Analysis of standard, typical politico thread on here:

unless it was intended as a sort of insult, eh?

On this forum everyone not in agreement with all aspects of topics ranging from the ubiquitous Tommy Robinson to Donald Trump, via a bit of slating Corbyn, is a "leftie" or "Libtard"
Look at who starts threads, at who starts the insulting and what for the disagreements take.

Not what you perceive them to be. Just have a look. It's all there to be seen. I just detailed ONE thread.

It isn't all of them, nor is it ALWAYS the case. Just mostly.

Oh and in case someone picks me up on it, I realise I spelt non sequitur incorrectly.

Here we see an example of the warped nature of Studyforms way of looking at things
Anyone who looks can see that right from the very first post by A -T, and continued by himself and all the other leftists the nature of their replies and comments were abusive on a personal level to other posters

That was the nature of their posts , almost all of them

Studyform not only is your ‘analysis’ warped it is also dishonest

You said you would look at the first comments of every person ( of course that is a nonsense )
But when you looked at Jed. davisons first comment you found it to be a perfectly reasonable and polite question
so you decided not to say that was the case didn’t you ?

And of course Yuu didn’t mention your rude reply to that reasonable and polite question either

Interesting op...have to say hadn't got you down as a leftie Studyform as our views seem to coincide on the need for the Government and Judiciary to grow some balls in their response to criminality.

It doesn’t matter if Studyform is left or right , the thread wasn’t about him

lfc.
you are mad, deluded and very, very stupid and as always almost entirely wrong.
As ever you have chosen not to read it properly.

A_T was reacting to rudeness (as I am now)
The opening post of the thread was divisive badly written garbage, so I really think that those disagreeing with it were quite restrained.
I posted what actually happened, therefore any deviation is in your head.

Jed's 1st question was in fact mentioned as being direct, my reply wasn't insulting, just diect and I then qualified it.
Not that this is the subject of the thread.
You can interpret the rest in whatever strange little way falls out of your computer.

As for being dishonest; f*ck off.
And, as for all the "lefties" they're outnumbered about 3 or 4 to 1.
You have chosen to ignore the tenet of my post because it doesn't suit you.

Posy, I'm not of any direction, I just like to see fairness and I'm sure our views coincide on lots of things. It's just that the forum direction, and agenda, has now given every contributor a label, but compared to many of the users I'm Karl Marx.

Sorry study A-T was rude on a personal level to op , that was the very first response

You didn’t say that jeds first post was reasonable and polite did you , you’re being dishonest again
You said it was followed by insults

Now that is just one example , I could go through almost everything you have said and find it to be similarly dishonest
That’s too bad , but is illustrative of the problems pointed out by the poster on the original thread

SF in no way was that thread A standard, typical political thread on here.
I thought it a thread to provoke indignation from the left and it certainly did that.
Please note I have neither backed or condemned the comments before you attack me.
As regards this thread then all I'd say is ffs reel yer neck in.

I've just read you're comments on those considered as lefties.
Feckin embarrassing tbh. Or are you doing what you say you despise and fishing?

I wouldn't suggest you had, akabula. you missed this one yesterday.

Great thread though... 20 something people got a reaction from 5 people.
2 of those only (listed as left) only posted once and weren't rude.

All I've written stands. I'm not "attacking anyone".

You can interpret it how you like... Oh, you are!

If you read the actual thread and see the opening posts of all the people on it you'll see what I've said is accurate.
OR, you could just decide you don't like how it looks and tell me I'm inventing it.

Ah what was rude about my first post study ? ( I may have been rude later I don’t think so can’t temember )

What's happening here, is that you are reading stuff on here in the same way you always do, and what/who you basically agree with gets ignored.

I didn't say you were rude lfc, I said you posted a non sequitur.

Point proved, I think.

What you said is innacurate as per your norm.
You find a reason to justify anything from those posters you agree with the opposite for those you disagree with.
Hypocrisy in it's finest form.

