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InsiderTrader
06 Aug 18 12:40
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Are you not better off exposing conspiracy theories as being wrong? Surely just closing them off will just fuel the stories further giving a badge of honor?

Apple has removed hundreds of podcasts by conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his InfoWars brand from its iTunes and Podcasts apps.

It said in a statement that it "does not tolerate hate speech".

Facebook has also "unpublished" the InfoWars page on its platform for "using hate speech".

Several episodes of Mr Jones' show were also removed from Spotify on Thursday for violating the music app's "hate content policy".

Mr Jones has been widely criticised for repeating conspiracy theories that the 9/11 attacks in New York were staged by the US government.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45083684
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Report terry mccann August 7, 2018 1:53 PM BST
Anyway dave watch that vid(and u ifc) on 9/11,you will enjoy itLaugh, if it wasn't such a filthy trickAngry
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 1:55 PM BST
Most people dont IFC. They dont want to see the truth. IT IS EASIER TO TUNE IN FOR THE NEWS AT 10 .

Good Luck.
Report terry mccann August 7, 2018 1:57 PM BST
As you are so keen on facts,could you give me some on John Bolton IFC?
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 1:58 PM BST
Ah , you’re mistaken dyno, I like the truth
I love and honour facts

That’s why i have been asking you
Have you any facts ?

It seems not , good luck
Report edy August 7, 2018 1:59 PM BST
He'll be so super mad at both of you spelling it IFC instead of LFC (for the ever glorious Liverpool F.C.)
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 2:03 PM BST
Just go and buy the book then. Depends if you really want to know the truth or just talk about wanting it ..

Enjoy
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:04 PM BST
There we go , it seems dyno has no facts

And to think he claimed to be interested in the truth
nevermind , life is just one dissapointment after another
Report InsiderTrader August 7, 2018 2:05 PM BST
dyno-layer,

You believe the holographic planes/death-rays explanation for 9-11 on your video?

If there were no planes in the attack where are physical plans and passengers now?
Report terry mccann August 7, 2018 2:06 PM BST
O gawd thought it was Ipswich, honestly sorry about that LFCWhoops
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:06 PM BST
Maybe he has read the book , I don’t know
But no facts , or non that he can recall
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 2:07 PM BST
Ypu were right Terry. I almost got drawn into that trolling.
Report terry mccann August 7, 2018 2:07 PM BST
Insider all the answer and more in that vid, why don't people look and learn something???
Report edy August 7, 2018 2:07 PM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 2:04PM, lfc1971 wrote:


There we go , it seems dyno has no facts And to think he claimed to be interested in the truth nevermind , life is just one dissapointment after another


I love you and so do many other people. Always be aware of that.

Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:09 PM BST
Isn’t it terrible when people ask you a question that you can’t answer

And then to become angry because you can’t answer it
Oh well sometimes the question is more important than the answer ,
More revealing
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:10 PM BST
Any facts dyno ?
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 2:10 PM BST
Insider... I believe that anything is possible even if i cannot comprehend it. In years / maybe decades time the truth will eventually get spun out but it probably wont be in our lifetime.
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:11 PM BST
You’ve read the book ?

Go ahead ...
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:12 PM BST
Maybe he has read it but can’t remember any facts , oh well
Report InsiderTrader August 7, 2018 2:14 PM BST
There were some interesting points in video.

Like how did the planes simply vanish at every crash site and how did they travel that fast?

It is the first one I have seen where they claimed the planes were actually fake.
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:16 PM BST
Now dyno believes that anything is possible ( or so he says but no one of course is that silly )

Anything is possible ? That I can safely say is not a fact
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 2:19 PM BST
Insider....It really is fascinating stuff. There is so much that we dont really know about.
Report terry mccann August 7, 2018 2:19 PM BST
Official line a little suspect in places
Report edy August 7, 2018 2:20 PM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 2:16PM, lfc1971 wrote:


Now dyno believes that anything is possible ( or so he says but no one of course is that silly ) Anything is possible ? That I can safely say is not a fact


You lied to me? Cry

By lfc1971 on 19 Jul 18 13:00
Thankyou yes you see you can make some sensible suggestions Well done , just goes to show anythings possible Even the most unlikely


How will I ever be able to regain my trust in humanity?

Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:22 PM BST
: ) very good edy it’s just one of my little sayings ...

anythings  possible , I read it somewhere
Report edy August 7, 2018 2:24 PM BST
yeah, "anythings [sic] possible" sure is one of your most used go-to phrases. I like it. Sends a nice, positive vibe.
Report InsiderTrader August 7, 2018 2:26 PM BST
terry mccann
07 Aug 18 14:19
Joined: 26 Jan 05
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Official line a little suspect in places

^

Indeed.

But if the official line was that the planes were holograhic projections and the destruction was done by death-rays not many would believe that either.
Report trilby22 August 7, 2018 2:27 PM BST
http://drjudywood.com/towers/
Report trilby22 August 7, 2018 2:28 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4TMqsQv740
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:30 PM BST
Certainly it’s possible dyno has come across some facts and just doesn’t remember them
That’s possible , but unlikely
I don’t think he knows any facts , I could be wrong , its possible

Any facts dyno ?
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:31 PM BST
Too much to ask ? , just one
Report jollyswagman August 7, 2018 2:32 PM BST
anything's possible, i read it somewhere.

who would deny that? Cool


interested to hear you love Facts, lfc. do you intend to marry him? Laugh

'pipe down swagman'
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:34 PM BST
haha ,good to see you back on the forum swagman
Report terry mccann August 7, 2018 2:35 PM BST
I haven't heard that one Insider to be honest
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:35 PM BST
Do you know I thought from the very start that dyno would have no  facts

And I wasn’t wrong either
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:36 PM BST
Not just dyno of course , terrys the same
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:37 PM BST
I won’t even bother to ask terry

Oh ok , go ahead terry surprise yourself ...
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:39 PM BST
Terry and dyno would like to admit that they gave no facts

I am sure they would , but they just can’t

I don’t know why
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 2:42 PM BST
Wouldn’t it be excruciating if they came up with a fact now ?  : )
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 2:47 PM BST
https://wolfclanentertainment.com/911-alchemy

ifc ..if you can spare the time in between posting I would strongly recommend you give the above documentary a run through.

It is not boring and is done in a modern day format which will hopefully help you to get a grasp on some facts .

It may just change your life.

DJW book is also available on line.

Unfair of me to broadcast her findings when her work is readily available for all and sundry to purchase.

Just saying,

Good Luck.
Report aaronh August 7, 2018 2:49 PM BST
Strange times when lfc is seemingly the sensible one on a thread
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 2:49 PM BST
More facts in there than you can shake a stick at .. But you may not like them as they are notas per the official account.

There is plenty more where that came from but lets get you off and running.

I will be interested in your feedback and what you made of it all,
Report dyno-layer August 7, 2018 2:50 PM BST
https://wolfclanentertainment.com/911-alchemy
Report nellie1970 August 7, 2018 3:00 PM BST
i am watching judy woods documentary now never even heard of this one
Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 3:36 PM BST
lfc1971

Some of your argument points come right from infowars and drudge report

Maybe not directly, maybe you watch and read other sources, but the sources and stuff you read has been gotten from infowars and drudge
Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 3:41 PM BST
Alex Jones

"the deep state"

Everyone on that side of the fence is obsessed with the deep state

As an example

the rhetoric is all the same, from deep state to censorship

And no one is censoring Alex Jones either, they've just kicked him off their platforms, he's still allowed to spout his c*** on his app podcasts and his own website, how is that "censorship"?
Report trilby22 August 7, 2018 3:48 PM BST
Plenty stuff about him being dodgy going back years here ...

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?s=Alex+Jones&submit=Search
Report InsiderTrader August 7, 2018 4:04 PM BST
SontaranStratagem
07 Aug 18 15:41
Joined: 30 Aug 17
| Topic/replies: 3,217 | Blogger: SontaranStratagem's blog
Alex Jones

"the deep state"

Everyone on that side of the fence is obsessed with the deep state

As an example

the rhetoric is all the same, from deep state to censorship

And no one is censoring Alex Jones either, they've just kicked him off their platforms, he's still allowed to spout his c*** on his app podcasts and his own website, how is that "censorship"?

