Roger Waters

It's the top up the pension fund tour as i like to call these things

Major fan of Waters in the old days.  The Final Cut is where it should have ended.  One of the best albums of all time.  Not Now John!

Fcuk all that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=lNko2TmzrJw

LOL great post, beginning, middle, end, subverts the expectation with a punchline.
9/10.
I can't believe the prices they charge for tickets and merch these days. It's well above inflation.
I think it's because of mp3s/yt etc they don't make nearly so much on actual "records" so they try to get it back touring,but he's not a trying to make it band, he's no doubt a multi millionaire.

And a total ****ing hypocrite.

I like Pink Floyd (used to listen to them a lot) but I'm sick to death of hearing about Trump and Brexit and a concert going on about him is hardly edgy politics and ground breaking ...

Have just finished echoes cd been listening to this week

When you're one of the many ..
To make a bad bet.
What do you do to make ends meet?

Make em laugh
Make em cry
Make em lay the draw and sigh..

:)

Only seen Floyd once - Wembley Stadium 1988 - Momentary Lapse In Reason, I think the tour was.  Effing braw but I missed not seeing Wayers.  Used ti idolise him.  Now I think he's a complete prick up his own arse.

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Seen Pink Floyd 3 times but all without Waters. Finally got to see him when I won tickets to see him perform Dark Side of the Moon at Manchester's MEN Arena. I won the tickets on Virgin Radio but they couldn't get me into Earls Court so had to travel. It was worth it though; great seats and a great show.

Have to agree with Trilby here; definitely up his own arse.

Remember seeing him at Glastonbury 2002 and my abiding memory was of him being firmly rooted up his own backside.


Much more a Floyd fan now than though and would have happily gone to see him if it wasn't so exorbitant.

Wonder whether we'll see the Waters colours on the racecourse again (purple, green stars). He bred all those decent horses out of Lemon's Mill, such as Lemony Bay, but now she's too old to produce any more foals, the colours seem to have disappeared.

He nearly always used to turn up to watch them running. You'd be at some gaff track like Plumpton or Towcester on a miserable Monday afternoon in the depths of winter, and there he'd be in the paddock beforehand, clothed in a gigantic overcoat, alongside whoever was the current Mrs Waters (or sometimes alongside the current Mrs Somebody Else, which kept on causing complications). And he'd always be relaxed, smiling and politely passing the time with anyone who said hello.

Yet put him in a band with three other musicians and you've got a miserable, argumentative sod who could fall out with the Dalai Lama.

he never knew he wasn’t very talented and was lucky to be in the band ,
or perhaps he did know

Devised and wrote pretty much all of The Wall.





But not very talented.

very much overrated album ,
No I meant musically , I don’t know what devised means I go by the music
Don’t think he wrote any of that

Yes he did. Do try to check.

I don't think it's a matter of talent, so much as inspiration, and making the most of what you have got.

Think of his bass line on One Of These Days, off Meddle. It's basically just one note fed into a synth, and he'd clearly came up with it through having grown up with the Dr Who theme tune in his head. And then, four or five years later, he used it yet again on Sheep, off the Animals LP.

Put that way, the man's an over-rated charlatan. But the musical end-product is devastating. I don't know how it sounds now, but when I first heard Sheep, over 40 years ago, it was mesmerizing.

I think he's up there as a songwriter. Has that thing that bassists have where they get a good feel of how chords should build on one another and putting an interesting melody over the top. Not uniquely a bassist thing but if they know their arpeggios and a good bit of theory they can steer clear of the i-vi-ii-v fluff that dominates everything.

Don't think he was a particularly amazing bassist. Partly through design. He left lots of gaps and played generally root notes which isn't the most interesting but at the same time that's a sign of some generosity in his idea of serving the song overall rather than going all Jaco Pastorius over everything.

Same with Gilmour too really. I don't think he's that much of a guitarist. I was on Oxford Road a couple of days ago and a lad was plugged in doing the Comfortably Numb solo. Thing is, if you get the sound right, can sustain and do full step bends then his solos are generally just noodles in pentatonics. A case of style over substance, but he had great style and a sense of musicality in his solos rather than just showing off. Again, all about the song rather than exercises in displaying musicianship.

just listened to one of these days again
good spot sfbtw regarding dr who : )

pineapple he doesn’t write songs he writes lyrics, he’s not particularly musical
not remotely in the way Gilmour or Wright is

Gilmour is s brilliant guitarist and musician

I remember when Arnold Layne was first released. Radio Luxembourg plugged it to death and held write in competitions about it (no internet or smart phones in those days) See Emily Play was a much better record. Radio Luxembourg also broke a group called Davy Jones and the Lower Third-record was Can't help thinking about me, which I thought was a great tune. Davy Jones changed his name to avoid confusion with Davy Jones of the Monkees. You guessed it-he changed it to David Bowie!

I don't know how it sounds now, but when I first heard Sheep, over 40 years ago, it was mesmerizing.

One of my favourite PF tracks, second only to Comfortably Numb

Good grief.

Add Pink Floyd to the huge list of things lfc knows very little about.

nonsense pineapple , there is a huge list of things that I know very little about

Rock music is not on that list thankyou

Always remember that an expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less!

yes that’s why we had punk rock as well

Too many bloody concept albums devised by the likes of Roger Waters

punk rock was a rebellion against authority and mellow music and disco. If you could play 3 chords on a guitar you were in business. All the Ramones records were the same tunes with different lyrics. Same for the Sex Pistols. Some Punk was not bad- Buzzcocks, Adverts, Rezillos, Vapors. But X Ray Spex was pure excrement. Each to their own I suppose!

The worst concept albums were by the pretentious Moody Blues. Talk about the Emperor's new clothes!

The Sex Pisyols  were the last great rock group imo

Generation X/ Billy Idol, Rebel Yell better than anything the Pistols did.

I’ve heard everything now : )

You can't have heard everything-there is limitless music available!!!

not even pineapple could believe that and that’s saying something

Still think the best punk song was the first.

As for the Pistols, I think Pretty Vacant is a really good song but the rest not so much. Probably one where you had to be there I suppose and I was too young. Think his stuff with PIL was much more interesting.

give us a clue pp what record

* first punk song ?

New Rose

The Ramones first album predates New Rose buy about 7 months. A couple of singles off it such as Blitzkrieg Bop were earlier.

just listened to it, it is what it is

Yes punk started in America

every new art form of the 20c started in America

Accept that slicer.


Personally, I treat US and UK punk as pretty separate things. Just felt two completely types of music when placed side by side. Almost like they were on to post-punk with the likes of Patti Smith, Suicide and Television by the time we were getting started.

Because the night... great track, not really punk though. Springsteen influence

He wrote it didn't he?

co-wrote it... having a blast now

Patti Smith's most punk record is Horses. Because the night is more melodic as you so rightly indicate.

Just read he didn't finish it and gave it to her. Didn't know that.

me either... good fact

I enjoy discussion of this nature. But its time for a bit of tiffin before the horse racing and footie start. Good luck all.

Musical interlude from the much missed Billy Mckenzie, the attractive blond in the video went on to be
one of the Martha and the Muffins, she is now a Professor!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZSMDaewz2A