Bollocxk

You said 2 of those listed on the left were not rude

Did those 2 include me ?

You two can go and do things on your own now, my point is made, and proved.
I'm analysing it no further. If you don't agree then tough.

lfc, you make no sense and are now becoming mildly irritating and I have work to do.

Now you’re being rude again

Oh last thing, I'll wager you're kicking yourself you missed this thread yesterday akabula.

[i]You two can go and do things on your own now, my point is made, and proved.[/i]

Really laughing out loud at that. SF at the wind-up and fishing.

My point is made reminds of Trigger and his defence of Daphne in Crossroads.

Have just had a quick look at that thread and at no point did I say anything rude to anyone as far as I can see , who would have believed it from study’s ‘analysis’

Studyform you in the other hand were very rude

I was on yesterday SF and chose to ignore it.
You on the other hand bite like the fish in the Minch on a Saturday morning.

Aug 6, 2018 -- 9:49AM, lfc1971 wrote:

Have just had a quick look at that thread and at no point did I say anything rude to anyone as far as I can see , who would have believed it from study’s ‘analysis’Studyform you in the other hand were very rude

for the last time... ffs, do you read anything?
I never said you were rude, lfc... it is PLAINLY AND CLEARLY WRITTEN ABOVE... I said you used a non sequitur.
which I repeated 20 minutes ago.

Yes and as I said you stated that only 2 people on the right were not rude
Did that include me or not ?

Name them and shame them study , I think we can all agree that you were rude

Just fecking read the opening post on this thread, you idiot.
(there, that's rude - but justified)

disgraceful language from yourself study , you should be ashamed
Well you wee worse yesterday in that thread , that’s plain for anyone to see

Every time SF is rude he says it's justified.
BTW is that your 3rd or 4th post since you said you'd be commenting no more?
Try not to be rude when replying please, I'm easily offended.

politeness is a delight for civilised people aka

STUDYFORM –

So, opposing an ideology (Islam) that is by any reasonable standard truly (ultra) right wing somehow, wait for it…  situates you as being right wing? Of all the dumb, bizarre non sequiturs you’ve posted, and believe me there have been quite a few, that is just about the dumbest. This an issue (protecting the sovereignty of the individual) that transcends such a simplistic notion and is testimony to your general cluelessness and MSM inflected way of engaging with the world.  One can only presume  all that Post-Structuralist flim flam you’ve been spoon fed at Unee has finally blown your entire mechanism. And for that reason i’m out. I wish you well with the Alan Partridge-esq chit chat pie chart. Good luck.

Right I'm off out so I'll get your reply, rude or otherwise, later.

Aug 6, 2018 -- 10:07AM, lux wrote:

STUDYFORM – So, opposing an ideology (Islam) that is by any reasonable standard truly (ultra) right wing somehow, wait for it…  situates you as being right wing? Of all the dumb, bizarre non sequiturs you’ve posted, and believe me there have been quite a few, that is just about the dumbest. This an issue (protecting the sovereignty of the individual) that transcends such a simplistic notion and is testimony to your general cluelessness and MSM inflected way of engaging with the world.  One can only presume  all that Post-Structuralist flim flam you’ve been spoon fed at Unee has finally blown your entire mechanism. And for that reason i’m out. I wish you well with the Alan Partridge-esq chit chat pie chart. Good luck.

It's not just simple opposition to Islam. I've voiced repeatedly and openly, more openly than many others actually, that we need to get rid of the oppression that Christianity and Islam put on our societies, and thankfully humanity is slowly but surely moving away from all that vile fantasy stuff, yet I've been called everything from a rape gang supporter, to a traitor, to a libtard, a leftist, a quisling etc. mostly for, as STUDYFORM pointed out too, than not entirely going along with the exact message and opinion of certain others.