^

Imagine a situation where all the social media channels only allowed links to and comments from the Tory Party and media outlets that supported them and banned the Labour party and any media outlet that supported them. Or vice versa. Would that be acceptable given billions of people worldwide use social media to find information and links to information.
Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 4:34 PM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 4:04PM, InsiderTrader wrote:


SontaranStratagem07 Aug 18 15:41Joined: 30 Aug 17| Topic/replies: 3,217 | Blogger: SontaranStratagem's blogAlex Jones"the deep state"Everyone on that side of the fence is obsessed with the deep stateAs an examplethe rhetoric is all the same, from deep state to censorshipAnd no one is censoring Alex Jones either, they've just kicked him off their platforms, he's still allowed to spout his c*** on his app podcasts and his own website, how is that "censorship"?^Imagine a situation where all the social media channels only allowed links to and comments from the Tory Party and media outlets that supported them and banned the Labour party and any media outlet that supported them. Or vice versa. Would that be acceptable given billions of people worldwide use social media to find information and links to information.


All sites like twitter/facebook/youtube etc should ban ALL political material, it was supposed to be used for our enjoyment and to be able to communicate with friends and family etc, youtube was suppose to be about making your own content, it didn't start up being about making money, it was only when they brought in ad sense it all went to pot. everyone with ads on their vids soon became "sell out shills", it allowed clowns like Jones to beat off any competition and spew his filth.

The MSM should not be allowed to get people thrown off either, it should have nothing to do with politics and agendas. Who can remember watching stuff like saw parodies on youtube? where there was no political agenda and no social agenda, just people having a laugh and making vids. Why were CNN/BBC ever allowed to have news channels on there? they should be rejected and told its not a platform for spreading fear/propaganda, same goes for people like Tommy Robinson and Alex Jones, f*** off and go and spew ya bile on your own sites, which they have btw, so there's no need to use "social media".

Report Injera August 7, 2018 4:47 PM BST
'Je Suis Charlie' didn't last long.

I see Boris has been told to apologise for his use of free speech too.
Report trilby22 August 7, 2018 4:48 PM BST
https://www.westmonster.com/dorries-defends-boris-burka-comments-as-tory-chairman-calls-for-apology/
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Report edy August 7, 2018 4:49 PM BST
free speech was never about any random clown just spouting any random nonsense without other random clowns being allowed to tell them their opinion is crap.
Report trilby22 August 7, 2018 4:50 PM BST
https://www.westmonster.com/farage-concerted-effort-of-social-media-censorship-is-underway-need-bill-of-rights/
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Report terry mccann August 7, 2018 5:00 PM BST
So he makes the mistake of giving some "facts" then what happens? the other bloke then starts to argue about said facts so what would be the bloody point,its like banging yer head against a cell tower
Report Injera August 7, 2018 5:17 PM BST
So the only people who can't laugh at themselves are Muslims???

Of course the women look like bankrobbers AND Darth Vaders. And yes they do resemble letter boxes.

If Islam cries foul everytime, (see Rushdie, Charlie Ebdo), it will dominate us. Anyone you can't criticise, has the power.
Report edy August 7, 2018 5:29 PM BST
Brandon Lewis, at first sight, doesn't sound particularly muslim to me. Bit of, no not just a bit actually, a warped view either way if you seriously think you can not critisize Islam and elements of it. Islam is being attacked and critisized all the time, more than anything else.

That some muslims choose to then disagree, is perfectly within their own freedom of speech. Just like you and lfc are always up in arms when I give a realistic assessment on Christianity.
Report Injera August 7, 2018 5:33 PM BST
When have you ever heard the MSM criticise Mohammed's teachings in the Hadiths?
Report edy August 7, 2018 5:48 PM BST
I've seen extensive interviews with prominent islam critic Hamed Abdel-Samad and long excerpts from his books in them, among interviews with other critics or liberal muslims that heavily critisize the fundamentalist/traditionalist version (and this of course is always an automatic criticism towards the e.g misogynistic parts of qu'ran and the hadiths). I've also seen them correct the picture by not taking things out of context.
Report edy August 7, 2018 5:52 PM BST
Also recently saw the main stream media suggest that women in niqabs look like letter boxes.
Report Injera August 7, 2018 5:54 PM BST
That's great edy. No turning back now. The country is awake.
Report edy August 7, 2018 5:55 PM BST
Was the real feminists march a splendid experience for you?
Report Injera August 7, 2018 6:06 PM BST
Aug 20th edy.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:10 PM BST
Boris Johnson, is 100% correct and entitled to his opinion about a violent cult that dresses like extras off a horror film.
Report edy August 7, 2018 6:13 PM BST
Was talking about the one on June 23rd you invited me over to initially before you found out about my shocking secret that changed everything.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:13 PM BST
...all you need to know is Labour's disgusting Bradford Mp Naz Shah a racist jewish hating rape gang defenders opinion...she retweeted that rape vicitms should shut their mouths for the good of diversity, of course she recentley got a promotion in the disgraceful Labour party..

