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kenny mann
04 Aug 18 16:04
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It's well known round here, that many of them drive like lunatics in their drugs funded luxury cars.

You won't have any sympathy when you watch the video.

https://metro.co.uk/video/crash-killed-four-bradford-caught-camera-1738666/
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Report moisok August 4, 2018 4:12 PM BST
it was when they said 4 MEN.......... to start off with
Report sixtwosix August 4, 2018 4:51 PM BST
Same in my town Kenny , and has been for many years .... so many affluent young man in top range cars........odd as the town is bottom of the deprivation chart in the country .not a word is said.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 5:07 PM BST
VOTES
Report Steve Voltage August 4, 2018 5:38 PM BST
So sad. The Lord moves in mysterious ways. So so sad Sad
Report Steve Voltage August 4, 2018 5:40 PM BST
Btw these young lads were English not Pakistanis. They had their whole lives in front of them. So sad Sad
Report Steve Voltage August 4, 2018 5:43 PM BST
He was just a happy little lad. He was so happy – he had friends everywhere. He was a polite and quiet lad.

‘I used to say to him, “Don’t stay out too long because you don’t want to be getting into trouble”.


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/08/03/footage-emerges-of-terrifying-bmw-crash-in-bradford-that-killed-four-men-7794591/amp/

Sad
Report Steve Voltage August 4, 2018 5:44 PM BST
The lads are great and very decent kids, very polite and were well known around these parts.

Sad
Report A_T August 4, 2018 5:47 PM BST
looks like the police were already in pursuit.

https://metro.co.uk/video/crash-killed-four-bradford-caught-camera-1738666/

on the same page: "The man with the 5-stone scrotum" Shocked
Report Knight Commander August 4, 2018 5:49 PM BST
Probably on their way to Rotherham for a bit of underage nooky Devil
Report moisok August 4, 2018 6:02 PM BST
the driving wasn't very nice or decent - they could have killed more
Report Dr Crippen August 4, 2018 6:03 PM BST
Let a young men drive high powered cars and what do you expect some of them to do?

We've all done it - well most of us anyway. With me it was motorbikes.
I still cringe when I think of some of the things I did.
We all laughed at my mate because his father wouldn't let him have a bike. I could see the reason when I got older.
Report Reynard August 4, 2018 6:04 PM BST
Hopefully nothing too serious , they're very resilient .
Report scaredmoney August 4, 2018 6:06 PM BST
Wonder why they were so keen to escape the attentions of the constabulary

Thank the lord there was no traffic coming in the opposite direction
Report moisok August 4, 2018 6:08 PM BST
scared!!!!

how dare you
they were decent and nice  - kindly leave the forumWink
Report Steve Voltage August 4, 2018 6:09 PM BST
Scardemoney it’s too early to ask those kind of questions. Thoughts and prayers are with the families st this sad sad time Sad
Report RLKingPunter August 4, 2018 6:11 PM BST
Wonder how many had passed a test , the car had a mot, and were insured . If the Driver had , then fair enough but somehow I doubt it ...
Report saddo August 4, 2018 6:22 PM BST
20 year olds tearing round in a week old BMW, aye.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 6:47 PM BST
Crippen you are spot on.
Although we also were motorbikes in the 60s

cars - almost unheard of in our street
Report Platini August 4, 2018 7:07 PM BST
25 should be the minimum age for (males) driving anything other than a milk float, imo.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 7:25 PM BST
in a society where certain elements have laws specially to protect them with the legal/pc defence they can use, plod won't go near any of the groups - they would lose their jobs if they did

it is so much directed by thought speak from the top via university education

doesn't matter about protecting the majority
Report JC1326 August 4, 2018 8:57 PM BST
Thankfully no kids or innocents were standing where that car landed
Report Reynard August 4, 2018 9:29 PM BST
JC1326 • August 4, 2018 8:57 PM BST
Thankfully no kids or innocents were standing where that car landed