There's guys on here, and in general among this new wave of social media trained wannabe conservative bullshitters, that are keen to turn any slightly different opinion to theirs into you supporting terrorism, or rape gangs, making you a traitor etc. Not sure why exactly. I guess it's easier to rile up your gang if you just make it out like your "opponents" have all the darndest ideas and all support the darndest things that need to be fought against at all costs.

So, I never said you were rude then lfc?
did I?
But you won, you kept chipping away until I have to remind you how stupid you are.
Just deflect, ignore and then not answer. Oh and you could try looking at your initial posts on here when - unprompted - you called me; dishonest, warped and criticised everything I'd written

lux. You posted a complete load of garbled BS about Tommy Robinson/muslims, and only returned once to post more - your only task was to spread the word.
Now you say it's all about opposing an ideology. Yeah, right. I think it's probably fair to describe this ideology as a religion, but that doesn't get the same impact or make you able to play down the agenda so well, does it?.
Post-Structuralist? WTF is Post-Structuralist? Did you learn that in GCSE sociology?

I didn't go to "unee", I have no idea what MSM is, no matter how many times I see it mentioned on here.

One of the most outright dishonest things about supporters of far-right propaganda and ideology, is the outright denial that it is "right-wing" and that is because you think it will gain sympathetic views if you claim to be "Socialist".
Twas ever thus.
BNP, Britain First, National front, and now EDL. All tiny insignificant gatherings often formed from football terraces and often containing violent offenders. They all claim to be NOT right wing, they all claim to be peaceable (it's the opposition who are violent), they all have very little by way of manifesto.
And now, they all use social media and forums to spread the gospel.

To add one more thing to my previous post.

Ironically enough, the very same people that regularly use those debate killer phrases on their "opponents" like "rape gang supporter" or other similar stuff in a blatantly obvious attempt to make them shut up and control the speech patterns and debate, then five minutes later claim their "opponents" are opposed to free speech.

now let’s take another little look at Study’s analysis of the lefts comments

Next one down from A-T ( who was immediately rude ) is dave 1537
His first comment was does no one ask why white working class parents fail their children

Now everyone knows that in the modern work it is very difficult for any parent to look after and protect their children
It depends on the good values of others in the rest of the world
But daves post seems to want to demonise the victims and has undertones of racism and a sneering condescension towards these people and their families

And study’s assessment of daves post ? ..
A fair question

Well that may be so in the case of study’s mind , and daves
and others who posted on that thread

That tells you a lot right there

Dave and his like have no empathy and you can see that time again in his posts,a dodgepot,avoid!

STUDYFORM falls into his own trap by doing himself exactly what he is criticising. Which is discussing personalities instead of policies.

A prize plum if there ever was one.

As for my ''direct insult.'' he mentioned.

That was in reply to insults from STUDYFORM where he referred to people as Nazis.

I merely pointed out an obvious Nazi trait in STUDYFORM's political makeup.

edy    06 Aug 18 10:25 
Aug 6, 2018 -- 10:07AM, lux wrote:

It's not just simple opposition to Islam. I've voiced repeatedly and openly, more openly than many others actually, that we need to get rid of the oppression that Christianity and Islam put on our societies, and thankfully humanity is slowly but surely moving away from all that vile fantasy stuff.

.................


The world would probably be better with no religions. As for society moving away from them, the one that causes death and destruction round the world on a daily basis is the one that is increasing it's number year on year. Sitting back and hoping that they will eventually change their behaviour while other religions fade away, is to gamble with our whole society, there is every chance we will lose.

No Crippen. You're lying, or deluded, more likely both
You had written nothing on the thread.
I mention Nazis, You insult me. Directly.
You never miss a chance to have a pop do you?
Makes you every bit the person (?) I say you are.

Or do you always do your insulting on behalf of others?
Like the minimum 90% wrong fool that you are.


lfc. You are a (insert any load of swearing you can think of here).

You had written nothing on the thread.

Never said I had.
This is what I wrote:

That was in reply to insults from STUDYFORM where he referred to people as Nazis.