She has called for Boris sacking of course, but was fully behind the rape of 1000s of white girls, TAKE THAT IN...
Report trilby22 August 7, 2018 6:30 PM BST
What a piece of work that wee piggy is …

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naz_Shah
Report trilby22 August 7, 2018 6:31 PM BST
She's in for as long as she wants though … Bradford West Majority 21,902 (48.1%)
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:36 PM BST
^^^ Yep and the future that Edy's ilk are encouraging and allowing, she is a disgusting racist plain for all to see, but she supports Islam so hey s'aul goodman!!
Report edy August 7, 2018 6:37 PM BST
dori, contrary to what you obviously believe, you fantasies don't become true if you repeat them often enough. Good to see you preserve a bit of your dreamful inner child though.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:40 PM BST
In August 2017, Shah retweeted and liked a tweet from an Owen Jones parody account which read: "Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity".

In April 2016, Shah was suspended from the Labour Party following a controversy regarding antisemitism. The suspension was overturned and she was reinstated in July 2016[5][6] following her apology.

In July 2018, she was appointed Shadow Secretary of State for Women and Equalities. SIMPLY WTF, promoted!?!?!? just this one article should be enough for anyone never to vote Labour again, of course most people don't know about her, simply disgusting.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:41 PM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 6:37PM, edy wrote:


dori, contrary to what you obviously believe, you fantasies don't become true if you repeat them often enough. Good to see you preserve a bit of your dreamful inner child though.


Yeah and your constant lies and sweep the facts under the carpet is why you appeasers are destroying your country and mine, more facts above you arrogant imbecile.

Report edy August 7, 2018 6:41 PM BST
My constant lies none of which you coincidentally would be able to point out.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:43 PM BST
more fantasies and facts for you...

Following Winnie Madikizela-Mandela's death in April 2018, Shah paid tribute to her on Twitter by tweeting an image with Mandela's quote: "Together, hand in hand, with our matches and our necklaces, we shall liberate this country."[47] The practice of necklacing is the summary execution and torture carried out by forcing a rubber tyre, filled with petrol, around a victim's chest and arms, and setting it on fire. Shah later deleted the tweet without comment
Report edy August 7, 2018 6:44 PM BST
By fantasies I was talking about the things you suggested me to be as that obviously wasn't clear enough for you, my lil adorable Yorkie.
Report edy August 7, 2018 6:47 PM BST
Though you do in general spread a lot of fantasies about all sorts of stuff, we both know that.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:49 PM BST
So 40 mins from where I live a muslim mp shows her obvious views towards young white girls been raped by muslim gangs and covered up, plus obv anti-jew and more, yet can win by a landslide and get promoted in the labour party. Scary and obv where the future of England is going, some like Edy obv don't care, Boris Johnson a hero not to apologise as this is a very fast slope the country is going down.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:50 PM BST
Just the FACTS her my lil adorable Germie.
Report edy August 7, 2018 6:51 PM BST
You really missed a trick there by going with Germie instead of Germ.
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 6:52 PM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 6:51PM, edy wrote:


You really missed a trick there by going with Germie instead of Germ.


I thought about it but didn't want to be offensive Excited

Report edy August 7, 2018 6:53 PM BST
Disappointing. Stop being so darn politically correct.
Report edy August 7, 2018 6:56 PM BST
I miss the good old multi-hour mudslinging, but in reality good natured and friendly, banter with you, man. Brings a tear to my eyes that I'm important to you anymore for you to engage me like you used to.
Report edy August 7, 2018 6:56 PM BST
*that I'm not important enough to you anymore
Report doridoru August 7, 2018 7:09 PM BST
Laugh
Report lfc1971 August 7, 2018 7:49 PM BST
edy just for reference , I think Islam is worse than atheism , and atheism is worse then Christianity
So there is no point necessarily in you defending pleading the case for atheism instead of Christianity
Especially if it is English Christianity
Ok ?
Report moisok August 7, 2018 7:52 PM BST
a german telling us what to do

his is the country that has helped hand a big problem to europe

doesnt even live here
Report moisok August 7, 2018 7:54 PM BST
It's a man's world.
Report northanlite August 7, 2018 10:17 PM BST
kinda mixed messages when you look at Alex Jones's own sites T&C'sSilly

Terms of Service. "It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe.
Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 10:28 PM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 10:17PM, northanlite wrote:


kinda mixed messages when you look at Alex Jones's own sites T&C'sTerms of Service. "It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe.


