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tobermory
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In an interview with Fox News, Mr Trump suggested that this country of fewer than a million citizens could somehow provoke a global conflict. His reply to interviewer Tucker Carlson caused jaws to drop on the Adriatic coast.

"Let's say Montenegro, which joined last year, is attacked," Carlson told the president. "Why should my son go to Montenegro to defend it from attack?"

He was referring to Article 5 of the Nato founding treaty, which sees an attack on one member as an attack on all. Mr Trump understood his point. "They're very strong people, they're very aggressive people. They may get aggressive and, congratulations, you're in World War Three," Mr Trump extemporised.

Mr Trump's depiction of Montenegro as a nation of conflict-crazy lunatics will probably come as a surprise to the million tourists who come each year to enjoy the mountains and beaches.

"He's the strangest president in the history of the United States," Ranko Krivokapic told the BBC.

Mr Krivokapic knows a thing or two about being a president. He served as President of the Parliament of Montenegro from its independence in 2006 until 2016 - and remains president of the opposition Social Democratic Party.

It is fair to say he is unimpressed with the current US president's approach to diplomacy and world affairs.  "With this kind of president, with his knowledge of foreign policy, who knows what is going on? Foreign policy is not his big thing."

Boris Raonic, programme director at the Civic Alliance human rights organisation, was among those who could barely believe what they were hearing.

"We are used to having [a US president] who unites and promotes Western values; now, instead of a leader, we have a showman." Mr Raonic says even this would not matter so much if Mr Trump had bothered to study the countries and issues about which he was making snap pronouncements. "He is obviously not reading what the state department prepares for him, so we get these stupid statements, which clearly show a lack of knowledge and respect for role that the US had until now."
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Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 3:03 AM BST
What’s wrong now , any idea how WW2 started , study history and Trump is right
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 3:05 AM BST
* WW1,
WW2 was a different matter
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 3:08 AM BST
The Montenegroes preside over a sheethole. Bomb it.
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 3:08 AM BST
Tell the president of Montenegro to go away and read up on the history
Ok good
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 3:10 AM BST
Prefer my option, ****.
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 3:10 AM BST
Prefer my option, P U S S Y.
Report dustybin July 19, 2018 9:07 AM BST
"Why should my son go to Montenegro to defend it from attack?"

Id guess the chances of your sons going anywhere where the thing being hunted has anything like a possibility of firing back is....ooh 0%.

Even conflicts that I assume Trump holds with more regard, ones perhaps instigated by his own actions, still wouldnt be significant enough to send his kids.
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 9:10 AM BST
He was talking about any Americans son , try and keep up
Report donny osmond July 19, 2018 9:15 AM BST
did trump go fight for his country or dodge ?


putin has primed him in their 2 hour brainwashing

yes vlad, no vlad, three bags full vlad.
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 9:17 AM BST
He was right not to fight in Vietnam , it was a personal choice
Everyone has that , ok with that ?
Report dustybin July 19, 2018 9:17 AM BST
Why did he say 'my son' then?

Or was he using rhetoric to imply some sort of non existent connection between his wants and the people's?
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 9:21 AM BST
dusty you have just said that his son wouldn’t have to fight , that’s true
Now if that’s the case what do you think he meant and why would he say it
He was referring to America  , and why should America fight
Does that make sense ?, or do you think he was saying why should his son fight only
Try and think logically
Report dustybin July 19, 2018 9:35 AM BST
I think he was using his tired old tactics of disruption.
Saying there are degrees of equal, and its upto america to decide on them....and more specifically him.(who may counter his own arguments on a whim as he sees fit)

He's a money worshipping stooge from the tv generation of dimwittedness and completely out of his depth in diplomacy.
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 9:36 AM BST
ok
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 10:51 AM BST
He was taking about all the sons.



