So you see STUDYFORM, you are wrong again.

Tell me STUDYFORM - why are you always wrong?

Studyform having “no idea” what MSM means doesn’t bode well for his chances of “knowing more about nearly everything” competition against Jed.

Made me laugh that.

Edy

But humanity, at least in the west is not “slowly but surely moving away from all that vile and fantasy stuff” on the contrary, an increasing Islamic population necessitates its sinking deeper into that particular mire and that is the problem.

I think it’s unfair to draw some kind of equivalency between Christianity and Islam.  The worst excesses of Christianity have long since been disavowed by the majority of Christians wordlwide, the same cannot be said for Islam whose texts remain the perfect immutable word of God and whose followers continue to act out its worst excesses every single day. Islam is a religion, yes, but there are religions and religions... and Islam can be most accurately described as a totalitarian ideology that seeks to control every aspect of your life. One that is completely inimical to western values. A cursory glance at any major poll of the attitudes of British Muslims taken over the past 10 years demonstrates this quite clearly.

Studyform

In a liberal western democracy we should be free to criticise Islam without fear of being labelled all kinds of language devaluing nonsense like Islamophobe, fascist, nazi etc. As i’ve said before it is an idea and like any idea should be fair game for an open and honest discussion. Denying such a fundamental democratic principle, seeking to somehow Police and control language, is to be an advocate of true fascism and tyrrany. If in your distorted, bonkers, view of the world that somehow makes me a proponent of far right ideology then i’ll quite happily wear that badge with pride.

Also, he claimed to have never heard of Tommy Robinson...

Also interesting to note Studyform’s appraisal of his buddy Dave1357’s first post on the other thread. You know, the one where Dave responded to a post about muslim men grooming and sexually abusing children by questioning the parenting skills of white parents! Clearly a deeply offensive and repugnant comment to most decent minded people, not to mention the rank hypocrisy of someone who seldom tires of accusing others of “”whataboutery.”

Studyform’s take on that disgusting post? “A fair question.”

And that, ladies and gentlemen of the Chit Chat forum, should tell you all you need to know about Studyform, Dave1357, and the rest of the lefty liberal crew on here.

But humanity, at least in the west is not “slowly but surely moving away from all that vile and fantasy stuff” on the contrary, an increasing Islamic population necessitates its sinking deeper into that particular mire and that is the problem.

An increasing number doesn't really mean the world isn't moving away from religion overall. There is an undeniable overall trend towards westernisation in the muslim world.

I think it’s unfair to draw some kind of equivalency between Christianity and Islam.

No, it isn't unfair at all and Christianity is also most accurately described as a totalitarian ideology that seeks to control every aspect of life. The difference is simply that we have freed ourselves from their shackles to a bigger degree and with it forced the religion and their leaders to be just a little bit more acceptable and less oppressive if they want to stay in our lives in any capacity.

I think you will find that it is Christians who have allowed you the freedoms we enjoy in Britain and in other countries
Other religions and other societies are not so tolerant
We don’t have to look far to se the dangers from people and from countries with an atheist ideology

Now if and when those countries are as tolerant and free as Britain then fine
Come back and let us know

The division between church and state within christianity "render unto Caeser ...etc" which ushered in a reformation holds no parallel within Islam. Islam is fundamentally incapable of reform, it is the immutable word of God.

Aug 6, 2018 -- 2:27PM, Torquemada wrote:

Studyform having “no idea” what MSM means doesn’t bode well for his chances of “knowing more about nearly everything” competition against Jed. Made me laugh that.

That's a point I wouldn't have scored then isn't it.

Come on group of fanboys, there aren't enough of you cuddling each other yet!

Torquemada, The only insults directed at other users began, precisely where I sad it did.
and still it continues. You have no other way.

Timbuctooth, when you were in school did you go and report other kids to the teacher a lot to try getting them in trouble?
You're a bit of a weasel. Lots of little snide digs and remarks trying to make friends and a fair bit of trolling to wind people up.