He also gets people to sign none disclosure agreements as well Plain

None exactly for free speech is he

Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 10:32 PM BST
I cannot believe he's even got the front to try and spin this as "censorship", he signed up to Facebooks, youtubes, twitters T&Cs, meaning he was a customer not the owner, he had to abide to rules

The man is a grade A k**b
Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 10:38 PM BST
Infowars headline

"donald trump jr reacts to infowars censorship, really about purging all conservative media"

Laugh

He does realise he isn't a media establishment on youtube etc doesn't he? his website yes because he owns it, no one is stopping him from pushing out his views on his own platform, we all have the power to make a website and use it as we see fit, but on youtube you are "signing up"

The bloke is unbelievable
Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 10:45 PM BST
Just been on his website and he's been live streaming all day without problems Laugh

Even got a live feed going off updating every few minutes

He's number 4 on news apps as well, so the big question is, how is he being "gagged"

ConfusedConfused
Report timbuctooth August 7, 2018 10:49 PM BST
ss; so, the owner has the right to impose rules? And, if you don`t like it, `do one!`? You do know that that`s the very essence of Capitalism? As epitomised by The Don? I suppose such tying of oneself in knots of confusion goes with leftieism?
Report northanlite August 7, 2018 10:52 PM BST
^ you should read your posts out loud before you hit reply.
Report SontaranStratagem August 7, 2018 10:54 PM BST
Here we go I've been called a "leftist" again Laugh

Jones has been in breach of the t&cs for a good while now, he's been using someone elses platform to spew his rubbish and they've decided he's got to go, its entirely up to them what they do with their own platform

Jones website is constantly banning people from the comment sections because of what he deems "hate speech", again he's well within his rights as its his website, but he's mouthing off because another company has decided to do the same?
Report aaronh August 8, 2018 5:01 AM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 10:38PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Infowars headline "donald trump jr reacts to infowars censorship, really about purging all conservative media"He does realise he isn't a media establishment on youtube etc doesn't he? his website yes because he owns it, no one is stopping him from pushing out his views on his own platform, we all have the power to make a website and use it as we see fit, but on youtube you are "signing up"The bloke is unbelievable


It's weird that right wing/conservative media was fine and having no problems until these toxic ****s came along

Report aaronh August 8, 2018 5:09 AM BST

Aug 7, 2018 -- 10:54PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Here we go I've been called a "leftist" again Jones has been in breach of the t&cs for a good while now, he's been using someone elses platform to spew his rubbish and they've decided he's got to go, its entirely up to them what they do with their own platform Jones website is constantly banning people from the comment sections because of what he deems "hate speech", again he's well within his rights as its his website, but he's mouthing off because another company has decided to do the same?


You should know that Tim, because of his centrist leanings, comes from a position of no bias when he calls you a leftie

Report lfc1971 August 8, 2018 7:50 AM BST
He might be , who does he vote for ?
Report John.W.Henry. August 8, 2018 8:16 AM BST
dyno-layer
dyno-layer 07 Aug 18 14:50 Joined: 05 Jun 03 | Topic/replies: 763 | Blogger: dyno-layer's blog
https://wolfclanentertainment.com/911-alchemy


Well that video was a real eye opener. I hadn't come across that before. I would be interested in watching anything which highlights events prior to that day if you can help ?
Report aaronh August 8, 2018 8:16 AM BST
I'm fairly certain that he will not be putting an X in the box of his local Labour, Lib Dem or Green candidate next time round Happy
Report nellie1970 August 8, 2018 10:29 AM BST
why has apple took jones off one platform and left him on another?i do not get that
Report John.W.Henry. August 8, 2018 3:14 PM BST
Dyno ?
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