100 mp's that voted leave now want to remain in the EU

Are they Euro MPs?

NO,it was on rte teletext this morning,there is a big swing towards the remain but i am not sure if it was a poll done in private,in other words what they say in public and how they really feel are two different issue's.What surprises me is that nobody has come out and said that the poll is wrong.

That can't be right. 100 mp's changing their minds would be extraordinary considering only about 160
declared definite support in the first place.
Is it maybe polling in 100 constituencies that voted leave now polling pro remain?
As a lot were close so that would be possible, 100 mp's changing course seems totally implausible

This is more than enough evidence that a secone ref id needed.

they will follow the money trail - now they can officially cover up expenses 'MISTAKES' - they have passed a new convention for mps  ho ho

how that plaice stinks

well they do if you leave them on the slab too long

I don't accept the polls findings  - I want another poll!!!

It’s not 100 MPs, it’s 100 constituencies that voted leave that are now slowly coming to terms with the catastrophic financial impact Brexit will have on businesses.

Yet another try by the poor losers to overturn the vote. Sad lot.

It is frightening the lengths that big brother goes to.  Much more of this to come.  Control of the populace is paramount when they start to veer from the true path.

Deborah Meaden, who has over a quarter of a million followers - many of them presumably business owners - asked The Question: Is there a business in the UK that is embracing Brexit?

She didn't get one response. Not one.

Case closed I think.

Actually that’s wrong. The financial experts of the Betfair Forum would be better places to run the UK economy.

The stupidy of some on here knows no bounds.

Deborah Meaden
So we let her decided whether we stay or go?
We'll soon be out. Rejoice.

Fancy logging on late on a Sunday to slag off people, what a sad life you muse lead.

She knows more about running successful multimillion pound businesses than you though hey?

I’m curious as to hear your main three economic benefits of leaving the EU. Do enlighten us. Try and engage both your brain cells before you click on the reply button.

Sonko you called me a ‘libtard’ the last time I was on here.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Must admit i only know of two but these are the only ones
the media cover only small business though Wetherspoons and Dyson
As said before i've no idea if it will be better in the future but think it will
probably not in the short term,i think we done alright before EU still think this would
not have happened if still just a trading block.But if they have another vote and remain
what kind of remain is being preposed as cannot be the same as is now otherwise another vote and another
will be down the line or you could have 30-40 UKIP mp's holding balance of power

I dont log in just to call people stupid, late on a Sunday.

Nor can I predict the future.

My mate works in Canary Wharf. If no deal happens he’ll be moving to the continent along with his 1500 colleagues. No deal Brexit means economic hardship that would make the 2008 financial crash look small time.

Yet we’ve got people on here who are celebrating the prospect of a no deal.

Just so we’re clear then it’s OK for you to throw insults around but not me?

Have I got that right?

I have insulted an entire forum.

im not insulted, but its an insult to not give the masses a second chance to vote.

As they say Mr Eboue numbers dont add up
Why are we prepareing for hs2 longer platforms in London
longer trains extenting plenty of Rail stations serving London
My own being one Multistory car-park going in to cater for the extra
and new station being built 5 miles down the road due early 2020's
could be a white elephant like the o2.

Mr Eboue don't you think the vast majority of her followers will be like minded?

I’ve nothing whatsoever against people who voted Brexit. I don’t agree sith a lot of what the EU does.

However, no one who voted for Brexit voted to be worse off. The lies of the duplicitous idiots like Johnson and Farage have been exposed and now reality is setting in.

What I find particularly worrying is the attitude of people who think that they’ve won as long as Brexit happens. These people can’t name one major economic impact of leaving our biggest market but they’re still mad keen for it to happen. It’s bewildering.

She knows more about running successful multimillion pound businesses than you though hey?
I’m curious as to hear your main three economic benefits of leaving the EU. Do enlighten us. Try and engage both your brain cells before you click on the reply button.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the experts predict doom and gloom if we didn't join the Euro?
As regards your second point I won't reply given the abuse you've attached to it. Will we put it down to the time of night?

The transition period runs until December 2020.
In other words the period from now until 1/1/21 is a longer period than it is from now back to 23/6/18.
So why are people getting their knickers in a twist about this so far out.
There can only be two reasons - they hate their own lives, or they love the taste of landowner kok.

The lies of the duplicitous idiots like Johnson and Farage have been exposed and now reality is setting in.

So what are these lies that have been exposed?

I apologise for that comment Akabula. I’m just quite angry that the damage of a no deal Brexit will have on so many of my friend and families who own their own businesses.