Lux, I haven't said a single word in praise of that which you so adamantly rail against, like every other bellend on here, you invent opposition.
Your entire thread (the one this is about), was based on that premise.

As I've said so many times, but it would quell all the shiit you all wallow in... No-one ever argues, they just point out where you are going OTT.
This creates the opposition you crave and get little stiffies over.

Lux, what is it you want?
Stop interacting with all muslims?
Convert them all?
Send the all to somewhere else?

What is it you're trying to achieve?

lux, there are so many different denominations in islam one can't even count, all of them being the result of reforms and influences. The young, increasingly westernised populations in the muslim countries will increasingly take over as the old yesteryears keep dying off.

Well it’s like this, they are in Britain
But the question remains why ?

It is the young who are committing the atrocities

Aug 6, 2018 -- 2:13PM, Dr Crippen wrote:

You had written nothing on the thread. Never said I had.This is what I wrote:That was in reply to insults from STUDYFORM where he referred to people as Nazis.So you see STUDYFORM, you are wrong again.Tell me STUDYFORM - why are you always wrong?

I completely understood what you wrote.
My point, not that you are capable of even simple understanding, was that, I addressed no-one specifically, and if I had, it would have been previous posters, you weren't one - you joined the thread to address me with an insult. Because that's the kind of person you are.
What are you, the guardian of all I write which needs a telling response?
I don't think you are. You're just a (insert a few suitable swear words here)

It is almost always young men , and older , they did the same thing under communism and fascism
Nothing much changes , it is very difficult to create a peaceful and free society
That is what we have been lucky to have in Britain , but it is not the norm , look around

I know men suck, lfc. That isn't news. I'm convinced that men are able to reform though and we, as men, are slowly progressing.

No we are not slowly progressing , not at all

Oh we are. Men as a whole are smarter and better behaved then ever before. No matter what the geezers claim.

Really , name me someone smart in Britain

Caucher Birkar

I’ve never heard of him , what has he done again ?

Won the fields medal this year.

I know there are intelligent people edy , but are they as intelligent , or more do as you claim than in our past
Well the evidence is not there that they are
They may be , any examples

Medals are fine , what has he achieved
Now say what you will Britain has a glorious past of intelligent people
Hundreds, thousands of them

And we now live in the country that they created
Not us , they created it
Be thankful

The average man is much more educated and with it much, much, much, much more civilised than in days gone by, there just isn't any denying.

ok

Just think back to all the brutal rascals that kept beating you lean, tiny nerd up.

Didn't happen to me and I was the most whimsical, leanest nerd one could ever imagine.

and you guys always used to punch each other just for the sake of it

People obviously possess more knowledge in today’s modern world, but it could be argued that we are not more intelligent than our predecessors. Who today is more intelligent than Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein for example? Certainly some very intelligent people who are standing on the shoulders of past giants, but none of them with superior intelligence IMO.

I wouldn't necessarily disagree that we currently don't have such peak geniuses. At least they certainly don't stand out as much. The broad over male population however, is no doubt better educated and civilised.

*broad overall

lfc1971 & Torquemada, hay foot, straw foot.

Yes all these gifted people in Britain are really there , but they are just hiding
I suppose anythings possible

We don’t know who they are , no one across the world can name them

You gotta admit that Crispr is pretty darn cool.

Something seems to be missing from edys chain that we are more intelligent than in the past
Evidence , where are the books, where is the music , where are the new inventions , where are the new ideas that make us see the world in a different way
Such as Newton and Shakespeare and Einstein and the Wright brothers and Darwin and Bruce Springsteen
I don’t know

Those are people who we can name , because of things they have done
The evidence is there, in black and white

Russian hooligans are making fun of European hooligans for having become soft. That is all the proof anyone should ever need that we are moving our societies towards being more educated and well behaved.

I'm sorry to hear you don't like modern literature, music and the many recent-ish inventions you are using extensively every day though.

