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A man who alleged there was a paedophile ring at the heart of Westminster has been charged with perverting the course of justice.
The man, known as Nick, whose real name is being withheld for legal reasons, is also accused of fraud.
Nick's claims sparked an 18-month Scotland Yard inquiry into allegations public figures sexually assaulted children and three boys were murdered.
The inquiry was dropped and Northumbria Police was asked to investigate Nick.


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By:
Ramruma
When: 03 Jul 18 15:43
Nick is obviously a sandwich short of a toolbox. They ought to be looking at all the police who took his claims seriously.

Nothing to be said about chit-chatters who believed him.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Jul 18 16:47
https://timetostartcaring.com/here-is-a-list-of-100-paedophile-councillors-or-uk-political-party-affiliated-membersthey-are-among-the-people-who-help-run-our-country-they-are-in-no-particulour-order-this-list-does-not-contain-a/
By:
terry mccann
When: 03 Jul 18 17:50
Brave man to take on the Rich and Powerful,and now look at the result.
By:
Ramruma
When: 03 Jul 18 17:59
Injera's list is very worrying but surely some at least of those were cleared? Classic smear tactics. Try it with other crimes. Those people over there are convicted moped muggers so these other people over here must be as well. Is that how it works?

None of this is evidence that Nick's allegations of rape and murder against ministers and the prime minister were true. If they are charging Nick then finally the police have caught up. It is the Met and other forces who announced guilt who should be in the dock alongside Nick, who really seems a bit of a pathetic figure. It is not his fault the police took him seriously without applying even a modicum of common sense -- murders without bodies or even missing person reports: pull the other one. The Prime Minister who is guarded 24x7 sneaking off to boys' homes: in disguise was he?

Meanwhile the children who are being raped right now by various gangs up and down the country can whistle for help.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Jul 18 18:07
Name the one who were cleared?
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Jul 18 18:19
Did you read your own list ?

I only skimmed it but Harvey Proctor was cleared for a start.

'Nick' was obviously a fantasize from 3 minutes listening to him. The Police who took him seriously should be sacked.
By:
Injera
When: 03 Jul 18 18:31
Not 'my' list. Of course some were cleared. Nature of sexual offences that failure to consent is v hard to prove.

How many of the 100 were cleared?

Why do these people put themselves in a position to be even questioned by the Filth???
By:
tobermory
When: 03 Jul 18 18:37
If someone accuses you of a sex offence 10 years before how do you avoid being in that position ?
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 03 Jul 18 19:55
A LIST OF CHILD SEX OFFENDERS INSIDE THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT including people who were cleared. Dear me. I'd get that nonsense deleted ASAP.
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 02:12
I'm sure John Wedger could add even more names to the list if he'd been allowed to continue his investigations .
'Nick' would not be the first whistleblower to face a lengthy jail term . Melanie Shaw is a classic example .
Undoubtedly a total media blackout will be ordered in relation to this case and then all we will have will be rumour and conjection which will probably be closer to the truth than anything that is revealed through the government controlled media at a later date .
By:
jamesdean
When: 04 Jul 18 13:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLeEiSRsNkQ

John Wedger interview. Maybe watch that then decide if "nick" was a liar
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 13:42
jamesdean :
John Wedger highlights just the tip of the iceberg . If you have the time to dig a little deeper you'll find a cesspit of cover-ups involving high ranking figures in the political establishment stretching back 50 years .
I suggest you check out Andrew Norfolk 'An Uncomfortable Truth' .
By:
jamesdean
When: 04 Jul 18 13:55
I will do that, reynard.


Seemingly the Jill Dando one is quite interesting as well. Kill jill it's called on youtube, 4 parter.
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 14:04
The Jill Dando assassination (Kill Jill) has nothing whatsoever to do with paedophilia , although this has been used as a red herring to divert attention . There would appear to be a possible connection with british security services but what is more alarming is the MI5 connection to the London nail bomber David Copeland highlighted in the documentary , which may or may not be connected with Jill Dando's murder .
By:
jamesdean
When: 04 Jul 18 14:20
Ahh

I thought she was going to reveal stuff and was taken out. I've not seen it yet though so will leave comment til watched it.
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 14:52
There is a suggestion that she was in possession of very sensitive , maybe even incriminating , information that specific individuals did not want revealed but it is pure speculation . However , there is compelling evidence to suggest that this may be the case . Either way it does paint a very disturbing picture of the British security services .

Following the recent 'spy poisoning' case in Salisbury it was revealed that Novichok was the specific nerve agent used and that this indicated that the "Russians did it" . Who revealed this information ? The government controlled media . Oh well it MUST be true cos it was on the BBC ! Case closed !
Very few people stop to think the following :-
If the Russians wanted him dead why didn't they do it while he was incarcerated back home in Russia ?
If the Russians did it why did they use a Russian nerve agent produced nearly 2000 miles away in Moscow ? (The ultimate "smoking gun")
If the Russians did it why didn't they simply execute him with a single bullet and make a good job of it ?