A friend of mine went out of business last week. He supplied equipment from the EU and was told a month ago that the company he sourced his stuff from in Holland were cancelling his contract. This will be a regular occurrence if no deal happens. And not just small companies either.

350m to the NHS and Turkey joining the EU. That’s two straight away.

We have not left our biggest market, very poor from you. Get your facts right before logging in on a Sunday to insult a forum.

We dont know if we will be worse off, only guessers would know otherwise.

All I know is that im prepared to take a hit so that we will not be governed by an unelected liberal movement.

Sorry Sonko, despite your abuse I always had you down as fairly intelligent.

I didn’t insult a forum, I insulted complete cretins like yourself who think you’re better placed to discuss our post Brexit economy rather than professors of economics at leading universities.

Try reading a few books, you might learn something.

350m to the NHS.
Firstly we aren't out of the EU and secondly the claim was "We could for instance …." Everyone understood that.
In respect of Turkey joining the EU that was a possibility at one time but even if we accept that as misguided it was never a lie.
What 'lies' do you have?

‘Prepared to take a hit’ you say.

How many billions worth of damage to our economy makes it worth it? And please tell me which EU law that impacted negatively on your life and the one major impact we’ll enjoy once we leave our biggest market. ANSWER THESE PLEASE.

Give me a ball park figure please.

It’s like holding a conversation with a bloody sheep. You’re as thick as two short planks.

I read plenty. Thanks, doesnt make me any better than anyone else.

You called people stupid who dont agree with you, that is fascism which is much based on economy.

I have not abused you at all.

In any negotiations you weaken your position if you show your hand.
A 'No Deal' is being bandied about by both sides and it would be a disaster for us and the EU.
It won't happen but both sides will be hoping the other wilts.
Some in this country are doing the work of the EU in putting pressure on our Government.
What do you want them to say? "We'll take any deal rather than a no deal"? That would be suicide.

Why would you be hanging around sheep and talking to them ?

Your anger is very worrying.

Definition of fascism: Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy, which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.

Stop embarrassing yourself. Try and read a dictionary maybe, you might learn what words mean.

Go and read what abuse you threw my way on the Trump thread you hypocritical cretin.

Answer my question on which EU law negatively impacted on your life and which economic impact you are looking forward to us enjoying when we leave the EU.

At least try. Go on.

As regards the economic benefits, or otherwise, of Brexit then that is a question that cannot be answered until we negotiate a deal.
But leaving the EU wasn't about that for the vast amount of people who voted. It was quite simply about taking back control of our borders and laws.
I didn't like the direction the EU has taken and no one in this country voted for this. We joined a common market and not a political union.

My mate works in canary wharf and he says he and about 50,000 of his german colleagues are moving to the uk work.
They love the british beer and those sexy women who parade around at the weekends

that is a stunning admission don't you think

spot the deliberate mistook

How many billions worth of damage to our economy makes it worth it? And please tell me which EU law that impacted negatively on your life and the one major impact we’ll enjoy once we leave our biggest market. ANSWER THESE PLEASE.

You haven't a clue about this so why do you expect others to have? As I've said it's impossible to know without knowing what the deal is.
As regards the second part they don't need to impact me directly just my country for me to be against them.

the latest news from constituencies is that CONSTITUENTS have turned on their mps  and put them in there plaice over this pro eu propaganda

their are storms  a head

ps  reference no in what will happen

EVERY ONE of the finacancial institutions over the last two years have been wrong wrong wrong about the uk economy

so if they have been wrong how on earth do any of you lot know anything

hope this helps

thigh national !!!not finacancial

oh ww111 has broken out on here

That's nothing to the phobia wot they have caught.  Irrational fear of being independent. ho ho ho!!

BREXPHOBIA!!

use herd it here first

I am always way a head of use lot

Nobody has a clue as to what the final deal will be.
Anyone thinking there won't be one is not thinking straight.
Do they honestly think that the EU, who export more to us than we do to them, will not want to trade with us?
And until we know what it is then nobody can predict anything.

If people measure their quality of life by material possessions then by all means staying in the EU may be best.
For me a reduced population will lead to a better quality of life. It will no doubt take time to achieve but our services won’t be overrun, roads won’t be clogged and there’ll be adequate housing for all ... none of this we have to build a million homes by whenever nonsense ... how on earth can this country cope with that?

Correct RC if you have to build up to
house people you have too many people
And the money situation will sort itself out
over time as we move to a total bank account surveillance
society or cashless as they like to call it.

We're not "leaving our biggest trading market". Who said we were? We'll continue to trade with the EU but under different conditions. Those which suit both parties.