There have been no new inventions for 30 or 40 years
Bill gates and Steve Wozniak are old men now

I like modern music , but you see the electric guitar was invented in the 1930s / 40s

That’s a pretty cool thing right there , agreed?

Electric guitars are just tools to foster sin and decadence. The real cool stuff like the CRISPR/Cas genome editing method is recent and where it's at.

Anything like that recently that started a musical revolution that touched everyone , or the computer revolution started by 3 or 4 young men in California 40 years ago ?

I don’t know , something seems like it is missing
Where are all these talented and intelligent people that edy claims exist
Who are they , show me the evidence
Good

Anyone see Boris's comments today?! He's referred to Muslims in full veeils as looking like letter boxes!

Must have a forum name shirley.

I certainly don't agree with the so called lefties on here but I'd take a bullet for their right to hold their opinions.

There is no automatic right to hold opinions , it depends on what those opinions are

It’s a question of judgement line everything else
In Britain we have been lucky to find ourselves in a country that has come to as good and fair and democratic a society as has ever existed
But that is thanks to people before us

Studyform

You start by labelling TR as nationalistic shoite, likening him to hitler and concluding that “anybody who doesn’t love him must be a supporter of pakistani rapists”

all of which doesn’t follow and is patently bollocks ...

You then go on to liken the EDL (single-issue movement opposed to Islamism) to other more distinctly racist organisations (the quintessential MSM tactic)

more bollocks ...

I then explain my position (essentially the same as TR) defending the sovereignty of the individual etc to which you reply that “One of the most outright dishonest things about supporters of far-right propaganda and ideology, is the outright denial that it is right-wing and that is because you think it will gain sympathetic views if you claim to be "Socialist".

implying my position is as you suggest … biggest pile of bollocks...

In answer to your questions what is it I want? I’ve already made that very clear (see above) but to elaborate .. i’d like to live in a society where the establishment, police, judiciary and media etc aren’t complicit in this cowardly condascending and racist patronage of those who in the view of the original post “are above or beneath” criticism.

Muslims are the primary victims of all this stuff and nonsense and i’m certainly not going to condemn somebody over an accident of birth. You should be free to believe whatever BS you like but don’t impose it on anyone else and don’t expect me to bend over backwards to accommodate you with a different set of standards.

You dismissed my comment about Post structuralism but it is absolutely fundamental to understanding this issue. Over the previous few decades its rancid propogation within the education system and consequently the establishment has led to the deep seated belief that the validity of a view or position is entirely dependent upon the proponents position in a condascending hierarchy of intersectionality. More simply, if you possess “white privilege” then you should feel nothing but guilt and your opinion is worthless. Hence the muddle we now find ourselves in.


I have a question for you, what did you make of the Lauren Southern Luton incident?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxjH5hZYTbQ


Not around much today so doubt i'll be able to reply

Studyform

You start by labelling TR as nationalistic shoite, likening him to hitler and concluding that “anybody who doesn’t love him must be a supporter of pakistani rapists”

all of which doesn’t follow and is patently bollocks ...

You then go on to liken the EDL (single-issue movement opposed to Islamism) to other more distinctly racist organisations (the quintessential MSM tactic)

more bollocks ...

I then explain my position (essentially the same as TR) defending the sovereignty of the individual etc to which you reply that “One of the most outright dishonest things about supporters of far-right propaganda and ideology, is the outright denial that it is right-wing and that is because you think it will gain sympathetic views if you claim to be "Socialist".

implying my position is as you suggest … biggest pile of bollocks...

In answer to your questions what is it I want? I’ve already made that very clear (see above) but to elaborate .. i’d like to live in a society where the establishment, police, judiciary and media etc aren’t complicit in this cowardly condascending and racist patronage of those who in the view of the original post “are above or beneath” criticism.

Muslims are the primary victims of all this stuff and nonsense and i’m certainly not going to condemn somebody over an accident of birth. You should be free to believe whatever BS you like but don’t impose it on anyone else and don’t expect me to bend over backwards to accommodate you with a different set of standards.

