lucky it doesn't kick off in London every time there is a stabbing.

These people are protesting against a minority.
In London, people would have to demonstrate against the majority.
This doesn't happen in London because it cannot happen in London. Not feasible.

40% of children born in Germany this year were born to non-German or non-German born parents.
That number will obviously rise as that generation produces the next one.

That is Merkel's legacy.

Same across Europe really.  The concept of "nationality" will pretty much die out in 100 years or so.  Have a look at many international sports teams for a taste of what's to come.  Whether you welcome it, hate it or are ambivalent to it, there's no chance of stopping it.  So you might as well get used to it.

jed, the former area of the GDR, including and especially Saxony, has had neo-nazi problems for decades now. It's no coincidence that the NSU terror network had its stronghold there, already long before the last few years (committed their first known murder and bomb attacks in 1999)

Oh I see, so these problems are discrete to the Former DDR. How reassuring.

Danno, many years ago I read a French professor's paper about how half of the European countries would be muslim majorty by 2050. THis was before 2001. I am pretty sure he could not have considered the impact of afghan and iraqi refugees as the paper was before 9/11. If he gave us till 2050, Imagine how the afghan and iraq war would change his figures. And then imagine how 2015/16 would have changed that.

We were already headed in that direction. Merkel was only the catalyst. And she still has enough time to surprise us again. Its too early to decide on her legacy I think.

Not discrete, but the politicians there always turned a blind eye to it and let the neo-nazi structures grow in peace there. It's also where the AfD is at its strongest, despite also being at their most extreme in those areas.

The most notable attack on asylum seekers was in Rostock (Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, former GDR - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostock-Lichtenhagen_riots), Saxony and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern are also the only German states where the NPD, a full blown neo-nazi party, has made the state parliament since 1990 (9.2% in Saxony in 2004)

and the latter, btw., despite (or because) Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Saxony being the most homogenic of places around. You had to actively go looking for non-German looking folks in restaurants or döner kebab salesstands.

Merkel is Germany's answpeapr to Tony Blair an r sole who hates their own Country and they themselves are hated by the people

Sorry if this sounds a bit 'old school' but it is my belief that in order for one to have a vested interest in the future of ones Nation it is important to produce members of the next generation of that Nation ie. parenthood .
Many voiced concerns often include the phrases "I want a better world for my children/grandchildren" and "Our sons/daughters" etc. These words are spoken by parents who have a genuine concern for the world that will be left behind after they've gone because they feel a responsibility for their offspring . If you have no children you have no biological legacy . That's not to say that by not reproducing you don't have concerns for the future , but those concerns take on a different meaning . Indeed those feelings are possibly stronger from a maternal viewpoint as opposed to the paternal .
It is therefore significant that the leaders of two of Europes most powerful countries , Angela Merkel and Treason May , have , in my opinion , no vested interest in the future of Germany , The United Kingdom or any other European nation . They are driven by different forces which revolve around the present , their lifetime , and what goes after is of very little concern to them . I'm certain that if they were mothers they would possess totally different attitudes regarding the path down which they are taking their respective countries and the continent as a whole .

Interesting Rey …

Macron, the newly elected French president, has no children.
German chancellor Angel Merkel has no children.
British prime minister Theresa May has no children.
Italian prime minister Paolo Gentiloni has no children.
Holland’s Mark Rutte, Sweden’s Stefan Löfven, Luxembour’s Xavier Bettel, Scotland’s Nicola Sturgeon—all have no children.
Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European Commission, has no children.

Sturgeon.

Any others?

Taken from a May 2017 article

https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/otn.cfm?id=1217

Italian guy's changed

Giuseppe Conte has a child.

The prime minister of Luxembourg is also childless. I mention him not to cherry pick, but because it means that of the six founding members of what evolved into the European Union, five are now led by childless prime ministers or presidents. As George Weigel says, this would have been unimaginable to one of the founders of modern “Europe,” Konrad Adenauer, who was the father of eight.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/dying-europes-leaders-have-no-children/news-story/9e0106b5ea1a6d05e39a57caf883db5d
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trilby - as I say , it is just my personal belief . I remember how my own perspective changed when I became a father and how I fear for those I leave behind

It's a most interesting theory and I'm surprised never to have heard it raised before.

In 1957, Belgium, France, Italy, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, and West Germany signed the Treaty of Rome, which created the European Economic Community (EEC) and established a customs union. They also signed another pact creating the European Atomic Energy Community (Euratom) for co-operation in developing nuclear energy. Both treaties came into force in 1958.[45]

trilby22 • August 29, 2018 6:51 AM BST
It's a most interesting theory and I'm surprised never to have heard it raised before.

I would have spoken sooner but was afraid I would be branded 'far right' for having such radical views .......

No doubt we will be, Rey

Europe’s Childless Leaders Sleepwalking the West to Disaster

https://stream.org/234972-2/

As Europe’s leaders have no children, they seem have no reason to worry about the future of their continent. German philosopher Rüdiger Safranski wrote:

[F]or the childless, thinking in terms of the generations to come loses relevance. Therefore, they behave more and more as if they were the last and see themselves as standing at the end of the chain.

“Europe is committing suicide. Or at least its leaders have decided to commit suicide,” wrote Douglas Murray in The Times. “Europe today has little desire to reproduce itself, fight for itself or even take its own side in an argument.” Murray, in his new book, entitled The Strange Death of Europe, called it “an existential civilisational tiredness.”

Angela Merkel made the fatal decision to open the doors of Germany to one million and half migrants to stop the demographic winter of her country. It is not a coincidence that Merkel, who has no children, has been called “the compassionate mother” of migrants. Merkel evidently did not care if the massive influx of these migrants would change German society, probably forever.

… That is why Turkish leader Erdogan urged Muslims to have “five children” and Islamic imams are urging the faithful to “breed children“: to conquer Europe. Islamic supremacists are busily building a clash of civilizations in Europe’s midst, and they depict their Western host countries collapsing: without population, without values, and abandoning their own culture.

If you look at Merkel, Rutte, Macron and others, are these Islamic supremacists so wrong? Our European leaders are sleepwalking us to disaster. Why should they care, if at the end of their lifespans Europe will not be Europe? As Joshua Mitchell explained in an essay, “‘finding ourselves’ becomes more important than building a world. The long chain of generations has already done that for us. Now let us play.”

I am thinking Cressida here.

Inspector Pye isn't it?