Free movement of people impacts negatively on the every day working class and middle class person in Britain
That is the most important reason to leave the EU

Now for some , Eboue friends in the city perhaps , it doesn’t impact
But fit millions of others it does , that’s why they voted leave
Now if Eboue and his friends don’t give two hoots about them I don’t see why they should worry too much about Eboue and his friends

It’s like this , let these great talents that are Eboue,s friends leave for France or Germany , where ever
I can assure you they won’t be missed

It is a blatant distortion that there is total free movement of citizens in the EU. There is free movement of labour if a job
is available but otherwise you have to prove you are self sufficient and will not be a burden to the social system of
the country you move to and have comprehensive medical insurance.
If you cannot fulfill those criteria within 3 months you can be sent home. Other EU countries strictly enforce this but
for some reason our government has not done so.

Directive 2004/38/EC of the European Parliament And of the Council sets out clear guidelines that allow EU countries to
control their borders effectively. The government needs to answer as to why it does not implement them.

"Persons excercissing their right of residence should not become an unreasonable burden on the social assistance system
of the host member state during an initial period of residence. Therefore, the right of residence for Union citizens and their
family members for periods in excess of three months should be subject to conditions."

The conditions mentioned mean that any EU national can be expelled if not meeting them and other member states remove thousands who do not. The UK, for whatever reason does not make people even fill in registration documents when
arriving so cannot keep accurate records.

The failing is with our governments not the EU.

If our government can’t be trusted to stop free movement of people , and they can’t
Then that is all the more reason to have voted to leave

ok,i am not defending Boris but at the begining he said "the uk should pretend that they will leave the EU trigger article 50 and then when the talks start about leaving the UK could change their mind and then seek better terms for continuing at member"
Now the problem with this terrific idea is that once article 50 was triggered the UK would need permission from the EU to reverse article 50 and i am not sure if the EU would allow this after all this time.In other words the EU could say to the UK at this time "you can vote all you like about staying or leaving but the sad news is that you have already triggered article 50(handed in your notice to quit)and we(EU)will decide if you stay or leave and it will be on our(EU)terms.
So the UK are now caught hook line and sinker and will have to go cap in hand to the EU if they want to remain.

If this country thought we were leaving 2 hours after the result they were pretty naive and stupid

But if anyone truly believes they are leaving the EU after the past 2 years we've witnessed they may need a psychiatrist now imo 

30 minutes after the result the BBC were running a "hard or soft brexit" story, I mean THIRTY MINUTES after the result, they couldn't even let it die down a bit, let the dust settle a bit before they ran that story.

I knew right there and then it was only ever leaving in name only

so this is the reason where no deal comes into play,and no deal leaves the UK trading goods and services with third world countries,an economy meltdown and mass unemployment.
A leave will give much the same results.
and the last option is to get permission from the EU to reverse article 50 ,go to the people of the UK again with another referendum and make sure they get a remain(join again)result.
So you see how much  of a hobson's choice Theresa May has,she cant win no matter what direction she takes,and whatever one she does pick will be the wrong choice in the eyes of all.

And the final alternative is to put THE BORIS PLAN into action ,where Boris himself takes over as prime minister ,goes over to Europe ,tells them he has inherited an impossible position and works with the EU and negotiates a whole new set of terms and conditions that are favourable with the UK people and signs up as a new fully fledged member of the EU
and becomes the hero and saviour of the UK.HAIL BORIS,LONG LIVE BORIS ,BORIS SHOULD BE KING,sort of thing.
and that is why politics is such a dirty business.

Remain will win another vote hands down in my opinion because
those that voted leave will not vote again most probably
never vote in a general election either unless it for UKIP
and given some very strong leave areas may end up with between
10-35/40 seats thus Tommy Robinson and co holding the balance of power
now isn't that something to look forward too.(only one bottle of wine so far)

you see politics is all lies and we all know it but every once in 1000 years a colour charismatic person comes along and can get what he wants just by being who he is,it does not matter ,as long as he is himself he will hypnotize everyone,and Boris is that guy ,Boris will make the UK great again ,you may love him or hate but nobody can ignore him .
The day will come that Boris will come to power over the UK in a landslide victory and imvho in will be in the very near future .
AND one little footnote .The guy is a genius and very very very clever.