You dismissed my comment about Post structuralism but it is absolutely fundamental to understanding this issue. Over the previous few decades its rancid propogation within the education system and consequently the establishment has led to the deep seated belief that the validity of a view or position is entirely dependent upon the proponents position in a condascending hierarchy of intersectionality. More simply, if you possess “white privilege” then you should feel nothing but guilt and your opinion is worthless. Hence the muddle we now find ourselves in.


I have a question for you, what did you make of the Lauren Southern Luton incident?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxjH5hZYTbQ


Not around much today so doubt i'll be able to reply

Studyform

You start by labelling TR as nationalistic shoite, likening him to hitler and concluding that “anybody who doesn’t love him must be a supporter of pakistani rapists”

all of which doesn’t follow and is patently bollocks ...

You then go on to liken the EDL (single-issue movement opposed to Islamism) to other more distinctly racist organisations (the quintessential MSM tactic)

more bollocks ...

I then explain my position (essentially the same as TR) defending the sovereignty of the individual etc to which you reply that “One of the most outright dishonest things about supporters of far-right propaganda and ideology, is the outright denial that it is right-wing and that is because you think it will gain sympathetic views if you claim to be "Socialist".

implying my position is as you suggest … biggest pile of bollocks...

In answer to your questions what is it I want? I’ve already made that very clear (see above) but to elaborate .. i’d like to live in a society where the establishment, police, judiciary and media etc aren’t complicit in this cowardly condascending and racist patronage of those who in the view of the original post “are above or beneath” criticism.

Muslims are the primary victims of all this stuff and nonsense and i’m certainly not going to condemn somebody over an accident of birth. You should be free to believe whatever BS you like but don’t impose it on anyone else and don’t expect me to bend over backwards to accommodate you with a different set of standards.

You dismissed my comment about Post structuralism but it is absolutely fundamental to understanding this issue. Over the previous few decades its rancid propogation within the education system and consequently the establishment has led to the deep seated belief that the validity of a view or position is entirely dependent upon the proponents position in a condascending hierarchy of intersectionality. More simply, if you possess “white privilege” then you should feel nothing but guilt and your opinion is worthless. Hence the muddle we now find ourselves in.


I have a question for you, what did you make of the Lauren Southern Luton incident?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxjH5hZYTbQ


Not around much today so doubt i'll be able to reply

No we are not slowly progressing , not at all

Correct, it's technology that improves and advances not human behaviour.

We kill with bullets and bombs now instead of swords and arrows, and we do it on an industrial scale.
Witness the devastation caused by the civilised West recently in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. The on going conflict in Palestine. The sight of Iraq and North Korea developing their nuclear weapons. Africa with all their wars, which are hardly reported by the way.
Squaring up to Russia at every opportunity.

The main reason Europe has maintained peace since WW2 is because we carved up Germany, and stationed troops there.
Now after reunification, the German Empire in the form of the EU is looking to have it's own army again.

And we're supposed to be getting better?

What he's applauding is that we're letting ourselves in Europe get overrun by ethnic groups, that's what many on the left view as progress.

Studyform that was not an insult ,that was an observation from someone who for the majority of his life was a union member, canvassed for t h e local party and is the son of a miner ,who has seen the internal workings of the Labour party, You seem a sensitive wee soul and prone to bouts of faux outrage, The left are vermin.

When I started coming to chit chat 2 years ago, I had no clue what left, right, conservative, liberal and other similar terms meant. I was quite p1ssed when every issue was basically blamed on one of those labels. and I could not get anyone to actually talk about any issue instead of just blaming one of the label for their problems.

It hasn't changed till today. Apparently people are happy playing around with those labels and the politicians even happier.

Does this way of thinking make me a labelist?

more nonsense from detraveller, I suppose he thinks he can sit and stand at the same time as well

thanks lfc