Trees have feelings too Sad
Report posy August 4, 2018 10:12 PM BST
Four fewer louts/criminals to worry about ;still got hundreds of thousand to go. Don’t you just love it when they’re described as nice polite lads who love their gran
Report Ibrahima Sonko August 4, 2018 10:14 PM BST
Im surprised not one of them was a promising footballer.
Report crystalhunt August 4, 2018 10:23 PM BST
Thousands today attended their funerals

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6943094/bradford-crash-funerals-four-friends-k...
Report Steve Voltage August 4, 2018 10:23 PM BST
The one thing I know is that the diverse community of Bradford will pull together as they always have. Prayer and thoughts are with the families tonight. God bless them all.

Now is not the time to ask why these boys did not stop for the police or why they were out and about at 5:30 am. Now is the time for prayer for the families of these wonderful boys taken so cruelly. So sad Sad
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 10:29 PM BST
"They're not English,most of them live in litter strewn ghettos and most of them make no attempt to mix".

Still, if it makes you feel better, Kenny.
Report Steve Voltage August 4, 2018 10:30 PM BST
He said: “These are not old men that have gone, they didn’t have a heart attack, or diabetes, this wasn’t a natural death. Something happened, and it was written that they had to go.

Such wise sensitive words. So sad Sad
Report Jayco August 4, 2018 10:34 PM BST
They weren't been chased, just followed
Report akabula August 4, 2018 10:39 PM BST
Death by misadventure. One of lifes lessons. Could have lost control near pedestrians so was a blessing really.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 10:41 PM BST
shocking pictures of the funeral

the sign of things to come
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 10:42 PM BST
Steve - Why cut the quote?............He said:

“These are not old men that have gone, they didn’t have a heart attack, or diabetes, this wasn’t a natural death. Something happened, and it was written that they had to go. “For the parents, how must it feel right now - how can they put their 20-year-old in the ground? These young people, they had their whole life ahead. We can see what one moment of madness can do.” He added: “They had not lost a member of family, the whole community has - we’ve lost our brothers. This is becoming a regular occurrence, time and time again. “The whole of Bradford has been robbed. When are we going to realise, it’s life, the way they live it, we’ll keep losing them. As a community, we should step up - the truth is, we’ve failed. This life is nothing but a playground of deception. “Open your eyes, wake up Muslims of Bradford, we can’t let this happen again.”
Report moisok August 4, 2018 10:42 PM BST
the change continues
the demographic is on the march
Report moisok August 4, 2018 10:43 PM BST
good job it wasn't a female driver

they lock 'em up in saudi

STILL!!!
Report Jayco August 4, 2018 10:46 PM BST
They've been out nicking cars
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 10:48 PM BST
Life must be fun in the Moisok household.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 10:48 PM BST
no they haven't it is just 4 MEN  in a car you know it is when they initially report anything
Report GRANTCKING August 4, 2018 10:50 PM BST
if they were nice innocent young lads why did they try and evade the police car? lol
Report saddo August 4, 2018 10:54 PM BST
blackbarn    04 Aug 18 22:29 
"They're not English,most of them live in litter strewn ghettos and most of them make no attempt to mix".

Still, if it makes you feel better, Kenny.




You would not need many days in or around Bradford and many similar towns to know that Kenny is correct. You live in a wonderful part of the country Blackbarn. Be thankful.
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 10:57 PM BST
blackbarn • August 4, 2018 10:29 PM BST
"They're not English,most of them live in litter strewn ghettos and most of them make no attempt to mix".

Still, if it makes you feel better, Kenn
y.

What point are you trying to make Blackbarn?