Let's face facts , if Novichok WAS the nerve agent involved Skripal and his daughter WOULD NOT have survived .
The probable nerve agent used is between 10-20% of the lethal capacity of Novichok .
Novichok is produced 2000 miles away in Moscow , weaker nerve agents are produced at Porton Down ONLY 10 miles from Salisbury .

Motive ?
Well it wouldn't be the first time that a government tried to deflect attention away from other issues . Maybe , with Brexit on the horizon it wouldn't be a bad idea to make the British people feel that they needed the comforting arms of our European neighbours rather than be cast adrift and left to fend for ourselves . Either way it is highly probable that the Russian's didn't do it ...... WE DID IT !!!
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:05
^ Laugh amazing the rubbish some people believe
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:06
what it has to do with brexit I do not know
By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Jul 18 16:12
^ Reynard

Nonsense !

Putin's Criminal Gang have no restraint....UK has to act within the law.

They were sending a message to all Russians who may have been thinking of going against them.
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:14
no, no leopard . Britain poisoned the skirpals to warn us not to vote brexit!
By:
The Leopard
When: 04 Jul 18 16:17
Any Brit acting illegally can later be taken to court and jailed....in the Internet Age...all secrets are revealed eventually.

lfc......Russia acted with Farage and Cambridge Analytica to swing the Brexit vote.
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:19
really? I didn't notice them on the BBC
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 16:21
I said 'maybe' but it was very unlikely carried out by the Russian State
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:22
I noticed that Reynard, you also said some nonsense about it being linked to brexit
so anything else you said can be safely disregarded
By:
Injera
When: 04 Jul 18 16:30
Scepticism is the best way to treat offcial news these days. I'm with Reynard, Salisbury was most probably diversionary. The whole thing was very, very odd. Still Porton Down quickly got another £48m of public money so they did well.

I see the lists I posted have gone. Notice how I made no comment on specific cases. I just posted a list of those questioned + cleared and those prosecuted. Nothing I put up is not in the public domain.

Dozens of MPS, councillors and advisors have been accused with many convicted of sexual offences often involving children. Is there a paedo ring? No idea but with the cover ups in a number of UK institutions regarding these crimes it wouldn't be a shock.

Those institions where cover ups have gone on for years:

BBC (Savile et al)
NHS (Savile et al)
Childrens' Homes. See Jersey for example.
Councils/Child Services/Govt (Grooming gangs)
Catholic Church
Protestant Church
Save the Children
Oxfam
Any others??
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:34
What injera doesn't seem to understand is that you cannot make terrible and false accusations against individuals as this character seems to have done, or might have done

the British courts will decide, and if he is guilty he should serve many years in prison
By:
Injera
When: 04 Jul 18 16:38
I haven't commented on him lfc. I've merely pointed out that there's a staggeringly high number of MPs and their cohorts who are now on the sexual offenders register.

Regarding 'Nick's claim of a ring, I said 'ive no idea'.
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 16:39
lfc1971
I put that up as an example of a motive . Why are you so certain that it was carried out by a foreign state ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:39
you see scepticism is very important, and it is important to be sceptical of people
and what they might say
now read the rubbish just there by Reynard, or course it suits some people like injera to not look to sceptically at that
that's not a good policy
By:
Injera
When: 04 Jul 18 16:40
Shamefully I forgot to mention a certain other institution..

The P O L I C E
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:41
Reynard I haven't made any comment on that, I only said that your comments didn't make sense, to me
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:41
Now if they did that would be ok, they dont
By:
Injera
When: 04 Jul 18 16:42
lfc - you don't think it was odd that UK Govt blamed Russia immediately and within 2 weeks gave Porton Down £48m?

Anyway, that's off topic.
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:47
Injera the government had no need to try and murder the skirpils in order to finance porton down

I am sorry I don't see any connection, you may do
that says quite a lot right there imo
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 16:48
I said 'maybe this Brexit stuff was a motive , one among many (I used this example because one or two other motives make far more uncomfortable reading , poor choice I agree and not one I neccessarily support)
I'm sure you're aware that it is not easy to get your point across by messaging as opposed to face to face discussion .
My point was that the government were too quick to point the finger and the facts actually point to the perpertrators being much closer to home .
Again , I respect your views on my earlier post but you only seem critical of the final , poorly constructed paragraph . Does this mean you possibly concur with my earlier ramblings ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:52
no I don't agree with any of it, I would be inclined to think it was Russia , either directly or indirectly perhaps some nerve agent is in the hands of groups acting for putin or others
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 16:54
Fair enough , I respect your opinion .
On what did you base that opinion , out of interest ?
By:
lfc1971
When: 04 Jul 18 16:54
I see no reason to think it was British agents acting on behalf of the government as a warning to the british people not to pursue hopes of brexit, sorry
By:
Reynard
When: 04 Jul 18 16:55
Forget Brexit ! I said I used that as an example of a 'possible' political motive .
On what is your 'opinion' based , please ?
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