Not.
Report Callisto-moon July 19, 2018 11:24 AM BST
hes got kids?
though he only had the adopted girl he said he fancied during the election.
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 11:25 AM BST
The Donald Junior has a lot to live up to.
Report Callisto-moon July 19, 2018 11:29 AM BST
im shocked his **** works.
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 11:32 AM BST
2¼"
Report dave1357 July 19, 2018 11:38 AM BST

Jul 19, 2018 -- 3:05AM, lfc1971 wrote:


* WW1,WW2 was a different matter


I suppose you think WW2 started when Poland became "too aggressive".

Trump is an idiot, there is as much chance of Montenegro attacking Russia as there is the Isle of Man attacking the USA.

Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 11:50 AM BST
What if Russia  attacks Montenegro ?
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 11:51 AM BST
You know , the same way they attacked Poland in WW2
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 11:52 AM BST
Away win (NAP)
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 11:57 AM BST
And they start murdering people , you know
The same way they did in WW2
Report mecca July 19, 2018 12:16 PM BST
Versailles led to ww2
Report dambuster July 19, 2018 12:17 PM BST
Trump is right, if only we had a leader as strong as him to deal with The EU and Immigration.we'd be laughing
Report donny osmond July 19, 2018 12:19 PM BST
how is trump strong he is merely a russian puppet
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:21 PM BST
agree dambuster
Report moisok July 19, 2018 12:22 PM BST
I fawt he had slanty eyes. Now we no  - or is it melania doing the steering - you sea you lot never fought of that did yer!!???

first with the news

and way a head of you shower on here
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:23 PM BST
Trump is the elected president of America , if they don’t like what he does they can elect someone else
That seems to me to be a good arrangement
Report dave1357 July 19, 2018 12:33 PM BST
they are entitled to elect an idiot, if that's the point you are making
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:36 PM BST
yes and so can you dave , as long as you understand that then all is fine
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 12:37 PM BST
lfc1971 for PM then.
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:41 PM BST
not interested it is too much trouble and too uncomfortable
And I must admit I like comfort , thanks anyway
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 12:43 PM BST
I thought the world needed strong men? Not wimps looking for comfort. Is that no longer your position?
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:46 PM BST
no idea where you got that idea from ,
You see that’s the trouble right there , too many idiots like mouse
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 12:49 PM BST
You've identified that the trouble is idiots like mouse but you'd rather just sit in your comfy chair moaning that doing f all about it?
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 12:50 PM BST
All marf and no bollox
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:50 PM BST
Yes that’s right
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:52 PM BST
I might go out for a walk later , maybe call in to the pub and watch the golf
A lot can be achieved in a walk
That ok with you mouse ?
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 12:56 PM BST
The next election ? well I won’t be standing for pm
I might not even vote , but I might
Is that ok as well
If not too bad
Report mouse muldoon July 19, 2018 12:56 PM BST
Make sure you wear comfortable shoes.
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 1:00 PM BST
Thankyou yes you see you can make some sensible suggestions
Well done , just goes to show anythings possible
Even the most unlikely
Report dustybin July 19, 2018 2:09 PM BST
Make sure you take that condescension out your shoe first lfc or you might walk with a severe limp.
And please, on your walk stay clear of short piers, cos the forum would be heartbroken Im sure.
Report lfc1971 July 19, 2018 2:35 PM BST
I am in the pub now dusty , safe and sound
sorry but I must admit how lovely  to leave the forum with such a bad impression of me : )
Report dustybin July 19, 2018 2:47 PM BST
You are in a pub and continuing on here?
Ask the landlord for the stongest brew he got and do yourself a favour.
Report pa lapsy July 19, 2018 5:55 PM BST
A fake news thread, Montenegro and Russia big buddies,place is packed full of Russians in Budva and the like having their 2 week summer jollies there, the Montegregians would be delighted to sell ya a few figs.
Report dave1357 July 19, 2018 5:59 PM BST
I'm in vienna and all the russians are here imo
Report pa lapsy July 19, 2018 6:07 PM BST
You know if they are a lot of fur shops around the place, bale out and take a 4/5 drive to Ljubljana imo,worse than the Germans on the footpaths.
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