I see it nearly every day, unlike you who live in a nice leafy area.
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 10:58 PM BST
that was typed before i read saddo's post. i'm a one fingered typer.
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 11:00 PM BST
Not sure anyone is suggesting they were "nice innocent young lads". Many on here are suggesting that they were far worse, but there is little evidence for anything so far, other than the lunatic speed of the vehicle.
Report akabula August 4, 2018 11:02 PM BST
other than the lunatic speed of the vehicle.
…… and the fact they were trying to escape the police.
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 11:02 PM BST
Kenny - Sorry I wasn't clear.  The point I was trying to make is that your post is a ludicrous generalisation that belongs in the paki-bashing past.
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 11:06 PM BST
Aka, True and I nearly added that, but it seems that the Police have limited themselves to a statement that the vehicle was being followed. Escaping the police is your term not theirs.  Seems likely mind.
Report Callisto-moon August 4, 2018 11:06 PM BST
that was going some clip, i drove like a moron as a youngster.
fear for my girls getting in cars with young men in the future.
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 11:09 PM BST
It's true, I live here, I see it every day. That's why the majority of people who can afford it, have moved to the outskirts of Bradford, and the inner City is probably 80% Asian, and 5%  the other 30 nationalities who have occupied this once wonderful City. You haven't a clue, sat there in your ivory tower.
Report Callisto-moon August 4, 2018 11:12 PM BST
we have a high asian population in high wycombe.
obviously hard to compare but mostly very decent people.
Report akabula August 4, 2018 11:14 PM BST
the Police have limited themselves to a statement that the vehicle was being followed.

That car was speeding. To be followed the police car must also have been speeding. I'm sure you'll agree with that conclusion.
So if they were speeding ad the police were behind them speeding then that normally would be reported as a 'chase'.
It follows then that they by not slowing down were trying to escape the police.
What's your problem?
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 11:15 PM BST
Not saying there aren't some nice ones, obviously there are. But they'll be different in High Wycombe, which as I remember when I went on a course there from work 40 years ago, is an affluent area. Might have changed abit.
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 11:16 PM BST
Callisto - most of them will be strewing litter and failing to mix soon enough though.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:17 PM BST
apologists like blackbarn are almost as bad as the perpetrators

ps Wonga in trouble
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 11:18 PM BST
Aka - I don't have a problem. I was merely being cautious in trying to report the facts. You appear to have seen something I have not.
Report casemoney August 4, 2018 11:19 PM BST
Promising Grand Prix Types some of these lads we seen this Highlighted with other Young Chaps they drive scooters round London

The beeb done a special on one of the chaps in an F1 simulator Apparently he was very good .. 

Chaos in the Past 24 Hours in London Police cars on roofs Delivery men blocking scooters ,Scooters Scooting around ,Robberies

Muggings By Scooters ,Murders by Scooter types  , ATTACH A FXCKIN BAZOOKA TO THE TOP OF SPECIAL RESPONSE VEHICLES 3 WARNINGS ,NO STOP, LOCK ON ,OBLITERATE   THEM .They are are danger to people going about their daily Buisness ....
Report Callisto-moon August 4, 2018 11:19 PM BST
lol kenny where did you go for the course?
its a decent area. not great ive moved away but grew up in wycombe
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 11:20 PM BST
Moisok - who am I apologising for?  I am a detached observer, commenting on what I see are the facts. You?
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:20 PM BST
the majority are no longer the concern of the elite

how has this happened they will say

just three million votes at risk and must not upset

how has this happened they will say
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:22 PM BST
black barn clings to the dizzy thoughts that we will be able to retain our liberal society and its values

how will that end up

let more in

the tory lot seem to think so

we are up to 11 million extra population

shove over black barn and make a bit more room
Report saddo August 4, 2018 11:23 PM BST
Blackbarn, how are you qualified to comment on a resident's view of Bradford if you are not familiar with the city?
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 11:24 PM BST
lol kenny where did you go for the course?
its a decent area. not great ive moved away but grew up in wycombe