It's not impossible, Brassy, as the Tories will see him as the only one who can win the next election for them.
Where I would disagree is that he won't sign us up as a fully-fledged member of the EU, I think he will tear up the Chequers proposal (the EU won't accept it as it stands anyway) and take the EEA (Norway) option as being the best of a bad job and the only one which he could get through both Parliament and the EU.
Have you got your meagre resources on Boris as the next Tory leader yet?

i think he is ready to move,and i think it will be in the next six or seven weeks,the Boris machine is about start up but Boris himself will do the driving.
i seen an interview he done a few years back where he wanted the UK  to leave the EU and then rejoin it under better conditions ,and things are sort panning out to suit his original position ,its sort of like a horse race and Boris is tucked in behind the leaders and the race is coming to the 2 furlong marker and an opening has appeared and Boris is about to press the button and go for the gap when it is there.
He is a very very clever man .
look out for sound bites in the next week on the news as the Boris machine starts to roll.

Mr Eboue
12 Aug 18 23:18
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My mate works in Canary Wharf. If no deal happens he’ll be moving to the continent along with his 1500 colleagues. No deal Brexit means economic hardship that would make the 2008 financial crash look small time.

Yet we’ve got people on here who are celebrating the prospect of a no deal.

^

Scaremongering for a person who likes to post ant-Trump comments when growth in the USA is running at 4% and black and Hispanic unemployment is at record lows.

northanlite
13 Aug 18 10:10
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It is a blatant distortion that there is total free movement of citizens in the EU. There is free movement of labour if a job
is available but otherwise you have to prove you are self sufficient and will not be a burden to the social system of
the country you move to and have comprehensive medical insurance.
If you cannot fulfill those criteria within 3 months you can be sent home. Other EU countries strictly enforce this but
for some reason our government has not done so.

Directive 2004/38/EC of the European Parliament And of the Council sets out clear guidelines that allow EU countries to
control their borders effectively. The government needs to answer as to why it does not implement them.

"Persons excercissing their right of residence should not become an unreasonable burden on the social assistance system
of the host member state during an initial period of residence. Therefore, the right of residence for Union citizens and their
family members for periods in excess of three months should be subject to conditions."

The conditions mentioned mean that any EU national can be expelled if not meeting them and other member states remove thousands who do not. The UK, for whatever reason does not make people even fill in registration documents when
arriving so cannot keep accurate records.

The failing is with our governments not the EU.

^

Every few weeks someone rolls out this nonsense.

If someone moves over with their wife and kids and gets a low paid job within 6 weeks how exactly do we send them home? How do we stop them using the schools, NHS, and tax credits?

How do they explain that the UK failed in its case to deport rough sleepers from the EEA?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/14/home-office-policy-deport-eu-rough-sleepers-ruled-unlawful

It is rolled out because it is true. Low paid jobs of course tend to be the vacancies that
are not being filled and, assuming everything is just fine after brexit, that won't change. The nationalities
of migrant workers may change but the "low paid jobs" will still need to be filled.
In France & Belgium for instance those looking for employment have to register, if they do not that cannot access
sevices and if they don't find employment within the specified time they are denied access to services and can
be sent back.
For some reason the UK didn't implement anything like that. I can't answer why.

If we have so much control how come we cannot even deport rough sleepers?

I have no idea why, the controls are in place but......

The problem is not just getting them to leave ( which they might be able to do , in theory )
The problem is if they stay because of freedom of movement as soon as one goes another comes back in
Maybe 2 or 3
That’s another good reason to have voted Brexit

Very difficult to go to the trouble of getting people to leave , only to look over your shoulder and there’s a few more

They cannot afford accommodation on the money they earn yet they won the right to stay. Deporting has been found to be against EU law in these circumstances. Your directive therefore has been interpreted by the courts to mean if you cannot afford accommodation you can still be self-sufficient.

'A Nelma spokesman said: “In reality, many homeless people targeted by the Home Office have fallen on hard times and are working but unable to afford accommodation.

“The numbers of European nationals sleeping rough have been steadily increasing since 2010. But rather than making substantial or systematic attempts to provide solutions to homelessness through accommodation and employment support, local and national authorities have opted to add enforcement measures to austerity policies. We hope this decision will put an end to a social policy which used imprisonment and deportation as solutions to eradicate homelessness.”'

just bite the bullet and have another vote please.
its what the people want.

Brexiteers don’t want it

Nobody wants it apart from a few Soros funded Globalists.

Remainers may do , but we don’t really  care what they want

I am quite certain that the majority of those who voted leave don’t want another vote
Raves what matters because they won the vote

* that’s

ok well maybe only leave voters get another vote on having a new referendum

It’s quite astonishing really just how selfish remainers ( like Castillo moon ? ) can be
That’s what they are like , they can only be what they are
Selfish