Do you know CM, I can't remember which is not surprising, as when I come to think about it was nearly 50 years ago, when I was 19. Shocked  I do recall there was a nice pub round the corner though. lol
Report Callisto-moon August 4, 2018 11:25 PM BST
lol quality, what job was it?
Report akabula August 4, 2018 11:28 PM BST
moisok
apologists like blackbarn are almost as bad as the perpetrators


That's the biggest problem we face moisok. People refusing to see the issues we are facing.
BTW area with the biggest diversity in Glasgow is Govanhill.
it's been transformed from a decent part of the city to an absolute dump.
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 11:29 PM BST
Provincial Building Society which has morphed into Santander.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:30 PM BST
no you are wrong aka
go and put your brownshirt and jackboots back in the wardrobe

they are all lovely huggy people

I wonder what they would think of me in my minidress and high heels

we must celebrate diversity honey ExcitedWink
Report blackbarn August 4, 2018 11:30 PM BST
saddo - you are defending the statement - "They're not English,most of them live in litter strewn ghettos and most of them make no attempt to mix".

I actually know Bradford quite well, my aunt lived there until her demise 18 months ago.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:31 PM BST
santander are ok until spain collapses

they GIVE me money at the moment
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:32 PM BST
black barn on the retreat with plenty bullshit

I personally know bradford very well

I have been to blackpool

it must be close to there

it is ooop north from Landan

I know
Report akabula August 4, 2018 11:33 PM BST
Heres Govanhill. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9dwsH4cmYE
Report Callisto-moon August 4, 2018 11:33 PM BST
was prob in town center then kenny, the pubs there are pretty rough now
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 11:33 PM BST
blavkbarn, whereabouts in Bradford did your Aunt live. Ilkley? Wink
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:34 PM BST
much more important the duchess of xusse wessex sussex or whatever is going to reunite with her dad4
that should shut the lot of you up
Report kenny mann August 4, 2018 11:34 PM BST
I personally know bradford very well

I have been to blackpool

it must be close to there

it is ooop north from Landan

I know


pmsl
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:36 PM BST
its northern

they are savages there

especially the cat fascist

I nose

ps

mama mia at blackpool  - last night - was amazing
and I am not a big fan
Report akabula August 4, 2018 11:36 PM BST
most of them live in litter strewn ghettos and most of them make no attempt to mix

Govanhill to a T. Now you've accidentally made a good point blackbarn.
Report moisok August 4, 2018 11:37 PM BST
too many votes to lose to make a political stance
Report scaredmoney August 5, 2018 12:14 AM BST
akabula • August 4, 2018 11:33 PM BST
Heres Govanhill. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9dwsH4cmYE

No different from Manningham,Bowling...Heaton....i could go on
Report akabula August 5, 2018 12:57 AM BST
Are these all areas of diversity?
Report scaredmoney August 5, 2018 1:05 AM BST
Only of the nice cultural variety Aka

Sad
Report Reynard August 5, 2018 2:14 AM BST
I have calculated a formulae , based on widely available and undisputed national statistics relating to 'specific factors' and have calculated that as a direct result 28 young females (victims) will now reach the age of 18 without having their innocence violated . Every cloud ................
Report flushgordon1 August 5, 2018 8:46 AM BST
Is the tree ok?
Report InsiderTrader August 5, 2018 10:40 AM BST
akabula
04 Aug 18 23:33
Joined: 13 Mar 08
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Heres Govanhill.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9dwsH4cmYE

^

This is not a good advert for mass uncontrolled immigration benefiting the UK.
Report kenny mann August 5, 2018 12:41 PM BST
Good grief, 10,000 "Bradfordians" at the funeral.

That's more than Bradford City get.
Report kenny mann August 5, 2018 12:42 PM BST
BRADFORDIANS turned up in their thousands to pay their respects at a funeral for four young men who lost their lives last Thursday.

Murtza Chaudhry, 21, Arbaaz Hussain, 21 Zeeshan Khalid, 20, and Tayyab Siddique, 22, who were said to be school friends, were killed in a crash that happened at about 5:30am on August 2nd.

The grey BMW they were travelling in crashed into a tree on Bingley Road, at the junction with Toller Lane and all four men died at the scene

On Saturday afternoon, people from across Bradford, the whole of the U.K., and even from abroad came together at a funeral ceremony, on a field next to Scotchman Road in commemoration of four young men.
Report thedodgepot August 5, 2018 12:49 PM BST
Did they have to wait two weeks for a funeral like what the Christians seem to these days ?
Report posy August 5, 2018 12:56 PM BST
Really just reinforces the point that Bradford has relinquished its right to be known as an English city in favour of being an extension of the Indian subcontinent.
Report kenny mann August 5, 2018 1:00 PM BST
3 days dodgepot.
Report kenny mann August 5, 2018 1:00 PM BST
3 days dodgepot.
Report InsiderTrader August 5, 2018 1:00 PM BST
what does the Iman mean in his address:

The Imam spoke for much of the funeral, conveying messages of condolence and learning.

He said: “These are not old men that have gone, they didn’t have a heart attack, or diabetes, this wasn’t a natural death. Something happened, and it was written that they had to go.

“For the parents, how must it feel right now - how can they put their 20-year-old in the ground? These young people, they had their whole life ahead. We can see what one moment of madness can do.”

He added: “They had not lost a member of family, the whole community has - we’ve lost our brothers. This is becoming a regular occurrence, time and time again.

“The whole of Bradford has been robbed. When are we going to realise, it’s life, the way they live it, we’ll keep losing them. As a community, we should step up - the truth is, we’ve failed. This life is nothing but a playground of deception.

Open your eyes, wake up Muslims of Bradford, we can’t let this happen again.


http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/16398959.over-10000-at-toller-lan...
Report GAZO August 5, 2018 1:31 PM BST
being as no innocent victims were hurt or killed in this accident its quite a uplifting story
Report twizzle22 August 5, 2018 1:41 PM BST
flushgordon1    05 Aug 18 08:46 
Is the tree ok?

LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report saddo August 5, 2018 1:47 PM BST
The crime reports in the Telegraph and Argus will be indicative of life in modern Bradford.
Report saddo August 5, 2018 1:59 PM BST
I hope these lads don't turn out to be drug dealing criminals, or the ten thousand mourners are going to look like they support this kind of thing. Sounds like the Imam knows what's going on with the local youths.
Report xmoneyx August 6, 2018 2:21 PM BST
"some viewers may find it disturbing"
Report Dr Crippen August 6, 2018 2:29 PM BST
From IT's last.

When are we going to realise, it’s life, the way they live it, we’ll keep losing them.

The Iman is blaming Western lifestyle for their deaths.
Report Reynard August 6, 2018 3:51 PM BST
The Imam is blaming Western lifestyle for their deaths.

Other lifestyles are available ............. as are flights .
Western lifestyles do tend to be found in Western countries . How stupid does one have to be to think any different ? SillySilly
Report Lady Faye Verrit August 6, 2018 4:55 PM BST
Over 10,000 mourners, and all male!

Most househlds have three generations of women, and plus all the kids!

That is one hell of a lot of Mussies!!!
Report Lady Faye Verrit August 6, 2018 5:06 PM BST
"The Iman is blaming Western lifestyle for their deaths."

So the whole of our indigenous population of youths, are racing around in brand new high performance cars, at 5:30 in the morning?
Report alun2005 August 6, 2018 5:30 PM BST
This nonsense should be an open goal for ANY serious journalist with a scintilla of integrity or credibility, but predictably they are too terrified to ask any questions or point out the bleeding obvious.
Report Reynard August 6, 2018 7:02 PM BST
I don't remember 'Western lifestyle' being blamed for the deaths of 4 teenagers in similar circumstances just down the road in Leeds 2 months ago .
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